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    Are there any new Alienware models in the works? [Speculations and Wish List]

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by YAYTech, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. Meaker@Sager

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    The E-GPU could be as part of a dock (both usb and thunderbolt on the bottom) with keyboard. From an engineering perspective you use ULV haswell and once plugged in clock it as much as possible and it would actually be a decent gamer.
     
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    Question at the top. Any speculations yet?
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    would like to see a 19" alienware notebook haha :D
     
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    Hmm. The r3 of the m17x was a new design from the m17x r1 and 2, and the m18x and m14x have had the same design for the last 2 years. I wouldn't be surprised of the next gen has all new, or nearly (for the m17 and 18x at least) all new designs. I am predicting thinner with better cooling.

    Something interesting. There has been some rumors floating around that AW might be discontinuing the m18x and bringing dual dpu's and possibly aluminum chassis's back to the m17x. I could see this working well for for them. It would be similar to how their full sized desktop works. There would be a normal m17x thats similar to the current one, maybe a little thinner, made of plastic that can have one high end GPU, and then you could opt for an ALX m17x chassis that would allow you to have dual high end GPU's, be made of aluminum, etc... and would be around the same size as the current m17x, maybe a little thicker.
    This would probably be optimal imo because 17 inches allows for far more screen options such as 3d and IPS.
     
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    It could be best just due to the higher end 17.3" LCD panels available.

    M17X ALX, that would be very tempting!
     
  6. dandan112988

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    Their line up was much better before...m15x, m11x and the dual gpu m17x. I feel like since they screwed up their line up, their sales have been suffering.

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  7. Defengar

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    The next gen, whatever number x's are involved will likely have more color varieties at least. the petition asking for more colors on AW laptops and desktops is one of the most popular on Ideastorm and a Dell rep has responded to it with enthusiasim saying it is being heavily considered.
     
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    Well it seems easy enough to implement, they made a big push on their inspiron lines and the like so they have the capacity and volume to pull it off.
     
  9. Emm3

    Emm3 Notebook Evangelist

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    What I would like to see is not so much wasted space on their screens. The 14x can EASILY sport a 15.6 display if they just switched to a proper panel with a thin border. Ive always been a resolution guy and im off to the retina but I know im going to be dissapointed by its performance. so what it looks better.
     
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    Think of your retinas, Bro. I'm also a resolution and color depth guy but had to get rid of the rmbp after just a few days of using one, - too much strain on my eyes. It's a very gimmicky tech when used in 15" laptops. Even a 1080p is pushing the limits there. I'd really appreciate more screen real estate (do a lot of virtualization) but there's a very delicate balance between how many pixels you can physically put on the screen and how many pixels your eyes can handle. In my case, I'd probably go for higher than FHD res on a 18.4" screen, but it wouldn't be 2.8kx1.8k.
     
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    What i like is for Alienware to stop messing around and use dual cooling on their loud and obnoxious single fan and to put decent quality 900p display on that m14x instead of that dead gamut no life color because it is way below 40% gamut.

    But I have a feeling they would use the same design and single fan feature and crappy display on the R3 M14x with haswell and 7 series gpu lol just wait and see.
     
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    I doubt it's below 40% gamut, that would make it worse than most netbook displays.
     
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    I think I read somewhere the M14x really only uses a 42% color gamut display, which is garbage. Hopefully dell will offer better quality displays for it in the next model generation.

    Yeah, it would have been so much better had they not discontinued the 17 inch MBP line and had added the high resolution retina panels to those instead. dunno why the discontinued them. Obviously they didn't sell as well as the 15 inch MBP's, but there were really solid, and a lot of people prefer more real screen real-estate. Plus the extra volume inside the chassis allows for more/larger components and better cooling.
    The Razer blade almost seems like a spiritual successor to the 17 inch MBP.
     
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    Would you pay $500 more for the 17.3" FHD IPS 100%+ Adobe gamut LCD's that are in use on the Precision 6700 workstation laptops?
     
