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    Are there any new Alienware models in the works? [Speculations and Wish List]

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by YAYTech, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. vs3074

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    I know dell has a huge profit margin on individual parts. But it's not the discussion about what laptops these guys want, my point is IF dell choose to supply de net lcds in alienware systems, it will only increase sales. The guys I am talking about don't want bargain basement inspirons or budget xps laptops, they want top teir laptops with most powerful CPUs and top teir build qualities. Precision does fill that niche but again dell doesn't sell those in Australia to everyone, you need to be a giant corporation or a government organisation to get a precision, or pray to god one turns up on outlet.

    Dell's management is becoming hopeless in Australia, first no bluray writers in alienware lineup and now no more xm CPUs in anything except m18xr2.

    And on the point of LCD, well how many of us paid extra to get 1920x1200 LCD on r2? It can only increase profit margin for dell, especially considering no one and I mean no one is offering a 17"+ 90%-95% gamut LCD in a laptop with decent build quality.

    And for the point of alienware, I want the best LCD possible in my alienware, period. Nothing else matters, I pay big bucks for my alienware systems and I want literally the best, no compromises.
     
  2. Prolixious

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    Low demand among those who play games for 95% gamut screens doesn't prevent Clevo/MSI from offering them. I know, I know, Dell is a large company with high operating costs. It shouldn't be hard to justify a decent 72% gamut matte screen (stock on same Clevos and MSIs). I think that is the least we can ask for at the price Alienware charges. If Alienware is ready to innovate, it can offer 95% gamut screens. IPS for gaming? I don't know, but that would be a good way to crush the competition.

    The most frustrating thing about these models is that if Alienware wanted to do something new, it could leave its competitors in the dust, and the price premium (pricier than low-end Dell Precision by the way) might be reasonable then.

    But then Alienware would stagnate again because of the lack of competition...
     
  3. dab89

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    out of interest...with the new haswell chips supposedly offering fairly good gaming capabilities...would Alienware not be able to have a M11-13x typa offering like that whilst at same time making it very thin and sexy? I know id rather get that + desktop then an m18x i think.
     
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    That sort of performance is still suited to a dell machine rather than alienware.
     
  5. thedreadroberts

    thedreadroberts Notebook Enthusiast

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    The swiss developer of the Alienware Notebook Series was seriously ill. Now he is back:
    Schnuffel is back
    Next new product in line:
    "M14x R3"
     
  6. APE$

    APE$ Notebook Geek

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    what does this article say i cannot read german or whatever language its written in
     
  7. thedreadroberts

    thedreadroberts Notebook Enthusiast

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    The developer of the hardware of all recent Alienware Notebook Series had neck/throat cancer. Now he is again reasonably healthy and working hard on the new M14x R3 (the first device in the new series). The hardware is completed. However, the hardware developer is not satisfied with the quality of new body/chassis design. This will be negotiated.
     
  8. APE$

    APE$ Notebook Geek

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    hmmm what do you think that means he doesn't like the design or the quality? oh and im glad hes back to health i cry about the flu i can only imagine
     
  9. thedreadroberts

    thedreadroberts Notebook Enthusiast

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    Quality. There is a whole thread in the german forum with a few specs of the new alienware series - a way to much to translate, because my english is very bad. Perhapse someone else with better skills?
    M14x R2 Successor - The real Story
     
  10. APE$

    APE$ Notebook Geek

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    dude if this stuff is true this forum needs and deserves this info ive been translating some of this on google translate and man its juicy stuff help us out brooooooooo

    @ Soundz:
    There is a new Schnuffel m17 chassis at the Lab. This thing has two GPUs again .... And if that is approved by Dell, the m18 is the rip sells eh not good and good displays for the m18's eh not really. It's not a groesse that you get at every newsstand!

