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    Alienware New Model Speculation Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by BatBoy, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. Paddon

    Paddon Notebook Evangelist

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    100% agree :)
     
  2. ejohnson

    ejohnson Is that lemon zest?

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    hmm, I hope the hdd space can hold the 12.5mm 1tb laptop drives..
     
  3. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    This would be very interesting. WD screwed me recently....had to RMA a 750GB for my mom's laptop and got back a 1TB drive that I cant install! Was pretty miffed

    I had ordered that 750 because at the time it was the largest 9.5mm drive (all that that and MANY other laptops could fit).
     
  4. ejohnson

    ejohnson Is that lemon zest?

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    Ive been holding off on buying a new hdd till they can get the 1tb into a smaller package.

    Or till my m11x is out of warranty and I can just go ahead and mod the case to fit it.
     
  5. AirJordan

    AirJordan Notebook Evangelist

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    Well here's some exciting news, as per Eric G...

    If this is true then we may be seeing some more info about the M18x soon. :)
     
  6. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    This is now my favourite thread on NBR and I will follow it religiously until the M14X is in my hands! :D
     
  7. mb67

    mb67 Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't know; IF these rumors are true, then my search for a replacement laptop might be over. I like the idea of a 14" AW, but it remains to be seen about it's validity...
     
  8. dave-p

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    So s the M15 going to get a Sandy Bridge CPU upgrade any time soon ?
     
  9. KillerBunny

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    Unlikely at this point. There has been no speculation on a revision to the m15x. It's most likely that it follows the speculation that most people have been thinking, that the m17x r3 (which isn't much bigger/heavier than m15x) is the replacement for the m15x. And the m18x will be the successor to the m17x r2.

    Another guess is that the alledged m14x will be the m15x's next replacement.
     
  10. joecait

    joecait Notebook Deity

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    This is great. I am so busy that I was planning to wait anyways. Did anyone post possible specs of the size of the M18x already? It would be nice if they found ways to trim the size down a bit from the 12lb+ monsters these dual gfx cards tend to be.

    I would love to have the "option" to use Crossfire/SLI later down the line.
     
  11. FXi

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    Probably the 240W is for a single GPU M18x. That's why there isn't a 485M on the R3, perhaps? So as not to compete with the M18x? Anyway, that guess aside, remember that a 6500 runs a 5000M on a 240W PSU, so likely as not that is what the "smaller" PSU is for on the M18x. It "might" run 460 SLI as well, but since Dell likes to play it safe (and they should) you will probably get bumped to the 330W PSU as soon as you select CF or SLI of any card.

    Bear in mind, though, that no one has yet seen this 330 PSU. They made a very thin version of the 240 for the M17x, and that was noticeably lighter than the standard 240 with the 6400/6500 series. So it's entirely possible they've done some weight magic on the 330 PSU as well. So don't just give in to despair because it may be lighter than you'd think from the numbers.

    I'm not saying the machine and PSU will be light relative to other machines, but I tend to think they'll have done their homework on doing what is feasible to keep it reasonable for the class of machine that it is. And of course there are now going to be many options (like the R3) if people want to lower the ability of the machine to get lighter weight. M14 to M18 you are looking at roughly 6, 8.5 and 10.5lbs I believe, so you end up with a range to suit many different preferences.
     
  12. electrosoft

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    M-ALX II: This time it's called the M18x.

    As a former M-ALX owner, I'm pretty stoked over the M18x.
     
  13. KillerBunny

    KillerBunny Notebook Evangelist

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    The m17x r3 could easily handle the wattage of the 485m. And if it actually got it, it wouldn't even make it a "competitor" to the m18x, because it does not offer sli or crossfire or extreme processors, which most fanboys are gearing for. It would however put the m17x on equal footing with its clevo/asus competitors.

    I agree with you on the psu stuff. A 240 watt psu could easily handle 460m sli, but they would probably play safe and put in the 330 just to be safe. 485m sli or 6970 crossfire-no doubt a 330.

    From the pictures, the m14x does look a bit thinner than the m15x, but not much. And considering the brick-like nature of the m15x, I would expect the m14x to be in the neighborhood of 7lbs. The m18x, even if it follows the r3's new diet routine, still has to deal with dual gpus and fans. Even if they fit it in the current r2 chassis, I still think it would weigh well upwards of 10lb.
     
  14. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    IMHO, the biggest problem of the M18x would be a mediocre screen. There are no RGB LED 18.4" panels available, AFAIK and it wouldn't be cost-effective for Dell to "encourage" manufacturers here.
     
  15. AirJordan

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    Considering that when the M17x launched, it came with a sub-par screen, do you think they may upgrade the screen on the M18x to possibly RGB quality like they did with the M17x-R2? I'm really in doubt that the screen will be anything special at launch, but I'm hoping that they will add better options down the road.
     
  16. FXi

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    If this is very close to market, whatever screen is coming is set in stone at this point, probably WLED and 1080, 16:9. I can live with the 1080, but I'm truly praying they found a quality WLED screen like no other (better than any other out there), or they convinced a manufacturer to build a RGB LED 18" for this model (very unlikely).

    Most of the specs are perfectly dead on - so likely I'll get one. But the RGB screen would have made the machine perfect. Let's wait and see how it looks. Some WLED screens are at least very good, so we'll see soon enough what they put on the M18x :) I am sure quite a few people are going to own them as soon as they are out...
     
  17. electrosoft

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    Yeah, I'm past my love in of, RGB LED screens. :) But hopefully the screens offered are nice. Hopefully they will be on par or better than the 18.4" Panels that shipped with the Asus W90's. They were beautiful. Something like the Adobe RGB Screen that shipped with the Sony AW's in 18.4" format would be icing on the cake.
     
  18. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    They upgraded the M17X-R2 screen because 17" RGB LED panels were/are in abundance (M6500, Lenovo W7xx, HP 87xx, etc). 18.4" is a very tiny niche. That would be totally impractical for Dell to pay manufacturers for making a new special panel. HP and LG did it with IPS screens, but there was/is certain demand (+600$ for a screen upgrade alone :eek: ) for such screens in the business sector.

    Hope you are right. I'd also love to see a matte screen options but that doesn't seem viable at all :(
     
  19. FXi

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    I think you are right Aikimox. We're going to get something as good as they can "get" on the market for 18", but it will be a panel available on the market, not something they had built for the M18x specifically.
     
  20. JCrichton

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    I'd be nice if a LEDRGB screen was an option in M18x, even if it was pricey.
     
  21. jk6959

    jk6959 Notebook Consultant

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    Wow the M14x sounds interesting, but it's a shame about the thickness & optical drive, I've no background in engineering but would have thought removing the ODD wouldn't disappoint many people whilst being able to make it a little less chunky. I expect it to be thicker than your average due to having decent cooling, but it's as heavy and thicker than quite a few cheaper 17" laptops.
     
  22. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    Well, no ODD is palletable for me if it has Gigabit ethernet, at least :)

    As long as it doesn't need to throttle on the battery, and has similar battery life to at least the m11xR2, I'm pretty much stoked for this machine. :D

    Well, I'd also settle for a WLED array with decent phosphors...
     
  23. vzachari

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    [Rant]

    I don't know if I am alone on this but if there was 1 thing on the M17xR2 that everybody liked was its RGB screen. I mean the laptop had flickering issues which later sort of got resolved but everybody adored the RGB screen. And what does dell do, remove it from all laptops in the new Alienware lineup. I still hope the M18x materializes with such a screen but no info about it at the moment. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

    [/Rant]
     
  24. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    yeah, I was annoyed at the R3 for not having a decent display to really lead the pack, and because I already have a calibrated U2311h at home and barely tolerate my m11x's poor screen. The single GPU, I'm okay with, since the HD6970m is rather powerful on it's own. However, the lack of a RGBLED, IPS, or even a PVA (is there even a PVA variant on mobile displays?) panel really irked me, so I simply didn't buy a R3 and am waiting it out, while looking around at other laptop vendors to see what they got.
     
  25. Kevin

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    Hm, the GT 555M is only awesome, if it's the GDDR5 variant.

    DDR3 would suck majorly. Hopefully Dell doesn't let me down.
     
  26. BlazeGaj

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    The 18x sounds really awesome. If it has a better screen, 3d and hdmi input option as well I would regret it a little.
     
  27. MetuoMe95

    MetuoMe95 Notebook Geek

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    Holy crap that guy seriously BLACKS OUT about alienware laptops.
     
  29. KillerBunny

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    Understatement.
     
  30. kingp1ng

    kingp1ng Notebook Evangelist

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    umm... did that guy get a PhD from that enormous, detailed paper?
     
  31. brontosaurus

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    So I guess I should hold off on my purchase of an R2?
     