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    Would I? No, because I like fast response times.

    I would take the cheaper upgrade to a 120hz panel though (and 3d panels require the same 50 pin data cables anyway AFAIK so it might work anyway).
     
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    After Razor released the Blade 2 with the gtx 660, I was kind of hoping that Dell/AW would release something like that but in the typical Dell/AW aesthetic style. My m11x is sitting around gather dust since I last got a desktop in august 2012. I wouldn't mind a 15 or 17 inch screen notebook with a 16:9 or 16:10 aspect ratio that is above 80% color gamut and is less than .8 inchs thick, but given the market demands, I doubt I'll see it anytime soon.
     
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    What I would really appretiate is something like M13x with regular processor whereas slim and with Thunderbolt interface. IGP is enough to power games on lowest settings (like SC2 working great on my SandyBridge i5 work notebook :) while mobile with great battery life and can play everything on desktop graphics at home.
     
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    I would, hands down. I used to own 2 elitebooks with DreamColor 1&2 (essentially same panel) and liked it very much. Even if it's a 500$ extra I'd go for it. Better yet, if it was also a 120hz panel...dreams...
     
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    How much color gamut is it on the 1080p M17x R4 anyway?
     
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    I thinking about pulling the trigger for the M14x R2 but something keeps telling me to wait for Nivdia to announce the 700m series in CES this week and Haswell is rumoured to be released in march/april. That means a R3 could very likely be introduced in the summer, Argh. Should I just wait a couple more months?

    I know it'll be an improvement but I'm just wondering how much of an improvement the R3 will be compared to the R2. Not knowing is absolutely killing me. I made a mistake earlier with not going through with the M11x R3 and to wait for an R4 only to find out that the M11x R3 was discontinued.

    I can't help knowing a newer model is just round the corner. [Which in the world of tech is always true.] But in this case the potential positive of an R3 far outweigh the R2. Such as potentially an improved screen, fan system and no cd drive, maybe even a touchscreen?. Whilst all rumors and speculation, if any of them even turn out to be true... arghh. Bit of a dilemma here. Cause I know whatever model I buy, I'm gonna stick with it for a minimum of the 3 years I spend in Uni.
     
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    They need to bring the m15x back

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    To be honest there will always be better hardware constantly, just buy when you feel that the price/performance/longevity will be acceptable to you. Your choice, just make sure you get the best price possible.
     
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    I'm sure there will be a new revision 4 or 5 months from now
     
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    Think we will finally have a redesign?

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    Damn, the razer edge gaming tablet is NICE! Most powerful tablet on earth, and arguably one of the most powerful tech products per square inch.
    options include:
    i5 or i7 ivybridge processor. the i5 clock up to 2.6 Ghz and the i7 clocks up to 3.0 Ghz
    4 or 8 gigs of 1600 Mhz ram
    Nvidia 640m GPU
    64/128/256 GB of SSD storage
    full windows 8
    10,1 inch 720p HD IPS 10 point touch display
    Intel WLAN (802.11b/g/n + BT4) wireless
    A usb 3.0 port
    bluetooth 4.0
    2 megapixel front facing camera
    Dobly digital 7.1 surround sound
    etc...
    It is .8 inches thick and weighs 2 lbs (same as the MS surface pro). Battery life is being touted as 8 for normal use and 2-4 when gaming (you can get an extended battery that will double the life, so 16 for normal use, and 4-8 for gaming), and has a unibondy aluminum shell.

    Peripherals include a stand that basically turns it into a living room console, and lapdock with an extended battery, and nun chuck handle controllers.

    the base has a the i5, 4 GB of ram, 640, 64GB of SSD space and starts at 999$. The pro starts at 1300$ and has the i7, 8GB of ram, and 128 GB of SSD space (upgradable to 256), and the same 640. The other features are the same on both.