    Hey everybody last night thedreadroberts im guessing a native german speaker posted a link to a german forum so i will google translate it and see what we get

    M14x R2 Successor - The real Story - Seite 2

    there's the link
     
  11. netinbd

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    i nothing understand from translator :(
     
  12. APE$

    APE$ Notebook Geek

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    Im sorry man i tried my best well google did but we need a native german speak fluent in english to translate

    from what i understood this is an engineer type guy who configure and stuff and he is talking about the redesigns
    he said some stuff about a new screen being on par with the fabled rgb display theses guys on here always type about ....also he says he has a prototype for the m17x that had dual gpus if this model is approved goodbye aka rip m18x but i maybe misreading and over stepping my self we need helpp NBR HALP HALP ME JEEBUZ

    he also mentions about high quality 18 inch screens being rare or not produced i think
     
  13. general dan

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    You understand nothing, because it is bad german... :p
     
  14. APE$

    APE$ Notebook Geek

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    do you know what it says?
     
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    I don't think september would make sense for a release, 3 months after haswell is missing the boat a bit.
     
  16. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

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    +1 they will be losing sales if they don't keep up with the rest of the competition.
     
  17. trooper1414

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    I am not sure if people posted this here but alienware confirmed a launch event (they called it big news ...i would like to think it's a launch/show case event)at e3 ... Which is first or second week of June ...so expect the models to be launched then...Which will come right after the haswell launch

    Link for your reference http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/05/06/alienware-teases-big-news-for-e3

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
     
  18. bigtonyman

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    Alienware's E3 "Big News" on 06/10/2013: Save the Date
     
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    I tried the translation from german to english....See if anyone gets any idea now

    So where to begin because Snuffles??
    So all over again ....

    Snuffles has indeed thought after a long break, we start times from scratch.
    So not as R2 - just take selbiges chassis as the R1 and then a new MB.
    So what comes next 14-inch model from Alienware is a 100% new development. So even chassis keyboard etc ... Simply everything new.


    And now begins Schnuffels great suffering. The parts are pitched in recent weeks with Snuffles. Hmmm. The MB is good. The display - well, three of the standing screens are useful for evaluation, one of them really well, the rest is good for the trash.
    But the housing.
    So huge amount Groan .... Snuffles the thing wanted to have something lighter and technically flexible. But without compromise in stability. For example, the base is formed so that it forms not only the bottom of the device, but at the sides is slightly raised.

    In the implementation that is until today so that Snuffles found here: mass gap as the Trabi. So back to the sender. And again, think about whether you should really take 1mm 0.1mm where Snuffles is characterized ...

    Yes, we speak times over the keyboard. A sore spot with every notebook. Snuffles has thought that one could make the keyboard of the M14x better by giving you the keys similar to those of the M11x forms - each key slightly shallower and large-area, while the unused space DECREASED.
    So this is the magic word: REDUCE, not eliminate them. Well, that have not properly understood the Chinese. The key now scrape together when you slight angle arises.
    And yes, Snuffles is still fighting for the TFT in touchpad ... But if some gentlemen at Dell bit too expensive.

    Well, what's else is new:
    Snuffles want the GTX titanium have it. For this, the whole Kuehlkonzept has changed.

    Next there will be a display with a much higher resolution (similar to Apple's Retina things). And as far as the brightness of the new high end displays you can look forward times already. We will get close in the display quality (the high end) of the famous RGB LED display on the M17xR1.
    3D comes in 14 "not the display is too small for it. This is then the 15 ".
    Well, the battery power will be adjusted .





    The translation is bad & we say bad German because its not entirely pure German language used by him while typing the msg but instead its Spanish-German mix....So, moral is no translating software can translate 2 languages to one......Hence, while reading we will just have to make out few words on our own or have someone who is Spanish & knows the German language well enough to sit and do the whole translation...

    Lets hope M18x Doesn't get sacked because M17X returning dual GPU Support.......Heard this (May be rumor as well).

    Lets wait till first week of June for the big event....
     
  20. vs3074

    vs3074 Notebook Evangelist

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    Well this sounds great and super crap as well because my insurance processed M18xR2 for me, so getting a crappy display :(

    But if M17x does come back with dual GPU support and a decent lcd (aka M17xR1/R2 1920x1200 RGB) then I am selling my future M18x and buying a M17x R5 :)

    Need to get snuffles to give more info about M17x ;)
     
  21. bumbo2

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    Where is the link for that inf. I speak Spanish?
     
