4870's confirmed and ddr5

thanks to faisalhero. these are older i hope he updates them soon
big note. this is with my t9400. nothing is overclocked.
dmc4
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mines
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farcry2
his
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mines
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crysis warhead
his
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mines
???? i didnt save it. lol. but i average 17. crossfire doesnt work well. in that game.

and also notice his res was at 1680*1050 and mines was at 1920*1200. so i would get alittle more.(not to much from it.)

 

Don you do realize he's not taking shots at you as a whitebook owner....

 

Yeah, I appreciate beast benchies as much as the next, but I try to temper that with real world, everyday clocks that are stable with decent temps.

I don't see see that config being an everyday config, just like the 4ghz 20k 3DM06 score for the W90Vp.

The GT725 is a sweet machine, though, with a very light form factor (~7lbs) and decent price ($1349).

And hey, Don worked hard for that Whitebook! He was waiting forever to get it all together. He will protect his turf even from indirect attacks!

 

no i know that. i'm not mad. i was just pointing out that the asus isnt really doing to great until they fix there systems, and until ati fixes these drivers. and the price/performance ratio is favored for the m17/whitebook. and the m17/whitebook is doing great for older cards.

Lol at electrosoft. you remember when i was trying to save up and get this?

 

Crossfire 3870s should beat a single 4850. My problem is that Crossfire 4870s aren't beating a single 4850 by a lot more.


I'm also a fan of the Whitebook/M17 and will purchase one after they get 4870s with GDDR5 (or even 4860s).

 

Well actually as it stands that's true, I was wrong about Asus owning the price/performance completely, the Whitebook is nearly neck and neck with it's more developed 3870 drivers. Also Don it's good to hear for that hard work you invested in a Whitebook to begin with, it has a bright future ahead for it

 

@ phinagle. Oh ok then i guess your cool then. Lol. but if you compare specs the 4850 single should shoot down 3870CF. but it doesnt.

thanks nobodieshero

 

If you wanted my guess I would say about 20-30% increase of performance for the GDDR5 version, thats about what we have seen for previous cards. Still once your card gets so fast (esp crossfirex) your more likely to not extract all of that power via cpu bottleneck.

the 4870's are already bottlenecked in 3dmark06 even for the GDDR3 version in the Asus, my dual 4850s on my desktop are bottlenecked in 3dmark06 with my q6600 @ 3.6ghz.

Games though do not play out the same way, so thats why you cant let 3dmark06 mean everything to you, Vantage is starting to be more appropriate for high end systems as 3dmark06 is starting to become a cpu benchmark more than a gpu one just like all 3d benchmarks do when they start becoming too easy to run for new hardware.

 

well i cant run vantage i get an error so i cant get even help you out there.

 

the Asus is saposed to be alottttttt better now with the new shipment of bios i haven't heard any problem since then

thats because the 4870's ur talking about are really 4850's with a slight overclock

 

That's my line! ;þ

 

Hey Electrosoft, im selling my m17, im not sure how to pm though. Send me an email at [email protected], or anyone else that is interested for that matter. Just recently lost my job, need money.

 

you cannot PM until you get 15 post and you can post it here and get alot more responses

http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18

might wanna fix your email so you don't get it picked up by a bot

 

Thanks for the info, it wont even let me start a new thread on the page you gave me. I guess I need 15 posts to start new threads???

 

im not sure about the market place. i will go read the rules usually you do not need alot of post but die to it being the market place they may have put a limit on the post to keep spammers out.

only thing i can say is go find some topics and put in your 2c


read here !!!!

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=243273 lol

 

I sent an email earlier today (4pm EST) asking for a description, pics, and a pic of the invoice.

No response so far.

 

I guess the M15X was not a AW product then.

Out of curiosity, has there been any future confirmation of the GDDR5 4870s outside of AW sales personnel? I'm just somewhat wary of claims by AW staff.

 

i think that flextronics will try there best to make the 4870 stay with gddr5.

 

No offical word but they would loose major major money if they did not make the 4870's avaliable for this system. Its pretty new not even a year old and its still in the top 5 laptops, it could be number 1 with that part .....

 

Any idea what will it cost us to upgrade
to dual 4870 cards with shipping & everything
under $700 ( just a idea if anyone knows)


also how many days will it take Alienware to send it back

& do we need to clean it to factory settings before sending
or just make a back up of our files ?

after they install cards
will it be like new or like the way we send it ?
with all our software already there that we had before

thxs

 

have you ever sent your alienware in to fix something. i think it would be best to ask someone from the 15x how had to replace something.