  32. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    Wow ...that's the most hardcore AW fan I've ever seen.

    I did read one of his later posts and he mentioned that the Best Buy in Long Island, N.Y. (computer department) claimed that the M11 R3 was in their system and they expected to have/sell it in a month ...so that's good news for the M11 lovers if that bit of information is infact correct :)

    I'll continue my wait for the M14 (hoping it has a tier 1 video card...).
     
  33. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    if you have $1500 to blow on a netbook, yes....

    R1>R2.... :p
     
  34. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    R3 won't 1500$ lol ...that's the price of the M17X R3.

    I see the M11 R3 being under 1k stock configured.

    This is my vision in a couple months:
    - M11X R1 = 499$
    - M11X R2 = 599$
    - M11X R3 = 799$
    - M14X R1 = 999$
    - M17X R3 = 1499$
    - M18X R1 = 1799$

    These are my speculation prices for stock/base units give. I'm keep the competitions prices in mind when listing the AW prices.

    I didn't include the M15 since it's obsolete.
     
  35. xDARKNESS

    xDARKNESS Notebook Guru

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    I can only agree with half that. m11x r2 for 599$ i wish. If that were true I would buy a few dozen and take a trip to a foreign country. Make a nice profit.
     
  36. Typecast

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    Huh? It is $599. Alienware M11x Laptop Details | Dell
     
  37. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    m11x r3 with wled options? I don't think so. Why would they put that on the m11x r3 and not with the m17x r3?
     
  39. thegh0sts

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    no idea but it would definitely bump the price up!
     
  40. xDARKNESS

    xDARKNESS Notebook Guru

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    Typecast NBR's Tamed Zombie

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    Ooooh. LOL. Sorry. :D The r2 is the I series m11x right?
     
  42. PsiPr0

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    cmon m18x!!!! lol. I will be so happy if that comes out...even if it is released this year.
     
  43. phobic

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    Ahh I'm so on the fence on what I want.

    Go with the M18x and hold of on a desktop upgrade for a while?
    Get the M14x for more portability + gaming?
    Get the M17x R3 now and... uhh... regret my choice later? :D

    Looking forward to more info about these new machines though.
     
  44. Phinagle

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    Out of only curiosity, I'm waiting to see if it's the official 192-bit/DDR3 GT 555M listed on nvidia.com, or the 128-bit/GDDR5 GT 555M that showed up in the MSI GT780.

    The "1.5GB or 3GB discrete video memory" vzachari claims the M14x is listed with suggests 192-bit.
     
  45. xDARKNESS

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    lol np, and yes its the I series.



    On another note, the wait is killing me. For all of the new laptops, alienware needs to just leak the info now and build up the hype. "Color options: Red / Black, Soft Touch" Does that mean the red would come out with soft-touch cause that would be epic?
     
  46. Comrade Ynot

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    New version of the M11x R3 due for April.

    and here at PR

    They get this info from Dell Lab page which has

    AC Adapter/Charger: 90W

    Battery: 8-Cell 63WHr

    LCD: 11.6", 1366x768, TrueLife glossy panel, White-LED backlight

    RAM stick options: 1GB/2GB/4GB/8GB, 1333MHz, DDR3

    CPU options: i5-2537M, 1.4GHz up to 2.3GHz
    i7-2617M, 1.5GHz up to 2.6GHz
    i7-2657M, 1.6GHz up to 2.7GHz

    HDD options: 250GB / 320GB / 500GB / 640GB / 750GB, SATA2, 7200rpm
    SSD: 256GB, SATA2, Samsung P810

    Wireless options: WWAN 3G, LTE/WiMax 4G

    Color options: Red / Black, Soft Touch

    No word on whether there's going to be a discrete GPU yet.
     
  47. crpcookie

    crpcookie Notebook Geek

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    I hate glossy screen. Also, if the battery life is around the same as M11x R2, then that's a complete fail with that CPU, considering Sony S is offering a much higher clocked 2nd Gen. Intel Dual cores with 7.5 hrs not including the sheet battery. I hope it's false news to be honest. :p
     
  48. .PoNeH

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    M11xR3 = lame! Period!
     
  49. gvonnatur

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    Are we gonna have to wait 'till June for any update from Alienware? I just looked at the exhibit list for E3 and they're on it.
     
  50. cookinwitdiesel

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    I would say that is a pretty firm yes then haha
     
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