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    Cheapest QX9300?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by bifnewman, Jun 23, 2009.

  1. Ovrclck350

    Ovrclck350 Notebook Consultant

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    The one in the link posted on Page 14 has an S-spec of QAJF, but doesn't say the stepping. I'd PM the seller and ask about it before I bought it.

    Ask for a picture of CPUID and HWMonitor if possible to verify the stepping and the availability of temp sensors.
     
    Ovrclck350, Jun 24, 2009
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  2. bifnewman

    bifnewman Notebook Evangelist

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    the QX9200 i was looking at before was QAJF... I found shirley's selling for $299 or best offer with free shipping... shirley's is QAVS so it has the temp sensor right?
     
    bifnewman, Jun 24, 2009
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    fastlappy Notebook Evangelist

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    just a quick note.....got shipping info from shirleys within 12 hrs of purchase!! And they through in some thermal paste! Can't wait to get it! GL to all...
     
    fastlappy, Jun 24, 2009
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    QAJF is C0, QAVS is E0.
     
    kaltmond, Jun 24, 2009
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  5. bifnewman

    bifnewman Notebook Evangelist

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    so i should probably go with shirley's then?
     
    bifnewman, Jun 24, 2009
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    E0 is what you want, yes.....
     
    sleey0, Jun 24, 2009
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  7. bifnewman

    bifnewman Notebook Evangelist

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    ok sweet... is this an equivalent of the QX9300 with just a lower clock? makes me tempted to type in QX9300 in my sig when i buy it lol...
     
    bifnewman, Jun 24, 2009
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  8. Prodigy-man

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    Hay guys, for the shirley's QX9200, so if it is essentially QX9300, can the QX9200 be OCed to the same speeds as the QX9300 then?
     
    Prodigy-man, Jun 24, 2009
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  9. bifnewman

    bifnewman Notebook Evangelist

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    that is what i was wondering... its a much better price than Qx9300
     
    bifnewman, Jun 24, 2009
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  10. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    But it will have unlocked mult's on M17x?... THAT'S the question :p ...
    I believe that they r just checking it the processor got unlocked mult in bios programming but it can be by id...
     
    BIGX333, Jun 24, 2009
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    That's a good point, if Bios checks by ID, QX9200 /= QX9300 and then you got locked 2.4 C2Q where u could of spent $100 more and got OCed 3.0/3.2 C2Q
     
    Prodigy-man, Jun 24, 2009
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    Someone would buy it from you so you would get your money back (it's not like it wouldn't sell :))
     
    sleey0, Jun 24, 2009
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  13. bifnewman

    bifnewman Notebook Evangelist

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    aaa idk about that... maybe just go for qx9300 if i can... its got a cooler name anyway lol
     
    bifnewman, Jun 24, 2009
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  14. Ovrclck350

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    Yes, it has the multipliers unlocked, or at least Kaltmund's did.

    As for the QAVS E0, it should, as it also shows up in CPUID as Extreme.

    I'll know sometime hopefully this weekend, or middle of next week.
     
    Ovrclck350, Jun 25, 2009
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  15. bifnewman

    bifnewman Notebook Evangelist

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    yea but kaltmond used a sager didnt he? i didnt think he had an m17x
     
    bifnewman, Jun 25, 2009
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  16. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    Isn't about the processor having unlocked mult is about M17x BIOS letting you change the multiplier...
     
    BIGX333, Jun 25, 2009
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    Doesn't matter, an unlocked multiplier is an unlocked multiplier.

    It's a setting/lockout INSIDE the processor.


    I think what you're getting confused with is that EVEN with an unlocked multiplier, the BIOS of the computer still has to allow you to adjust it in order to be able to overclock.

    That was why M17 people were/are pissed with Alienware. The Alienware bios doesn't allow you to overclock on the M17, but the OCZ does.
     
    Ovrclck350, Jun 25, 2009
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  18. Ovrclck350

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    It's already been established the M17x BIOS allows you to change the multiplier.

    If it does it on one chip, it'll do it on ANY chip that has an unlocked multiplier.




    I'm not specifically addressing any one person, but if you guys don't understand multipliers, FSB, Bios, and Voltage....and how they all work together, then I HIGHLY recommend you do not overclock anything. If you do overclock without understanding all of these, then realize you forfeit the right to come cry about it when and if you fry something.
     
    Ovrclck350, Jun 25, 2009
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  19. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    Like i said... If it checks if the proc have unlocked mult (like EVERY desktop motherboard) it will work but exist a chance to be by ID (but i can't see why they would do like this lol).

    Exist a change of not working... Small? yeah but a chance :p .
     
    BIGX333, Jun 25, 2009
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  20. bifnewman

    bifnewman Notebook Evangelist

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    if there are high chances of the Q9200 having the unlocked multiplier in the M17x then I will buy it from Shirley off of ebay.... If it doesnt work Ill sell it again...
     
    bifnewman, Jun 25, 2009
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    The chances are 99%. I've only seen 3 of them, but all had unlocked multipliers and showed up as Extreme.

    Ask Shirley, or ask her if you buy it and it isn't unlocked, is there a way for a refund.



    OR>....sell it here. Someone will want it. I'll be posting the results of a P8400---->Q9200 this weekend or next week.
     
    Ovrclck350, Jun 25, 2009
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  22. bifnewman

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    yep.... i knew it was QX9200.... lol
     
    bifnewman, Jun 25, 2009
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  23. BIGX333

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    Bah... With the new Q9000 price tag this Q9200 is seducing me lol
     
    BIGX333, Jun 25, 2009
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  24. Prodigy-man

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    Please do, because your outcome will determine my purchase
     
    Prodigy-man, