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    Alienware New Model Speculation Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by BatBoy, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. Serephucus

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    I'd sacrifice weight for noise, particularly in a classroom/lecture envoirnment, so I'm happy about this design. Hopefully this will open up a good bit of GPU OCing as well.

    The M11x doesn't clock down its components under battery power, right? I wonder if the M14x will get full power while on battery too. (Somehow I doubt it, given higher TDP components running on the same battery, but you never know)
     
    Serephucus, Apr 12, 2011
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  2. dave-p

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    no SLI option on the m18x ???

    But a Xfire one with ATI Cards ?????
     
    dave-p, Apr 12, 2011
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  4. EviLCorsaiR

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    I don't think the M11x underclocks on battery. I don't think the M14x will either, but you'll have a pretty short battery on full blast if not.

    You would want SLi 460Ms, which are much weaker than XFire 6970s for similar money, or SLi 485Ms, which are about 5% better than XFire 6970s for a lot higher price?

    The only reason I can think of for most people actually wanting an nVidia solution in this notebook is to support 3D, and I don't think the M18x is being offered with a 3D screen (someone correct me if that's wrong).


    On another note, what's that column of keys that's on the far left of the keyboard on the M18x? A set of gaming macro keys perhaps? The machine also appears to have HDMI in, which is nice.

    Does anyone have the list of ports for the M14x yet, or know if it has a HDMI in connection?
     
    EviLCorsaiR, Apr 12, 2011
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  5. Serephucus

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    Oh I know, but I'm hoping it'll clock down if it's not doing anything. I mean if you're gaming, I'd like to be at least given the choice to use the full power of the laptop, unlike with the M15/17x.

    Yeah, they're macro keys. Alien TactX keys, or whatever they're calling them.

    I have to say, that looks like one in' laptop. But the underside... 3 fans? Possibly a fourth? (I'm not sure if that's a subwoofer or something else).

    I will not buy this laptop... I need food... I will not buy it... I will not buy it... I will not...
     
    Serephucus, Apr 12, 2011
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  6. WaR

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  7. mfractal

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    Yeah, THAT!
     
    mfractal, Apr 12, 2011
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  8. EviLCorsaiR

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    I'd say that's a fourth fan, there's a vent in the back. Fan's smaller though. Perhaps it's to cool the RAM/HDDs?

    But yeah, that thing looks absolutely beastly, that's for sure. I'd (hope) to get one but 18 inches really is too big (and heavy) for me!
     
    EviLCorsaiR, Apr 12, 2011
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  9. dave-p

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    I still find it odd that Dell did not go with a better NVIDIA GPU than the 460.

    Even Dual 470's would have been nice.

    But a single 460 is a joke
     
    dave-p, Apr 12, 2011
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  10. Conjuredevil

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    But I do hope it has 3D I haven't seen or heard yet that it would but if it does I am definately getting it! I have to upgrade my X305-Q701 Toshiba, Never going back to toshiba ever again thats for sure.
     
    Conjuredevil, Apr 12, 2011
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  11. Serephucus

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    I can't see that being the only option. I'm sure there'll be something else. I suppose the only reason that they didn't go with 485s is because they knew the 5xx was on its way, and the 485 isn't exactly a cheap GPU. Let's just hope the 580M is on its way I guess.
     
    Serephucus, Apr 12, 2011
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  12. Conjuredevil

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    485 would be added by next tuesday as it's day they officially announce it.
     
    Conjuredevil, Apr 12, 2011
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  13. EviLCorsaiR

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    Because dual 470s would probably be more expensive than the dual 6970Ms and not as fast.

    Maybe Dell are actually trying to get us the best notebooks for a good price here, so they're really strongly pointing towards the ATi cards...

    Still, there'll probably be more nVidia options when it's actually released.
     
    EviLCorsaiR, Apr 12, 2011
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  14. WaR

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    Yeah bro... 6970's in Crossfire. That's like, what? 4-way 5870's technically? Lol.
     
    WaR, Apr 12, 2011
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  15. EviLCorsaiR

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    I'd doubt it. The M17x R3 is their 3D laptop; they'd probably avoid giving the M18x 3D as well to try and keep good M17x sales.

    Or I might be completely wrong and they'll give both of them 3D.

    EDIT: Just noticed from the gallery info that they're going to offer a 'factory overclocked 4GHz' processor. Okay, maybe that explains the four fans...two of them are probably for the CPU :p

    Seriously though, a 4GHz quad core in a laptop...without cooling mods...that really is insane. And probably battery killing.
     
    EviLCorsaiR, Apr 12, 2011
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  16. Comrade Ynot

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    Tossing the chinese site through Google Translate;

    Seems that the wireless HD option will be available on this one, so maybe 14 and the new r3 17s will start having that option as well.

    Now if the screen is good, I know a ton of people who are gonna roll out the wads of cash for it.
     
    Comrade Ynot, Apr 12, 2011
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  17. Conjuredevil

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    Dell china says "Leaching from the entertainment Earned: With the optional NVIDIA GPU and WirelessHD, you can wirelessly transmit to any 3D 3D game equipment. 3D viewing features require a separate sale of 1 additional device."

    Alienware M18x????????? ? ????????????? | Dell China

    I don't know what to make of it.
     
    Conjuredevil, Apr 12, 2011
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  18. chewietobbacca

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    They probably won't have a 3D model until a higher end 5xx card comes out so it won't tarnish the m18x name as being the top gaming notebook

    And as for why no option other than the 460M... because 485M SLI is extremely expensive for minimal gains over 6970M crossfire, and 470M SLI would lose to 6970M crossfire despite potentially costing more

    Until Nvidia comes out with something more compelling for the price, it's 6970M CF or 460M's


    It means that you can output to 3D game equipment with the WirelessHD

    Doesn't say anything about the screen for the m18x itself being 3d Capable, but the GPU can output 3D to 3D-enabled screens
     
    chewietobbacca, Apr 12, 2011
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  19. Conjuredevil

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    As I mentioned earlier there is going to be an option of 485 SLi which is going to come up next tuesday along with its official announcement.
     
    Conjuredevil, Apr 12, 2011
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  20. Serephucus

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    And you know this how?
     
    Serephucus, Apr 12, 2011
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    Conjuredevil, Apr 12, 2011
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  22. JTOverath

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    I personally like the "Weapons Grade Processors".
     
    JTOverath, Apr 12, 2011
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  23. JTOverath

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    Haven't really looked at 3D, does NVIDIA support 3D with there SLi setup?
     
    JTOverath, Apr 12, 2011
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  24. Serephucus

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    Everything... interesting, because he also said the M18x would come at the beginning of March. He's just like everyone else: speculating.

    JTOverath: Yeah, they do.
     
    Serephucus, Apr 12, 2011
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  25. LamboFreak4ever

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    Why there is a single GTX 460M option?, if I want a single card I would normally go for the M17x-R3. It should start with the dual cards included.
    That is greedy :mad:
     
    LamboFreak4ever, Apr 12, 2011
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  26. Aliened

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    Aliened, Apr 12, 2011
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  27. chewietobbacca

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    That's just speculation right now, much like the 485M to M17xR3 rumors that haven't happened yet
     
    chewietobbacca, Apr 12, 2011
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  28. EviLCorsaiR

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    Of course. It'd be kind of stupid if they didn't, with the amount of power 3D requires.

    This isn't the official release, it was probably put up there entirely by accident. Order now and it'll probably be cancelled...

    But yeah, start with a single card and you can offer the system at a lower starting price. It's business.
     
    EviLCorsaiR, Apr 12, 2011
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  29. Morgotth

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    I wonder if my current Orion backpack could fit the m18x, I don't really want to buy a new backpack, any thoughts?
     
    Morgotth, Apr 12, 2011
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  30. Voodooi

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    Aww, they removed the M14X and M18X from the Canadian AW site :(
     
    Voodooi, Apr 12, 2011
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    Has anyone else who is interested in the m14x been checking out the lenovo y570? I am very conflicted over which would be better. I think that the battery may fair better for the alienware, but the size and weight would be considerably greater than the lenovo. I think the speaker quality will be about the same. The lenovo will have a full 1080p screen. Also, the chassis of the lenovo looks a lot better for taking to class and the math lounge. Has anyone modified the alienware chassis to look a little more professional? Does anyone have a prediction of battery life with integrated graphics only and the power saving options enabled on the m14x? Lastly, can anyone describe differences in build quality between the two? I have heard that the likelihood of getting a lemon from dell/alienware is about the same as lenovo. Also I am sure that the cooling system will be better on the alienware. Thanks in advance.
     
    flybass, Apr 12, 2011
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  32. abaddon4180

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    My point is that is so big that it might as well be considered 15''
     
    abaddon4180, Apr 12, 2011
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  33. flybass

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    I also consider the notebook a 15 inch just because of its screen resolution and the fact that it is so heavy.
     
    flybass, Apr 12, 2011
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  34. HEUR

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    and m11x should be considered as a 12"....

    and m15x should be considered as a 16"....

    and m17x should be considered as a 18"...

    and m18x should be considered as a 19"...

    I just have to said that m14x is perfect in size, portability and power...
     
    HEUR, Apr 12, 2011
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  35. flybass

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    Would you really not like the laptop a little lighter? I mean the m14x weighs in about the same as my sager 8660. That is a little ridiculous.
     
    flybass, Apr 12, 2011
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  36. EviLCorsaiR

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    No. The length and width are more closely related to other 14" laptops. And you can't consider it a 15" because of its thickness. Weight, maybe, if that's how you think of it.

    It's not ridiculous in the slightest. It means that the laptop will a. be built well out of high quality materials, and b. have a good cooling system.

    You might consider the weight rediculous, but also remember that this is rediculously powerful for a 14" notebook.
     
    EviLCorsaiR, Apr 12, 2011
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  37. yyduinihao0

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  39. HEUR

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    No. It is perfect... The most powerful 14 inches gaming laptop in the universe... It has almost the same size of my ASUS N81Vp-d1...
     
    HEUR, Apr 12, 2011
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  40. AboutThreeFitty

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    There is no 1080p screen for the y570. Only the 1366x768. See here: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/ww/pdf/Y570_datasheet.pdf
     
    AboutThreeFitty, Apr 12, 2011
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  41. HEUR

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    HEUR, Apr 12, 2011
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  42. AboutThreeFitty

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    Sony Z with the 13 inch screen. $2,000 and nowhere near the performance.(GPU)
     
    AboutThreeFitty, Apr 12, 2011
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  43. chewietobbacca

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    I was hoping for a little more from the GPU department... the GT 555M ain't bad, but it's a pretty big drop off from the GTX 460/560M. Can't have it all I guess
     
    chewietobbacca, Apr 12, 2011
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  44. EviLCorsaiR

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    People have been arguing about it quite a lot, they think it should be able to have such a GPU as it's 'only one inch smaller' than the M15x. The fact is the M15x was actually significantly larger than most 15" notebooks whereas the M14x is about the same size as most 14" notebooks (and several pounds lighter).

    A 460M/560M might not even fit into a notebook of that size (the 555M is actually soldered on/part of the motherboard, partly to save space) and even if it could, cooling would have been a problem. Like the M11x, both the CPU and GPU are on the same heatsink in the M14x, and this isn't a ULV CPU; it's a full power mobile CPU.

    So basically what I'm saying in a very long winded way is no, you can't really have it all. If you wanted the most powerful laptop you could get, look at the M18x. If you want something smaller and lighter with a better battery, you've got to make sacrifices unfortunately.
     
    EviLCorsaiR, Apr 12, 2011
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  45. kunekaden

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    I was hoping for gtx <whatever> or 6970 and no 3d options on the 15x.
     
    kunekaden, Apr 12, 2011
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  46. abaddon4180

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    The only thing it is closer to other 14'' notebooks in is length. It is deeper than almost all 14'' notebooks and a lot of 15.6'', thicker than most 15.6'' and weighs as much as a heavy 15.6''.

    What? It weighs at least a pound more than any almost all 14'' notebooks
     
    abaddon4180, Apr 12, 2011
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  47. cookinwitdiesel

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    Could still happen as an unsupported option. Pretty much anything that works in the M17x R2 should work in the M15x
    </whatever>
     
    cookinwitdiesel, Apr 12, 2011
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  48. chewietobbacca

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    I can see that Dell shifted their lineup a bit w/ all the new notebooks

    M11xR2 -> M11xR3
    M15x Low End -> M14x ??
    M15x High End -> M17xR3
    M17xR2 -> M18x

    It'll be interesting to see what happens w/ the m15x actually


    The leaked m14x specs are somewhere between a typical 14" and 15.6" notebook, so it's not really just a typical 14"er

    But yeah, I'm not expecting a 460m/560M in there, that will be up to the m15x's replacement
     
    chewietobbacca, Apr 12, 2011
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  49. elevul

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    OMG, finally a good 18,4'' besides the sagem/clevo (which was retired, if I'm not wrong), is going to be released! O_O
     
    elevul, Apr 12, 2011
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    Kissarmy, Apr 12, 2011
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