Alienware forums...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/slow-site-performance.792212/page-4#post-10282599

 

And I thought it was my DSL. Thanks for the link

 

I don’t understand why there are lot of people complain about Alienware BGA. But also Asus ROG, Acer Predator, etc.. are BGA.


BTW I also dislike BGA, but it seems all of manufactures go that way. Who still has MXM? Clevo? MSI? Anyother else?

 

I think it's really easy to understand why. It's kind of a no-brainer. We have already posted numerous reasons why. There are multiple reasons why BGA sucks and we don't need to list them again.

But, if you dislike BGA as you stated, that alone is a good enough reason to boycott products built that way. The only way we are going to turn the tide on this kind of filth is by causing financial harm to the people peddling this crap and not offering a better options for those that want them. Accepting it because that's all they offer is not a good idea to me.

Clevo is the only one using decent (socketed desktop) CPUs, but there are still other makes and models using MXM cards. Not all of the OEMs are gimping both CPU and GPU. Many of the better gaming notebooks are still using MXM. BGA GPUs are mainly used on the thin and light products, and Alienware (which uses it for everything).

 

we used to respect Alienware because they were cool and modular and upgradeable, and now they're not. They lost the cool factor we used to love them for.

Mock my words, I will start a company from Alienware's ashes and bring the "modular" back !

 

COOL!!!!

 

make clevo with egpu x16 connection

 

That's easy. Seriously, no joke. You can get away with plugging in and removing cards in a desktop when it's powered on, if done properly. The mpcie cards to Pcie exist, then you just add an adapter etc.. and done. Housing is another thing too.

I'd more gear towards modularity, being able to use ANY screen much easier, changing laptop motherboard not needing to change whole chassis etc, bigger PSU's or dual options built right into the chassis.

All theoretical of course. I do have some idea's, but I'm going to reveal anything here - too afraid those Alienleaches take my idea and run with it.

 

Start your own company and I'll be the first customer to buy from you.

Also, maybe ability to use standard atx psu?

 

you wouldn't want that, lol.

 

why not?

 

Did you really mean mock or mark?

 

Anyone notice dell ideastorm is full of viagra ad spammers?

 

hahaha I meant mark... wow, I said mock my words, thats funny !

 

Must be prophetic since all they sell now is impotent BGA stuff. @Papusan - did you happen to notice the XPS 15 outperforms the Alienware 15 in several relevant measurements? http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/dell-xps-15-2016-laptop-review/

I thought so, too.

 

Do note that the AW15 the review team reviewed had an i5-4210H.
http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/alienware-15-review/2/

 

I have posted review of a Dell machine in one of the threads in the forum. I don't remember exactly where I put it. But the reviewer changed Aw 15 as first choice to second place!! The new winner was a Dell machine. Both tested was from the Skylake i7 models. Dell use the term gaming laptops on all their different laptop model family's now, LOL

 

In that case the review is flawed for not having disclosed the inequitable comparison. That could be extremely misleading if the specs of the comparison machines are not fully disclosed. Should not have to hunt down previous reviews to find out. (It obviously is misleading since I assumed it was an apples-to-apples showdown... my bad... just a random comparison.) I don't understand the rationale of comparing randomly configured hardware. Seems pretty silly, especially without full disclosure of specs, but that's just me. If I were considering buying one I would want to know how the XPS 15 stacks up against competing products with an identical CPU and GPU. But, it's still shameful that an XPS 15 would beat an Alienware 15 at anything. It's also shameful that an Alienware with an i5 ever existed... that's got "meh" written all over it, LOL. Now, to be fair, it's probably pretty safe to say that a fairly high percentage of people buying any of the machines being compared in that review would not have a flipping clue what they were buying whether it be an i3, i5, i7, A8 or whatever... and many would make a purchasing decision solely on the appearance of the bar graphs and the observations of the reviewer, and that is just ridiculous.

 

It will be interesting to see if Dell later down the road might use same motherboard / cooling, whatever it is a Alienware or ordinary Dell machine. This will gain more money for the shareholders + easier to obtain spare parts for their model series. Only the visible will be different but their models can atleast have same performance.

 

I'd actually be shocked if they didn't do that. I'm surprised they're not already doing it, to be honest. They could slash production costs and maximize profits greatly in that manner. And, they could bring an eGPU with an XPS logo to the customers that like the XPS Ultrabook profile better than the Alienware.