  22. Serephucus

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    That information was in German. ;)
     
  23. bumbo2

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    Oh ok didn't know.
     
  24. Marvin17

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    cant wait to find out about whats new on alienware! :)
     
  25. Serephucus

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    I've just discovered my Step-Up (for my desktop GPU) expires on the same day Alienware's new line-up is due to launch. Feck.
     
  26. Serephucus

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    I personally don't really care about thickness at all really. Maybe in 14" and below type stuff, but 17"? It's the size of a big bread board. Making it 1" thick instead of 1.5" thick isn't going to change that. It'll still be a massive thing to lug around. I'd rather see a thicker laptop with better speakers, or more cooling, than a thin laptop. Given that the XPS 17 (replacement, that isn't nearly as good as the older model) comes with a 650M, it's not like it's a slouch in games to begin with anyway. Just get that.

    [Ignore that, responded to a different post]
     
  27. raiden87

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    Actually there are 2 Threads now in the German Forum:
    1. is about the new m14x:
    - The new M14x is able to provide enough Cooling for a yet not released Geforce Titan M
    - It will be much more cooler, since he redesigned the whole chassis and haswell has many Components, which were normaly on the
    Mainboard, in the CPU
    - the internals are not exchangable, all will be fixed.

    2. is about the new M17x
    - the new M17x starting GPU is a GTX780m
    - the chassis will be like the R1/R2 in full magnesium alloy again
    - there are plans for dual GPU support again
    - the m18x is likely dead (sold not very good)

    the other stuff relating to the m14x or m17x is already been posted... Ah and there will be a new M15x again :) its like the m14x but with exchangable internals (like the m17x now: GPU, battery.....)
     
  28. Serephucus

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    Bull. There's no way in hell the base model will come with a 780M. Not unless Dell thinks a laptop starting price of $2,500 is a good idea. Also, there's no way the M14x will be able to suddenly dissipate 130W of heat, when the last generation could only handle 65W. Really? And M15x, as well as an M14x? LOL

    I call troll, or someone very naive.
     
  29. steviejones133

    steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    What a load of old rubbish. Someone needs to come back down to earth and take their head out the clouds LOL
     
  30. lif3t4k3r

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    So the M14x is going to have a GPU based on one of the fastest production desktop GPU's fixed into it but the M15x is going to have exchangable GPU's? That makes absolutely no sence.

    And +1 on the 780m being base GPU a load of hogwash... everyone knows the 8970m will be the base and the 780m will have a $1000 premium slapped on it.
     
  31. dab89

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    what will be in between? just 2 options + SLI? or will 680, 675 etc still be available?
     
  32. steviejones133

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    I'd imagine that there will be some cheaper/less potent gpu solution on offer that either 8970m or 780m. Doesn't make much sense just to offer only the flagship cards from each manufacturer. Not sure what it will be but I reckon there will be something else to choose from, not just those two.
     
  33. lif3t4k3r

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    I wasn't taking it literally, was more taking a stab at the fact there is no way the 780m can be the base when the 8970m is almost definitely going to be at least $1000 cheaper.

    I am tipping there will be a lesser single GPU option, hell my M18x shipped with just a single 660m.
     
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    Where did you pluck $1000 from?
     
  35. steviejones133

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    The base gpu might be ~$1000 cheaper than 780m Sli, going by existing configurations offered on the 18x. I can't see Dell pricing the 780m Sli option at much more than the current, what was it, $1100 over a single 660m? - my money would be on a similar disparity that we see now between 7970m and 680m....about twice as much greens for the green team, meaning if the 780m Sli is priced at, say, $1200 over base, the 8970m x/f will set you back around $600.

    Speculation, of course, based on current pricing.
     
  36. raiden87

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    call me troll as much as u like... i just wanted to do u americans a favor by translating the two GERMAN threads....
    ... which were started bei schnuffel, btw the swiss head engineer for alienware!

