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    9800m GTX ETA 31st July

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Kissarmy, May 25, 2008.

  1. Kissarmy

    Kissarmy Notebook Consultant

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    Accordint to this configurator for PCMicroworks rebadged Clevo 860 the eta for the 9800m GTX with 1Gb is 31st July. Any roumors about this for the M15x or m17x?

    http://www.pcmicroworks.com/edge.htm
     
  2. bebarhood

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    I hope at least by next year because I placed an order for the m17x and I really don't want the new CPU and GPU to come out now because that would make me extremely pissed off
     
  3. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Thats the Clevo M860TU... shipping out next month.

    This notebook, if you guys look at it, will be the fastest 15.4" notebook in the world.

    Clevo seems to have a need to have the most powerful notebooks.

    .... and they are not exclusive to only one vendor... making them very price competitive.

    Look at the starting config for $1899:
    Screen: 15.4" WSXGA+ 1680x1050 [+100 for WUXGA 1920x1200]
    CPU: Intel® Core™2 Duo P9500 (2.6Ghz/45nm/6MB) [+880 Core 2 Extreme Quad Core QX9300 (2.53GHz/1066MHz/12MB) ETA 7/31]
    RAM: 2048MB DDR3 1333MHz
    Videocard: 8800M GTX 512MB [+155 for 9800M GTX 1024MB]
    HDD: 160GB @ 7,200RPM SATA300
    Optical Drive: 8X High Speed DVD-RW / CD-RW DL Burner
    Others:
    - 802.11AGN 300mbps
    - HDMI and e-SATA
    - etc

    Thats just awesome. :)
     
  4. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    how much better is 9800m GTX 1GB compared to 8800m GTX 512MB, it cant be that much if its only an extra $155
     
  5. Eltocliousus

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    Looks like laptops will be rivaling the best of desktops soon :p
    What boggles me is the best desktop graphics card out is 768mb, laptops have overstepped them?

    ( not considering the 9800gx2 as that is two graphics cards in one )
    Unless the 9800M GTX is two in one.
     
  6. Eltocliousus

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    To ArmageddonAsh

    I'm guessing its just like the desktop one, but in laptop terms probably around
    two 8700's or 8800's in one. My guess.
     
  7. the.s.a.i.n.t

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    the 9800M GTX is said to be 10% faster and produce less heat. The doubled memory is important at very high resolutions which aren't very important to most notebook-gamers.
     
  8. nbaumann

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    Anyone want to buy my m15x?
     
  9. newfiejudd

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    Nope Aroudn Mid June Nvidia will be releasing the GTX 280 and GTX 260. These GPU will be about 50% faster then the 8800 GTX in desktops. Considering the new 9800 GTX is barely and upgrade to the 8800 GTX. Many people are hoping this will be the next big leap fro Nvidia. Kind of liek when the 8800 GTX was released. So Notebooks are gettig closer but they will loose out again with the release of the 280-260 cards. But I am going with 2 280's in SLI on my desktop..
     
  10. Eltocliousus

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    I'll buy it. No seriously, as long as its not broken in anyway shape or form i will pay around 1,500 pounds. :p thats 3,000 dollars.
     
  11. Eltocliousus

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    I think two of them will be overkill unless your looking for future proof spec's.
     
  12. nbaumann

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    Didn't you order one already?
     
  13. Eltocliousus

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    I can cancel, i'd rather not risk a Lemon :p They didn't actually bill me yet though.
    Was hoping for a 2.5ghz processor with the 6mb cache though.
     
  14. groove75

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    Your warranty is null and void if you don't buy it from AW. Be patient and wait for your order.
     
  15. nbaumann

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    Yeah, besides I still need it for the next 3 months but this laptop sure does look interesting.
     
  16. GRB

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    10%? worthless ;)
     
  17. EBE-1

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    at PCMW they are already taking preorder for centrino2 and 9800mGTX, and they claim production start anytime after June 1st, it will come sooner then you guys think........and who cares is only 10% faster ;p faster is faster thats it ;P and i dont think AW will do anything to top that except they will be releasing the black and skullcap...........personaly, i think AW is falling behind
     
  18. exiled

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    actually they were at the top for a couple months so it isnt surprising that clevo takes the lead eventually. once aw comes out with a new laptop, they will take the lead again and then clevo and the cycles goes again and again.
     
  19. GRB

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    I was talkin worthless from an upgrade perspective; don't have to worry about not having the 9800M GTX in my laptop (I'll wait for the *actual* new cards ;))

    as for AW I could see them throwing in the 9800, not a difficult upgrade. remains to be seen for montevina though (unlikely)
     
  20. EBE-1

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    i dont think is worthless, cause either is 10% or not, double memories will help alot in higher res, and im sure most of laptop gamers uses external monitor to output in higher res, such as i do, output in a 25" 19x12 LCD
     
  21. GRB

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    I would be very wary to say most laptop gamers use an external monitor. Many, yes, but I wouldn't say most. Though since I'm not one of them the extra memory doesn't help me ;)

    also check my other post above
     
  22. ArmageddonAsh

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    so 9800m GTX = 8800m GTX SLI? i dont think so
     
  23. EBE-1

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    However, i think its all down to the price, cause you never know AW ;p
    personaly i would want a AW over clevo anytime......but clevo is cheaper thats a fact, the new clevo with centrino2 and 9800mGTX cost around the same as the m15x, so i expect "if" AW release new laptop, it would be more expansive
     
  24. nbaumann

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    ALL laptop gamers I know do not use external monitors because they want to get used to the laptop screen because a lot of the time it's a hassle to carry around a monitor therefore they just use their laptops. And unless you have a 2560x1600 monitor, an external monitor wont be much higher resolution anyway.
     
  25. GRB

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    Though admittedly a lot do have them at home. You can see the pictures of all the guys hooking their HDMI m15xes to a home projector or somethin
     
  26. nbaumann

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    That's true though how many of these are somewhat serious gamers? And if they have them hooked to projector gaming would blow :D At least CS:S is nearly unplayable on a beamer.
     
  27. EBE-1

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    to me serious gamers would need a nice monitor ;P however this is only my opinnion, and the monitor is only for home use.....thats why we all bu laptops... but at home you dont need to carry it around that much, and its a single plug to the monitor anyway......and the point here is not about the res, ;P 19X12 on a 15' and 19x12 on a 25' its just uncomparable.... anyway its only my opinnion
     
  28. cdnalsi

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    Dude, that laptop looks amazing (from a specs point of view). As for its looks, it looks kinda crappy...
     
  29. romandelcastillo

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    I'm selling my m15x and waiting until mid august to see if AW makes any upgrades ;) . I'll be happy with montevina and 9800gtx
     
  30. crizzler

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    Whats the point in buying a superexpensive gaming laptop AND an external monitor AND then I guess an additional keyboard AND of course a mouse?
    IMO id rather go with a (shuttle) barebone instead of the laptop and I would have equal or more power for half the price AND still good portability!
     
  31. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    ARGH!!!!!!

    THe 9800, imo, is not going to be much of an improvement.

    Proof:
    -Look at the 9500 vs 8600
    -Its basically and OC'ed version of the 8800

    THe 1GB Vram is userful for video and graphics rendering, but I dont see much else
     
  32. nbaumann

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    Well because then when you go somewhere you don't need to take that extra monitor and keyboard?

    Anyway, the people I know do not use external monitors because they don't want to switch between screens every so often so that when they get into a situation in which they wouldn't an external monitor they don't have to get used to the laptop monitor again ie. LAN parties.
     
  33. GRB

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    which is why it isn't really the replacement. It's just like the 8700, it was never intended to be the 7950's true replacement. By the end of the year we should see the "9900" or whatever new naming scheme NVIDIA comes up with which acts as the true replacement
     
  34. nbaumann

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    True.

    GTX 280M anyone?
     
  35. the.s.a.i.n.t

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    the biggest advantage of the 9800M GTX might be that it produces not as much heat as the 8800M GTX. And that's something AW should look for as the m15x is quite hot.
     