 

Yeah.., And Dell can easily use their patented proprietary G/A port on all their brands laptop models. This is a big win win... The G/A tech is easy to implement and also well tested now.
They should do it now before other come up with a graphic dock who can be used on most laptop models from any brand!!

 

surprised they're not doing it.

actuyally no im not, it would increase the cost of the motherboard by 1-2$ or such, they'd have to charge 200-300$ more to justify the paychecks needed to grease such a deal.

 

Since that would make good sense, I'm not surprised they aren't.

--edit--

exactly... all about them, not the customer

 

But if Dell can sell a bit more of their G/A + a few overpriced mid end graphics cards I think Dell's shareholders maybe will push for it anyway

 

Share holders at DELL don't give a ratsass about Alienware, Alienware most likely doesn't touch 1% of DELL's sales. If you mentioned Alienware to the CEO or board of directors, they'd be like " who ?".

 

Dell doesn't have any shares now, Its Private, that's what led the Demise of Alienware, Since 2013 the downfall of Alienware has begun.

The deal of Alienware was too deep, It was a mere contract type before Dell took-over it fully, They had proposed that for some time-period Alienware will be key aspect in designing the machines and now the deal's contract is done, fully controlled by Dell, Dead brand.

M17x /M18x / M15x generation / Aurora / Aurora ALX / Area 51 Gen 1 & ALX (True Alienware DNA) -----> Alienware 17 / 18 (Transitional phase, The privatization was announced in 2013 as soon to happen deal) ----> Area 51 R2/ x51 / Echo laptops / New Aurora, all B$ crap machines (Fully gimped, Dell Private corp doesn't give rat's-butt to the consumers)

I couldn't get the source of this post It was told by a forum member here, He knew it from his friend / contact an insider news.

Happy that atleast I got to see what a beauty and beast the Alienware was, future generations can only see the infestation / abomination.

 

G/A is a non-sense. If i buy a laptop means i need portability.

 

hence being traditionally called a laptop.

 

you think that's bad, look at the asus watercooled laptop....

 

Aahahah yes you right, Asus watercooled laptop is worst
Is the n° 1 non-sense.

 

The X51 was released in early 2012, so I don't think it belongs in the last group.

 

They just discontinued the X51. A week or 2 ago.

 

Noooo! Why? Replaced by Alpha with GTX 960?

 

Yeah, seems like they think the have that segment covered with the Alpha. They revised the Alpha and discontinued the X51.

http://en.community.dell.com/dell-b...to-a-friend-alienware-x51-hello-to-the-future

 

Yeah cause we can bought an Alpha with GA. I think GA is a non-sense for Alien-laptop, but for desktop it can be great.

 

For a desktop it's great?

If you buy a desktop then put the card in the desktop without any external nonsense! It's not called a desktop for no reason!

 

Keep in mind that you have to have the GTX 960 in the Alpha in order to use the GA. If you have the R9 m470x in there, you can't use the GA despite the port still being there.
None of the other GA-compatible computers have such a restriction (have a AMD GPU? You can still use the port), and for a GPU like the R9 m470x, it makes more sense to use the GA for more power.

 

So buying something in addition to a desktop to use a desktop part which basically just works in any other desktop makes sense?

 

but remember that the GA is around 200 more if you buy it, not including the GPU

at that price point it would be wiser to build yourself a small pc

 

Yeah, you guys are right. Better an Alienware Aurora.

 

for the price of an alienware laptop you could build a decent pc even without spending the extra on the GA

 

Dunno, when the game gets into dark areas and shadows, my RGB LED M17x-R2 screen looks SUPER crappy. Makes me wish I had a newer screen at least. Either way, it's a dinosaur and pretty much done for. I'm going to wear it out, then throw it away eventually. Meanwhile, I'm looking to get another Alienware laptop late this year, early next year. Need something for the new games....sans "Amp". If I wanted a desktop gaming PC, I would get a desktop gaming PC...oh wait, I already have one...lol...

 

Tbh I would keep an eye on eurocom atm they got that sky x9e2 DTR with 1080 sli up on their site. Alienware's hardware last few years is something that many have commented as being less than what they used to offer. Unless they release a proper DTR and not a BGA notebook it might be time to weigh up alternatives.

 

Right, or the single card variant i.e the NP9775 versions or however it's known.

 

This thread has long been side tracked.
It's time to move on.