Alienware New Model Speculation Thread

Fail, it shows xps laptop picture.

 

Those specs are ridiculous for a netbook-sized laptop. 16GB DDR3 RAM available? 2GB of graphics memory? 10/100/1000 Wireless? 2 USB 3.0 ports? I'm selling my laptop for a Nebula Red R3 i7 if the performance is there! And my 20% Dell employee discount isn't making the wait any easier...

 

so no 485 sli bad

 

Where did you pull those specs from?? If they're for real, I'm seriously considering going with another m11x....

 

Seriously, the lack of 485 SLi is not a bad thing. Crossfire 6970Ms perform about 5-10% less, but at half the price.

The ONLY reason anyone should want to go for 485 SLi is for nVidia 3D or CUDA. For raw performance, it's a waste of money.

 

As long as the 485M SLi DO NOT have optimus (i don't wanna deal with it) and supports a 120hz 18.4" panel, I'll get them. If not, then there's no reason at all to grab them unless you like to waste money.

 

And what if the 6970 Xfire support a 120hz screen?

 

Of course they'll support Optimus, if it's available. However, there will probably be a BIOS option to turn it off.

As for the screen, a 120Hz screen is highly unlikely. You'd need an external monitor if you want 120Hz.

I think he meant if the laptop has an option for a 120Hz screen.

 

I'm sure it has an option for a 120hz screen, but in the R3 it was exclusive to the nvidia card, maybe now since there's no 3d they will give that option with the 6970 as well.

edit: do all 120hz displays support 3d? In that case then maybe Dell aren't offering it as an option since we saw that there's no 3d

 

I don't think there will be a 120hz screen because no manufacturer makes an 18.4" one afaik. So the debate comes down to price erformance and in that regard, 6970M Xfire is the better deal. It consumes less power, has nearly the same performance and runs cooler. Unless you need the 485M for some specialized program that works better on nvidia hardware, there's really no reason at all to buy the 485M.


As an aside, I don't think M18x will even have IGP support. I haven't seen it mentioned at all in any of the promotional material leaked so far and Dell didn't have it anywhere in their configuration page.

 

From the information we have (and the laptop's 'features' when it was temporarily listed on one of the Dell sites) it suggests that 3D will only work with an external screen, which in turn suggests that there will be no 120Hz option.

They probably wouldn't want to steal the '3D spotlight' from the M17x.

 

Yeah I too hope there won't be IGP even with AMD, it's just added trouble and I don't care about battery life at all.
And definitely without the benefit of a 120hz display or 3d then there's absolutely no reason to go with 485m SLI.

 

Added it as an edit in my previous post, was wondering if all 120hz screens support 3d, in that case and knowing there is no 3d support in the M18X (except on an external display) then yeah surely no 120hz screen will be offered.

 

IGP isn't trouble as long as it's with AMD. It worked fine for me with the R3. It's optimus that tends to be a headache to deal with. Ideally I'd want AMD IGP support for the M18x but that won't deter me from buying one if it doesn't support it. A 120hz display would have been nice, lately I notice tearing in games and it annoys me. Triple buffering adds some input lag and I totally notice it so that isn't a true solution either.

 

18.4" 120hz will exist soon :

Toshiba's P770 and P775 3D Satellite laptops do 120Hz on the go -- Engadget

 

don't forget these prices are for the base model, fully loaded the picture changes dramatically, I saved well over £1000 buying my system in the US

 

if you looked at the promo pics on Dell website one of them was showing 3D

3D is here to stay

 

I wish the 3D would be mandatory or included in the price.. But that's just wishful thinking..lol

 

I really hope that 3D is never included by default. I have a few eye conditions that means 3D does nothing at all for me; looks the exact same, just offset, "doubled", if you like. I'd be paying a premium for something I'd never use. (Well, two things: the display and the glasses)

At this point, I'm pretty sure the only thing missing from the M14x is Lunar Silver. A HDMI-in would be a nice touch, but not strictly necessary. ... then again, I suppose a silver chassis isn't either.

 

Just an interesting piece of info: The Alienware M11x r1 is back at 799$

 

am i right to think that the m14x will have wireless hdmi out ?

Would you have to buy an adapter for your tv/monitor ?

 

If it's under €50, perhaps. I don't use my TV/monitor as a laptop display a whole lot, and I have a bunch of HDMI cables lying around, so...

 

I wouldn't wanna get an adapter, I'd want them to still keep it simple though..I could do without the 3D though it would be cool if it were a "free" feature meaning we wouldn't need to pay for it.. Like the 1 graphics fits all thing, it would be great to just have to pay for the best processor and be done..It'll make it a lot cheaper and easier..

 

how much do you think a full spec 3d m14x would cost in £ in the UK ? ( not including ssd )

 

For the m14x, is the stock screen (1366x768) also a truelife screen ? Just want to verify that.

 

M14x has hdmi 1.4 port , as well as vga port.

 

For the M18x, that was advertising 3D capabilities with a compatible external monitor. Not internal screen.

 

Yes, according to Alienware UK.

Look here and scroll to the LCD configuration tab.

