Are there any new Alienware models in the works? [Speculations and Wish List]

I doubt you will be able to upgrade from haswell to broadwell. It will probably be just like going from sandy-bridge to ivy-bridge. They are physically compatible, but companies aren't going to provide the bios updates for it to work.

 

I heard broadwell chip are going to be soldered to the motherboard and you cant upgrade them.. i heard most haswell chips might be the same..

 

intel quickly retracted that statement and said that there will be chips like that, but they will still cater to the enthusiast market as well with removable processors.

 

I think that DDR4 will be coming with Broadwell and Haswell EP- but EP will probably never find its way into a laptop
EP is designed for big data, supercomputers, etc- and has a TDP starting at 120W. There's the entire laptop power budget right there, and you don't even have integrated graphics...And it will release after (or at about the same time as) Broadwell.

Sorry

 

lol bummer. Shows how much I actually know about this stuff

Well, I may just end up getting an M17x with a 680m and 3740qm. The cheapest I've seen is from powernotebooks.com (they have the 1080 screen standard, so you save 150 bucks there) but do you guys think I could get a better deal from Dell? I've read about how the representatives will often give price discounts if you contact them by phone.

 

Why wait for Haswell and Broadwell if you can wait for Maxwell with an IGP as fast as the current GTX 680m in 2025.

 

I'm personally waiting for haswell as my current system does ok for everything I need it to do. I'd rather wait for the Nvidia 780m or whatever the flagship card is called when its released instead of grabbing a 680m system now.

 

And i shall be green with envy.
Cant believe my rig is nearly 2 years old.

 

my good old 6990/2630qm are starting to show their age unfortunately, Crazy that my 6990m is still double as powerful as the 460m that I originally started with.

 

I'm still happy with the rig in my sig 485Ms are still beasts.

 

Well, I couldn't wait. Ordered the laptop in my sig today, should be here before the end of the month lol.

 

Congrats on the new system dude

 

The biggest thing about Haswell is the much improved idle power usage. Intel has dumped a ton of R&D into this because it's the groundwork for their future low power chips that will make it into phones in a few years. At the very least, you can expect improved battery life with Haswell.

 

With what's going on at Dell, there's a real possibility that there may be no 2013 Alienware's.

If Dell sells everything off, how long will it take? I really don't know. How quickly did HP dissolve Voodoo PC?

Nervous about our fave PC makers future.

 

as far as i'm concerned, PC is already dead if you have to buy it with windows 8. i got my hopes up on the
next gen PS and Xbox though.

 

ehh your going to be looking at outdated hardware. I have read from several sources that at least the next gen xbox will be make up of off the shelf components to keep the price down. So PC gaming will still come out ahead.

 

yes PC hardware performance will always be ahead. but even after more then 6 months, AMD still doesn't have a decent driver that goes
with their cutting-edge hardware. Nvidia isn't as bad but only if you shell out extra grand or so. even at today's inflated game prices,
extra $1000 buys you a lot of games

by no means, PC gaming will disappear. but the paradigm is shifting and i'm beginning to care less and less

 

At least generally PC games are cheaper than console games

 

my $300 6990m has been doing pretty good. Haven't ever really had any game breaking issues with it tbh, but maybe that is just me.

 

Hmm, not sure why we started a new discussion for future product questions and speculation.

Merged with established thread.

 

What the hell dude? Why did you make a pretty much lateral change?

 

he decided to join the dark side.

 

bigtony is a smart guy

I've always wanted an Alienware; it's not that I had major buyer's remorse with the NP9150 and 7970m, I just wanted more. A gorgeous M17x with a 3740QM and awesomely overclockable 680m is a worthy upgrade imo. Also, switchable graphics suck

 

Optimus is a lot more mature than enduro

But the M17x has a lot of nice features, I might look into the alien side for my next purchase. I just wish there was a proper powerhouse system in the 15" range.

 

Nothing yet , AW is taking their sweet time to even sneak peek their new systems , BRING A LIQUID COOLING OPTION PLEASE ! or at least better screens for gaming sake !

 

Uhh what?

I've never seen a more beautiful screen in my life.

 

Then you haven't seen a lot of screens.

For a laptop screen, it's probably above-average. For a $2-5,000 laptop, it's decidedly bad. Precision workstations get the option of matte IPS displays, why can't Alienware machines?

 

I don't want to sell my arm for a screen

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who wants your arm??? Kidney is where it's at!

 

........... -.- IPS screens

uff, can't even tell a damn difference. All I know is this display is BEAUTIFUL

 

Even some non IPS screens can be amazing. Ever seen a properly calibrated 95% color gamut LED screen? Holy hell they are beautiful.

 

Mr Wolf - I'm with you. I saw a mockup someone did with an m18x, with a liquid cooling system. I'd love to see them go that route, and really close the gap between our hardware, and the desktops.

 

I'd be glad if they brought in swappable aluminium cases and did away with the optical and made it thinner and lighter ..within reason of course .....

They could increase the alienware accessories by a AW 'branded"optical BDR

Ps I do wish there was a way to get a LCD back panel made in Alu like the one for the m18 but for the m17

 

my m18x screen is above average for general laptop screen but dosent compare to my 95%gamut i had on my clevo or (i guess)apples retina display on there macbooks(may they burn in hell)

 

Some fast response IPS screens would be a nice addition on the higher end machines...... why people like making steps backwards in displays I will never know.

