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    4870's IN MARCH

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by fskdc, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. Koshinn

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    Not in a M17, it'd overheat and explode.

    also afaik, nvidia sli cards are two identical cards while ati xfire use a master/slave card.
     
  2. The_Moo™

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    might have some driver issues but hey make a plug i think anything is actually possible would be posible though prolly have to redesign output and re wire the connectors ...DO IT !!!!!! LOL
     
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    can you fit 9800gtx in the m17 i dun think you can cuz the 2 diff slots but i figure i ask since yall are smarter
     
  4. E-wrecked

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    I believe you can fit one in there..there is a slot that accepts it. The other slot won't. Just need a SLIFire cable :p
     
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    what i thought.....random idea i think raphics card should go external . would save battery life and you could change easy upgrade etc. design a bus with a huge bandwith so newer cards would work and do it no more argueing ......wish i had a billion to spend on that
     
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  7. The_Moo™

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    they stole my idea i just had!
     
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    I know..they're lame with that idea though. Been about 8 months since I first heard of it. They still haven't done anything with it. I think there was a MSI rig they were supposed to first release it with, but still haven't seen sheit. Go figure. Good thing tho, they still wouldn't have drivers for it anyhow. :p
     
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    lol we will get you to mod them anyway to make them work good .....o well a promiseing idea patented and now no one else can actally get it done
     
  10. ECyde

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    Doesn't intels new hydra technology allow amd and nvidia to intermingle?

    Anyway on to my point. So does this all mean I should cancel my OCZ, which is probably half a week from being shipped? I haven't seen anything definitive either way. But an OCZ with 3870s for the next 2 - 5 years isn't quite what I was planning on getting myself into.
     
  11. Red_Dragon

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    i like this notebook but everytime i look at that Asus W90 with 4870 crossfire i keep going that way :D
     
  12. Phinagle

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    Likely not. SLI only works with identical cards while HybridSLI only works as a dedicated+integrated combo...and currently no model over a 9500m gets any performance increase from GeForce Boost.


    What will likely work on a M17/Whitebook though, even if the 4000 series is MXM-IV, is CrossfireX running a 4870 in the MXM-IV slot and a 3870 in the slave MXM-III slot.
     
  14. Sharpe62

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    meh if thats the case its better then no upgrade at all i guess
     
  15. Hamish33

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    especially as it appears one of the 4870's will be faster in single config than the 3870's in xfirex...I'm not so sure putting a 4870 in xfire with a 3870 will offer any real gains...
    I still have fingers crossed that I'll be able to upgrade to the 4870's when they're released...
     
  16. julian-nold

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    I hope this too ... otherwise upgrading from 2x3870 to 1x4870 would make no sence^^ :eek:

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  17. Phinagle

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    I think one 4870 would be better then both 3870's it would be worth the upgrade
     
  19. Red_Dragon

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    hmmmm i could see a single 4870 maybe getting about 13,000 3dmark that may be optimistic though. :D
     
  20. zerosource

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    You are crazy.
     
  21. zerosource

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    Me too! :cool:
     
  22. TurbodTalon

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    The people that have been b*tching about how big the M17 is are really gonna have a cow with the 18.4 inch W90.
     
  23. Phinagle

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    Third thread Ive posted this in:

    The W90 is approx 2" wider x 1 1/4" deeper x 3/4" thicker x 2lbs heavier than the M17/Whitebook.
     
  24. fusionsenses

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    seriously, I would love a 18.4 laptop.
    I had the 18.4 inch sony, it was great in terms of screen usability.
     
  25. Phinagle

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    I can't help feeling that ASUS is going to stumble and fall short on the W90 which is why I'll hope the M17/Whitebook will support dual 4870s.
     
  26. HoosierInFL

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    I had the 18.4" Sony as well. It was just too big. Amazing screen, but disappointing performance.
     
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    umm i got the info straight from ocz directly and im sure they get their info straight from arima..they have specifically said even here on the forum around march for the 48 series cards.. plasma no offense but dont post stuff if you are not informed..
     
  30. dondadah88

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    Yes i dont want my hair be ripped out. because the 48??? cannot fit.
     
  31. zfactor

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    ^^^ have you seen ryder's posts as well as rob from rk and mine. as far as ocz is stating they will be compatible
     
  32. dondadah88

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    I know i have been doing my research. Lol. but when ever someone says oh no they wont fit i get worried. Lol. but i'm looking up benchmarks for the ocz 3870x2 cause the ones that i seen for the 4870 where done right. and i'm not worried bout the 4870 now (maybe during the summer i'll change them )but i dont want the notebook to be at a stand still(if you know what i mean)
     
  33. The_Moo™

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    wonder how many arms and legs its gonna cost to get AW to upgrade them .....
     