    Der nächste 17 Zoll Alien

    M14x R2 Successor - The real Story

    and for all the trouble about the m17x gpu... its the release starting gpu... more will follow
    AND i didnt say the m14x will get a titan gpu, i said since the whole redesign it is capable of cooling it, not it will get one in..
     
  37. steviejones133

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    I'm not American, but man, give it a rest. Snuffles or Schnuffel (whoever that dude really is) is certainly not a AW head engineer of anything. If he was, do you REALLY think he would be leaking details on a public forum that would get him fired from his job? :rolleyes:
     
  38. APE$

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    this is a speculation thread why are people so butt hurt when others speculate? anyways we will see when the pc's come out simple as that

    its unfortunate this community isn't as friendly as I thought it was because it is an awesome place or so it seemed
     
  39. steviejones133

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    Merely pointing out the fact that an article supposedly written by a head AW engineer is pure BS. NDA's would be in place and any info leaked would result in severe job consequences. Unless that "head engineer" had career suicide in mind, it's total garbage.

    This is a friendly community, but we also don't suffer fools gladly. No offence to anyone intended.
     
  40. shompa

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    Do you think next Alienware laptops will have 802.11AC ? I would love a 3 antenna model. Theoretical speed of over 1.6Gbps. Faster than gigabit Ethernet.

    *please please* (praying to the wireless gods)

    You are probably right. But different companies have different policies. All companies including the super secretive Apple uses controlled leaks. Sure.. They don't just post on some random board :)

    Stuff/Parts usually leaks from China month before release of anything made there.

    When I worked for Ericsson (when they were among the top 3 cellphone companies in the world) they handed out prototypes 6-12 month before launch to consultants and some employes. Random non-employed people running around with clear prototypes.

    Compare that with Apple and Iphone. They send out prototypes to all their cell partners in the world before the release for validation/verification reasons.
    These are locked boxes with only the screen seen. Usually with a filter on so that you have to watch the screen straight on, and cant see anything from the side.

    When I had Ericsson prototypes: I didn't have to sign any NDA. Maybe they thought it was included to the standard employee contract that we were not allowed to share "company secrets".

    I could write a book about Ericsson and how they went from more or less inventing the cell phone, market leader to going out of business. Hiring ex Microsoft boss (like Nokia did), having 17 old consultants that haven't finished school that made 4 times the money that the employees did.

    So maybe simple some angry Dell employees that don't like the buyout and simply post some stuff on a forum?
     
  41. vs3074

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    Whatever everyone says or feels, snuffles is a successful troll :p
     
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    Nice find, firstly. It looks like the info is not quite what we would expect, as triple drive was already an option on the 18x and 675m is "old hat" when it comes down to new revisions. Same kind of thing could be said about the M17xR5 and it's Wiki write-up. If it were accurate, it would be mentioning 4th gen. cpu's as opposed to 3rd gen. Ivybridge cpu's......

    The wait continues! LOL
     
  44. Hybrys

    Hybrys That Damn Cactuar!

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    Hilariously inaccurate.
     
  45. Serephucus

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    Got rid of those edits. Hilariously inaccurate, but also quite misleading.
     
  46. elevul

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    Soooo, MSI just announced the GT60, with a "3k" screen, but sadly the specs are far too small to be able to play games at that res. Do you think Alienware is gonna put that screen in a gaming notebok anytime soon?
     
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    We know alienware is sticking with the 14/17/18 lineup again.
     
  48. Hybrys

    Hybrys That Damn Cactuar!

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    Now all we have to wonder is if there is an 18" 1440p/1620p/2160p LCD out there, which I highly doubt.
     
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    Precisely, i was referring to the 18". I am not sure the 1620p screen is very readable on a 15.5" screen.
     
  50. SOS4DELL

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    We actually work (heavy and happily) with many ("old-fashion") 15.5" 1920x1200... (we also have some 17.3" with the same "old-fashion" resolution).
    When we need we always can zoom the level... and @ 125% there is no problem at all.
    Some of my colleagues do product design, others do CAD, electronic designs, picture and video / movie editing, etc.
    It's a matter of habit, practice, whatever you can call it. ;)
     
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