    I think Alienware really needs to make their own gaming tablet. Dell has much better supply chains than razer has, so they could make one with the same, or even better specs for less money. Razer is currently the only player in the gaming tablet space, and it likely wont stay that way forever. Dell/AW has a chance to establish themselves in a new market before it gets to crowded and should do it immediately.
     
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    they would probably make money off from it too.. but I will not buy one. most of the games I play requires mouse and keyboard, controller type is acceptable but limits a lot of desktop games.
     
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    its expensive as hell though for a tablet ($1000 for the base model, $1300 for the flagship). Plus the laptop dock isn't coming out to Q3, so good luck trying to game on that thing. For the cost of their flagship model I could get a pretty nice M14x that would smoke that thing. And people say alienwares are crazy expensive? :rolleyes:
     
  28. Defengar

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    Is thing is more portable than the m14x though. Th m11x was on par, but for some reason Dell cut that.

    Its not expensive for what it is. Ultrabooks with comparable specs run the same price, and the only tablets that come close to it in power (the surface pro and the samsung i5 tablt) are 900$ and they don't even have an integrated graphics chip, have lower battery life, and don't have as good of front facing camera.

    Think about what this thing does with peripherals. Its a tablet, an ultrabook, a console, a steambox, a low end gaming laptop, and and a hand held console.

    NO OTHER DEVICE CAN DO THAT
     
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    I read somewhere April 20th or something (21st maybe) is when last years models came out, so expect news soon and new models by May, maybe April. :D
     
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    Yep, once haswell and the next gen GPUs come out.
     
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    For what it is, I agree that is not a very good price to performance value. I have a difficult time understanding the attraction to small, low-powered gaming devices. Difference in personal preference, I suppose. The thought of gaming on a small laptop or a tablet does not have appeal personally. Cramped screen, cramped (or no keyboard) and compromised performance just does not scream "beast" at me. It does not bother me that there is a difference in preference, it's just the compromise of performance and functionality that I struggle trying to understand. It would seem better to spend more money on a truly powerful system and spend like $199 (or less) for an Android tablet instead compromising everything on an expensive yet underpowered device that's not really good at anything except being small.
     
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    Not to criticize, just trying to start a debate, but if you go back 10 years that argument could be made almost word for word about laptops and desktops. I look forward to the day when I have a 10in or so full power tablet that I can take everywhere with peripherals to adapt it to whatever I may want to do. Then when I get home I plug into a dock, or better yet wireless, and sit down at my desk and there is my monitor, keyboard, ect all ready to go. I won't be buying one but it's a really good first try for what they are trying to accomplish. I give mad props to razer for being innovative, however if that thing had a 680m in it right now and could give 10 hours normal use and 5 hours gaming use then I'd be all over it. The future is looking pretty cool, probably won't even take 10 years either.
     
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    I hope we get modular devices, so I have a high powered graphics card that i can just plug into my notebook at home that gives me full performance but I don't have to take around with me.

    With the likes of GT3 graphics from intel I would have reasonable integrated graphics for going around.

    Thunderbolt and modularity I hope is the future.
     
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    No need to argue or debate. As I said, it is a matter of personal preference. Value is defined by the individual. It will be a happy day for the people that like those small devices when they can perform like today's powerful but larger devices. If they don't throw the baby out with the bathwather and keep making huge beasts that get more and more powerful, then everyone can be happy. I would like to see it expanded downward for those that want it, but continue on every level and see a similar distance in performance between them maintained. No reason for anyone to compromise or be left out. A tablet that runs like my M18x does now and a liquid cooled M18x laptop (or larger) equivalent that runs like a GTX 690 Tri-SLI 3970X powered beast and we would all be in heaven.
     
  35. Defengar

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    the draw of this is its a 10 inch device you can throw in your backpack or briefcase without a second thought that can play WoW or BF3 without issue wherever you are. You ever tried pulling an m18x out and using it on airplane or a train or bus comfortably? Yeah... anything larger than a 14-15 inch device is a pain in the butt or even impossible to use.
     