 

I don't believe anyone can give you an honest answer for that yet. Especially considering that nothing has been officially released about the M17 even receiving dual 4870 cards.

 

funny how people always think we know everything here.

 

yea, were just professional guesser

 

thank you so much all

 

No, the title of this thread is hugely misleading, as 'confirmation' means one thing, and a vague e-mail from a rep means another.

There is no confirmation of 4870s yet, GDDR5 or otherwise. If I had to make a guess I would say it will not happen. Definitely not 4870 CF anyway, the cooling system in the M17 could not handle it. That is just a guess, but it is no more/less accurate than anything else in this thread.

 

flex is working on the cooling system we haver heard that from old OCZ Whitebook sellers

 

If you want my opinion it's not that I dont think that the Whitebook/M17 will be able to get a 4870 upgrade it's that I think it's going to require more than just a card and heatsink swap.

I could imagine part of the inside chassis having to be replaced to make room for a larger fan....which would make an upgrade costly and not a do-it-yourself job for most current owners.

 

ummm not really. i do think that they need a new heatsink and fan. but the cooling should be good. asus tool the safe route by making to different fans.

 

yeah i also think the cooling system in the m17 is fine for 4870's....what im more worried about is the power requirement....with my quad...my notebook doesnt feed suffiecient power to the cpu and gpus under full load....so how will it to the 4870's? we need a new bios thats all

 

How did you realice this?

Greetings
Julian

 

It has enough power. Under load, the power consumption for the M17 reads around 180w of power with a QX9300. Although it uses a 220/230w power supply, the power supply actually draws 300w from the outlet with a 73-75% efficiency, meaning 220/230watts is available. Multiply that 180w figure by .73 or .75 and that would be the actual amount, or roughly the actual amount it consumes.

They'll definitely be more space for the 4870 cards if available for this system, but because the current cards in the M17 consume less power and thus, produce less heat, it seems that cooling it would be a bigger issue. To be honest, the conservative design for each of the current GPU heatsinks won't do it. The heatsinks would need more conductive real estate like the M15x or the Asus W90's design, where it's covering a good portion of the actual card.

 

i know the PSU can handle it..what im saying is power distribution in the motherboard is not correct....crossfire often drops to single gpu when cpu is under high load....some people with quads report the same issue.....us qx9300 owners need a new bios

 

hmm, I see what you mean. Isn't there a newer BIOS (OCZ BIOS) that solves this? I have the latest one and I don't really experience any stuttering (caused by drops) or such.

Edit: Latest one is .028 I think

 

well that not a problem for them. it will cost more but people will but them. ichime do you get stutters in games. I get them I am going to reformat and see what happens.

 

the latest is still .28 right? yeah its still there..but its very very rare to happen...but apprent in benchmarks.....3dmark06 drops alot....i score 14k....then 16k...then 15k.....very unstable....however in all games it performs mostly perfect...they just need to add a little juice...hopefully .29 comes out soon

 

Also, did you install the .28 bios before getting your QX9300? If not, then you may have to reinstall it with the QX9300 in your system, or else the quad core patch won't be applied to your system.

 

yep did that

 

Yes you'r right Halo.. same problem here.. really hope they fix new bios soon.

 

this is from a member that emailed AW so lets just be pateint

 

they hit us with that too when they were discussing he 8800m compatibility with the m9750... and it turned out it wouldn't work, though they planned on releasing it for the notebook. they gathered some money in sales due to the notion of the 8800m in the m9750.

i'm more positive they will come out with the 4870, but alienware has been known to let down their consumers in the notebook market over the last year. waiting might not be worth it.

 

Ya know,

I've got to believe that it's not that easy for them to get separate graphics cards. I mean, they must be making money on them right? I seriously doubt they are selling them at cost. When I got a second 7950GTX for my M9750, It cost me $477 for the thing plus another $20 bucks or so for the SLI cable.

One would think they would be happy to sell cards. Look how much they could have made in the last several months if they had been selling 3870's to the folks with M9750's. Buy at your own risk...whatever.

 

ripoff of the century.

 

they just build up anticipation to the point where people crack and spend loads of money. if you've been waiting over a year for the upgrade, most people are going to spend the upper limit of their "budget" for the upgrade, which is what Alienware will provide you.

 

But I thought they were my friends.

 

there are even more ripoffs, eurocom still sells a 7950GTX for $610
4870 won't be cheap stuff.

 

the newest and best are not always cheap lol

 

is there an eta for the 4870 at AW?

 

*sigh* please read the page before

 

If youre worried about how expensive they are going to be, then you shouldnt be worried about when theyre coming out...