 

The new revisions last year got announced around april 20th, I got my m14xr2 on the 8th of may. Lets see what they offer

Better graphics card?
Better screen?
New design?
Who knows?

 

Except that the market has stagnated a bit since this time last year, especially with the next generation of consoles on the way. These changes most-likely won't affect the mobile market as much as the PC space, but I think we will see some slowdown. I wouldn't expect anything before the end of Q2. Not fact or anything, just an educated guess.

 

I'm thinking two would be ideal (or maybe a good start?). It would be fairly affordable to put a 64gb MSATA into each slot and run the OS on one and program files and/or games on the other.

You can trim Windows 8 OS down to about 12-13gb for the Pro x64 version (by turning off hibernation and moving the pagefile.sys to another drive).

I've installed Sims 3 with every expansion pack imaginable and it uses 24gb.

I know Creative Suite Master Collection is probably just as big. So, I guess if you're a hardcore user, you could put a 96gb or 128gb SSD into that 2nd MSATA slot.

Either way, having a secondary MSATA slot would be a huge game changer for the laptop world and a huge win for Alienware!

Dell's probably working with Intel as we speak on the new Haswell machines to be released sometime late 2013 or early 2014. If there's enough response, I think they would seriously consider adding this to the next gen Alienwares!

Although, the downside would mean that I'd have to sell my current Alienware to get the new dual MSATA ones. :/

 

1 is enough I think, it its only going to be a mSATA ssd put there probably (for me anyways), rather have another SATA slot, generally the full size SSD is slightly better and cheaper than a mSATA profile SSD. 1 decent size HDD plus a SSD or 2 would be fine for me like.

 

I agree, but for the reduction in size and weight, MSATA fits the bill. The M17x and M18x are already monsters as they are and already come with dual SATA, but the M14x wouldn't have enough room to accommodate another SATA.

MSATA SSD drives are also dropping in price. You can get a 64gb for $73. That's pretty much on par with 64gb SATA SSD drives.

Adding an MSATA would add very little to the laptop's overall dimensions and weight but would be a huge boost to its storage performance. If you wanted really killer performance, you could create a RAID array from the dual MSATA SSD drives.

Actually, that's probably what I would do now that I think about it!

Maybe someday, we'll get to here:



The only way Sony could fit quad SSD's into a laptop the size of an netbook (the Z series is really THAT tiny!) was to use MSATA SSD drives. If they used quad 2.5" SSD drives, the laptop would be huge, thick and probably heavy as well.

I'm not asking for much, no quad (no yet). Just dual MSATA with RAID would be great to start with!

Although, now that I think about it some more, $73 x 4 = $288 for a 256gb Quad-RAID0 setup sounds pretty enticing! And that's more than enough space to load Win 8 Pro x64 + Adobe + a shiz load of games. But, it would be nice to see some benchmarks testing a Quad RAID0 vs Single SSD setup.

 

You missed quieter fan or fans with dual cooling. If the new G46 can do it and it weighs 1lb lighter and runs a gtx 660m, the m14x can do it too.

 

I never understood why mSata exists.

What's wrong with SATA III and SSD's stuff in them? (this sounds cynical and it is a bit also ^^ but underneath is a serious question actually, I don't understand msata or why it exists, what it does what sata III doesn't etc)

 

There's no reason for mSATA other than its space saving form factor. You can fit one of them such a small space that it allows more drive bays and it fits with the current fad of thin and light notebooks. Many of the mSATA SSD drives perform exactly the same as their full-sized counterparts, so there is no downside other than having one extra interface to put up with, and less flexibility with purchase options.

 

Ah. That clearify's some stuff for me at least. I was always under the impression mSata was a cheaper alternative for cheaper drives then SSD, but that doesn't seem the case.

So mSATA is bound to surpass Sata III eventually, as it's about the same speed, but smaller drives?

 

think macbook air and intel ultrabook and there you go.

 

Considering that they're not offering Windows8 with Alienware laptops, and Win8 being made for tablets, touchscreen support is kinda mandatory on laptops.
Is there any news from Dell on implementing touchscreen on Alienware laptops?

 

They do offer windows8!!!

 

To be honest, I don't see the big point in having touch in a gaming laptop/ The only time I had a need for a touch screen on a laptop, is when I had to draw anatomy and cell structures and then I would rather have a tablet like Samsung. So I don't think there is a market for touchscreen high-performance gaming laptops. Just my 2 cents

 

I can see Alienware experimenting with it, perhaps on the M17x, mainly because that laptop has had a special screen for years compared to others. I'm sure they'd try to get a 120Hz touch screen going, that can be enabled and disabled whenever you like. I don't like the idea, but I'm sure they'll at least try it once to see how it goes. (Could be on any system, but my guess is the M17x.) For some tasks, touch screens are nice. But definitely not for gaming.

 

I don't like seeing fingerprints on my screen for the same reasons I don't like watching people pick their nose, or scratch their private places... disgusting. Plus, it's extremely inefficient when a keyboard is available. I agree with CobraPizza... there's simply no point in having it on a laptop, especially a high performance gaming system. Hopefully, they won't introduce that on any of their machines. If they do, they will have to ditch the edge-to-edge display, and I would not be pleased about that.

I will put this in the Alienware speculation thread since it is speculation.