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    In First Class it's not a problem using the M18x. I do it all the time, and frequently get the free upgrades to First Class. In coach, I find that even my Mini 9 is too large to use comfortably. This is especially true when the idiot sitting in front me decides to take a nap and lays his head in my lap, then there's not even enough room for my Android phone. Man, is that ever annoying. I wish all plane seats were locked in the full upright position and could not recline. Then there would be enough room for most computers to be used.

    I could see having something like portable tablet device that in addition to my M18x, but not instead of it. I don't know that I would pay $1,000 for it, since I would only use it when a better option was not readily available. I have the Mini 9 and Android phone, so I do have small and light options available. Both play movies and music, and that would be about the extent of my interest. I just don't like using them because I find their smallness (and the touch screen interface on the phone) to be unpleasant. I am a speed typer, so both of them make me inefficient.
     
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    I would never say something like the razer edge could or should full replace something like the m18x or other large, powerful notebooks. But tablets do have their place, especially one this powerful. There is also the unfortunate fact that the more powerful and large your system is, the more expensive it is. Attracting thieves and unwanted eyes. Getting an edge stolen would suck hard core, but I can't even imagine how horrible it would be to get a 4 grand M18x swiped.
     
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    Yep, that would blow chunks. Big time. Need to have it insured, just like the car. Lojack for Laptops also doesn't hurt. Depending on where I lived and how I used it, I think I would even insure the $1,000 tablet against theft. It's not very expensive. You can even insure a smartphone, LOL.

    I started using this company back when I first purchased my Dell XPS M1730... was like $65 year for $4,000 replacement cost coverage.

    Laptop, Desktop, Tablet, iPad, iPhone and PDA/Smartphone Insurance and Warranty from Safeware
     
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    When do the new (2013) Alienware Notebooks start to show up? Or at least when will we start hearing something about them?
    Specifically the M17x and M18x.


    Also, Is it possible they can have the option of getting one without the DVD drive?
     
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    I hope so... Nah lol i dont think they offer their products without DVD drive it would be sux -IMO
     
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    Once we get a wee bit closer to the haswell launch, it's likely intel are keeping everyone under tight wraps at the moment.
     
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    I don't see any reason to come out with R5's until the next gen GPUs come out. At the moment there is not a single component that is newer than what is available on the R4... so maybe first things we'll see are R4's with the first GTX 700m & Radeon 8000m GPU's, and the R5 coming out when new CPU's or something come out as well, along with the next gen flagships of AMD and Nvidia or whatever goes down. I am clueless when it comes to these things though. Just speculating :D
     
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    If I remember correctly, Haswell should be out around June/July. Notebook manufacturers usually coincide their new releases with Intel's new processors, so like Meaker said we will probably be getting details in a few months. I doubt that AMD and Nvidia will have released their 700/8000 flagships before then; we probably won't see them in r4s.

    The wait is driving me nuts though lol. I'm so tempted to just sell my Sager and get an M17x R4 with a 680m, but I really want a Haswell cpu.
     
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    What does Haswell have the ivy doesn't that you want?

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    +1

    10char..
     
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    I' m sure he just wants it just to have it to say he has the latest snd newest tech and for bragging rights.
     
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    Isn't that what everyone wants? :D
     
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    Eh.. Brag to who. You can be sure most people we know outside this community don't know what a cpu is.

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    With my current laptop, I'm stuck with Ivy Bridge cpus. They're great processors, but Haswell and and Broadwell will offer better performance and efficiency than Ivy Bridge. If I upgrade to Haswell, I'm not limited to the processors that are currently out. I could upgrade again to Broadwell the following year if I wanted to, instead of having to find a more powerful Ivy Bridge on the used market.

    As for having the "latest and greatest," yeah, of course I do. Seriously, who doesn't? If you can afford it, why not upgrade every year and always get the best the mobile market has to offer?

    Oh, and ddr4 ram. That'll be nice too.
     
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