  36. groove75

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    Well, I'm still waiting for my 2nd m15x unit and this clevo doesn't change my mind about anything. 10% increase in performance is too marginal an improvement and the laptop doesn't seem to have any of the power saving features (binary gfx/stealth, etc..) that the m15x has. The battery life is touted to be 2 hrs, which we all know is usually a liberal estimate by pc manufacturers. I need battery life AND graphical prowess. As much as I've complained in the past about the m15x, I'm still hoping that AW can iron out all the thermal kinks. I still think the laptop is beautiful to behold and AlienFX is wonderful. I'm not crazy about the shiny plastic box look, but I can learn to live with that I suppose. AW would do well to consider offering the m15x with the 9800m GTX though if for no other reason than marketing purposes.
     
  37. groove75

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    One thing I wish these pc manufacturers would start doing is offering a way to power on the laptop without opening it. Many of us do in fact use external displays and it's always a pain for me to open the laptop just to power it on if I'm using a usb keyboard and lcd monitor.
     
  38. groove75

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    I will say this though, the pricing is excellent on that new clevo.
     
  39. exiled

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    if your m15x is unplugged and then you plug in the ac adapter the m15x turns on automatically.
     
  40. Heliosvector

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    I agree. plus, the reduction in heat exchaust allows for there to be less stress on the cooling system therefore making the entire system have a longer lifespan and for the system to be able to be quieterr.
     
  41. Heliosvector

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    wow, how lazy. would you like the laptop to inhale air for you too?
     
  42. newfiejudd

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    Groove I believe the Clevo also has binary GFX. I am also pretty sure it will be standard feature of the new monte platform.

    To me the Clevo is a much more buisness type system. The m15x is still an amzing looking system, although it may be just a little too flashy for most buisness users. Plus it screams STEAL me. And most people that would see the Clevo wouldn't even know what is under the hood. It would be a amazing sleeper.
     
  43. the.s.a.i.n.t

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    as far as I know it's a supported feature but not standard. So I don't think the Clevo will have this feature in contrast to notebooks which will be released some months later...
     
  44. Heliosvector

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    I have already confirmed on the M860tu thread that it will support BinaryGFX later on. The hardware is able to use this feature, but the drivers are not up to clevo's satisfaction so they have not yet been released. I expect this feature to be activated around halloween.
     
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    laptops will not be rivaling desktops, especially when the new gt280 desktop cards come out this june. The new cards in june will be 1GB and will be much faster than the notebook gpu. my laptop right now has 1GB video card and it wont come close to my desktop card
     
  46. Vedya

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    THe amount of Vram doesnt really matter.

    Cus a 256 mb gddr3 8600m is still better than that 1GB HD 3650
     
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    i am excited about the gt280 lol
    "We also heard that GeForce GTX 280 used 512-bit 1GB GDDR3, built in 240SP and its TDP is 250W. It will use dual slot cooling fans. It can ran Crysis smoothly under 1920*1200. Anyway, we expect NVIDIA to announce the final results."
     
  48. GRB

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    There are still some energy-saving features the m15x will still have over the Clevo, including Stealth mode (allowing you to downvolt the battery lower than intel speedstep, though really with shareware programs you can downvolt any laptop, though less conveniently than a touch button) and the SB battery (allowing for indefinite hotswapping of batteries)

    As tacomenace has demonstrated, an m15x with every possible power-saving option on can get you up to 7 hours of battery life, an amount not possible with even the most portable laptops
     
  49. EBE-1

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    The point to have a superexpensive gaming laptop is to able to enjoy its performance and its mobility.......and to im sorry with 15' monitor, it a bit hard to fully enjoy it performance, its not about the quality of the LCD, its about the size of it......anyway...thats only my opinnion, but i dont understand why my point is so hard to understand ;P

    PS. the 15' 19X12 screen for the m15x is like 200+, why not take the lower res one and add 100$ to buy a bigger external monitor, they are very cheap nowadays. then you will be able to enjoy dual screen which give you alot more space.
     
  50. groove75

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    Yea, that's unbelievably impressive to me how much battery life the m15x can actually get when you utilize all the battery saving features. That's a major positive point to me.

    Yes, I know the laptop can power on when plugging in the AC but it just seems like a useless little hassle to have to open and then close it simply to power it on along with unplug/replug. Not a big deal but I like to gripe, what can I say.
     
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