 

Wow. If that's the final pricing, I'm impressed. I could pick up the spec I want for around £1100. Considering how much Dell UK normally marks up prices, that's not bad at all.

The M17x is very tempting, but if I do come to get a new laptop, that price difference is too big for me to ignore. (It'd cost me close to £2000 for the spec of M17x I'd get)

 

I hope the 120hz monitor will be mandatory, but the 3d crap (glasses, infrared sensor and all that) optional.

 

This news article says that both the M14x and the M18x will be announced Tuesday the 19th.

Dell Alienware m18x and Alienware m14x coming 19 April - Pocket-lint

 

Great link there, thanks m8

+ rep

 

Is that link real? Nice one, I didnt realise the custom spec pages were released

 

if you have eye conditions then you must get 3D screen but disable the 3D
every DR recommend to use screens with high refresh rate, 120 frame = much less strain on the eyes, same thing with HDTVs.

 

Not sure if this has been mentionned yet, but here is the link for the M18x configuration page in the UK as well!
Starting price: £1698.99.
Interesting info: You can select a Momentus XT as your primary Hard drive.

 

Hmm. Nice find, but the configurator actually crashes for me if I try and select anything, like a different component page.

 

great find.....

WOW 32gb ram is expensive

 

Try using the listed view, it works great for me!

@amosingh : Yeah I guess 8Gb ram stick are pretty expensive

 

They forgot to mention the M11x R3 will be also available on the 19th

 

Updating link to M18X UK config: The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

 

Thanks, the listed view works fine.

Pricing is actually really good. £2,200 for a laptop with dual 6970Ms...hmm. I wonder how much I can save?

Hey, on both the M14x and M18x in the UK it has options for 1600MHz RAM (1600 actually comes as default on the M14x). This would be underclocked to 1333 with the 2620QM, correct?

Oh, and would 1600MHz actually make a difference in games over 1333MHz?

On another note, it appears the 2720QM isn't available on the M14x unless the configuration options change between now and official release. That's a disappointment.

 

Here are pictures i toke in case it get pulled or if it's not working for you
(only 1080p lcd available and it's included in the price)









320GB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive [Included in Price]
500GB Momentus XT Solid State Hybrid Drive [add £30.00 or £1/month1]
750GB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive [add £85.00 or £4/month1]
256GB Dell Mobility Solid State Drive [add £460.00 or £23/month1]
Dell Recommended
640GB (2x320GB) SATA Raid 0 "Stripe" (7,200rpm) Dual HDD [add £85.00 or £4/month1]
1TB (2x500GB) Momentus XT Solid State Hybrid Raid 0 "Stripe" (7,200rpm) Dual HDD [add £260.00 or £13/month1]
1.5TB (2x750GB) SATA Raid 0 "Stripe" (7,200rpm) Dual HDD [add £320.00 or £16/month1]
512GB (2x256GB) Solid State Drive Raid 0 "Stripe" Dual HDD [add £930.00 or £46/month1]
750GB (2x750GB) SATA Raid 1 "Mirror" (7,200rpm) Dual HDD [add £230.00 or £11/month1]

 

Wow if they don't catch that, that is an amazing deal.

 

Will the m18x have an expresscard slot?

 

I saw 330W PSU for 2920xm and dual 6970M, great specs for great machine

 

German M11x R3 configuration site.

Any information about the battery life of the M14x?

 

I spec'd out a m18x with the following

Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
Alienware M18x Stealth Black
Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 2820QM (2.30Ghz, 6MB, 4C)
Graphics : Dual 2GB GDDR5 AMD® Radeon™ HD 6970M CrossfireX™
4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048]
320GB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
Intel® Ultimate N WiFi Link 6300 a/g/n 3x3 - Europe
Dell Wireless 375 Bluetooth Card - EUR
DVD+/-RW (DVD, CD read and write)
No Antivirus Software
1Yr Next Day Hardware Support included with your PC
No Accidental Damage Support
18.4" WideFHD (1920 x 1080) WLED LCD
Primary 12-cell 96W/HR LI-ION


It comes to $4,201.06 USD after converting from British Pound.
Dammmm!

 

The following is for the benefit of anyone scrolling through the thread:

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$ (USD) =/= £ (GBP)

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Straight conversions mean nothing. This does not factor in regional pricing.

If you want a better estimate:
GPB + 20% = USD
2,500 GBP + 500 = 3,000 USD
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I'd say even that may be a little off, I could easily see the M14x being $1100 USD just like it's 1100 GBP.

 

Honestly I'll wait till the 485M sli is available. It's more than performance that bases that decision, a lot more. But 6970 is a valid option and I don't think anyone should think that 6970CF and 485Msli won't trade blows in the performance arena. 10% lead won't mean more than a few FPS to either party, which most people will never notice. So if you need something immediately go CF.

I'm tending to guess that there is an availability issue with 485M's. They seem to be an easy way to get a long order lead time no matter what machine you try to buy them in. But I've waited this long for the M18x, I'll wait to get the right parts in it (for me) before making a leap of this cost level.


And I've confirmed that unless your machine has a 2920xm in it, XMP profiles do you no good. So don't waste the money on memory for which you gain no benefit, unless you have an extreme CPU in your machine.