  34. dondadah88

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    2 arms, 1 leg. and your 1st born should do it.

    but you would just do it yourself. it doesnt seem hard to remove the gpu's.
     
  35. The_Moo™

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    yea ... still like warrenty on a 2300 machine i can fix every thing cept a mobo meltdown lol i guess ill hav to weight my options when they come out
     
  36. Johnksss

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    nah...from what i hear...you move across the street your warranty is voided.
    now what kind of nonsense is that? so i would advise making sure you notify them first. lol
     
  37. Shznittle

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    yea after taking the heatsinks off and getting a better look at the cpu and gpus. the crossfirex cable is easy to take off and the cards look like it would be easy enough to take out and replace with, possibly in the future, 4870s. then of course reapplying Arctic Silver 5 shouldn't be a problem. the only other thing i can think of is having to purchase some high quality thermal pads for the other chips on the gpus. looks like the 4870s have twice as much of those chips compared to the 3870s.
     
  38. julian-nold

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    I found something :) (hope nobody posted it already^^)

    [​IMG]

    Greetings
    Julian

    Edit: how sure are you, that one 4870 will be faster than 2x3870 CrossfireX
     
  39. Johnksss

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    and what people failed to see is that is a desktop sheet and not a laptop sheet.... :)
     
  40. Phinagle

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    Sure it's not mobility cards each tested on a desktop reference board?
     
  41. dondadah88

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    Yep a quad core on top of that. plus they didnt even give us fps. just 1,2. What is that. the 3870 score 5 fps so the 4870 is suppose to be 10
     
  42. Johnksss

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    yeah...huh...LMAO!

    well the 4870s have been out, but what people here in notebookreview are interested in is notebook gpus. or they should be interested in them. specs from desktop to mobile to relate well.
     
  43. Phinagle

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    It's a comparison of mobile 3870s vs. mobile 4870s on the same reference board. As long as the reference board specs don't change it doesn't matter that it's for a desktop or notebook.
     
  44. Johnksss

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    [​IMG]
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    like to see them put that into a laptop then.

    and as of right now...only one of them cards looks like it will fit. and that card is a 3870 if im not mistaken. but that's up for debate.
     
  45. dondadah88

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    Ask Clevo. Lol.
     
  46. Johnksss

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    this is the last of that line or so clevo says...lol
     
  47. Phinagle

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    They could have tested it in an OCZ Whitebook and it wouldn't make a difference for the purposes of the comparison.

    That chart isn't about how many FPS the 4870 gets in a specific game but it's relative performance compared to the 3870 given all other specs and variables are equal.

    So yeah it only proves that if a 3870 got 5 FPS in Crysis then the 4870 will get like 8ish in the same system.
     
  48. dondadah88

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    Oh yeah i cant wait to spend xxxxx amount more for the 4870 for not even 5 but 3 more fps.


    Calm down we know what it means. We are pulling there legs cause we want more information. and the main question is is it mxm3 ir 4 thats it. But if ati makes this mistyake and dont use mxm3 and use 4 or what it will lose soooooooo mush respect that they got in like 2-3 months for mobile.

    we should know how much performance it should give seeing that ati keeps the same specs in there desktop but just lower the clocks alot. Not like Nvidia having random specs for their desktop and mobile cards. but thats a different discussion.
     
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    think you better go read up on it. and that is a gddr5 board running on a desktop computer and not a laptop. so no! it's not the same.
    that's like me putting my 9800m gtx in a real desktop computer and running test. i'll get way better numbers than the 16k i get now.

    which also means that chip wont be "cheap" (speculation of course) so for all the people complaining about spending money..the 4870 with gddr5 memory "wont" be the card for them. and that card more than likely wont be out for another 5 months unforunately...they will probably release the 4850's first in march. (more speculation of course)

    http://game.amd.com/us-en/unlock_4800mob.aspx


    not that close dondadah88

    look at the 3870m vs the 3870 desktop.
    and look at every last 3870m owner looking for an upgrade to the 4870....
    3800m's only barely came out and 10 days later everyone was looking for an upgrade... if i had one..i to would be " looking for an upgrade"
     
  50. Phinagle

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    It's a gddr5 board running on a desktop computer vs. a gddr3 board running on the exact same desktop computer.

    It's like you taking the 9800GTX out of your NP9262 and replacing them with 9600GT and running tests.
     
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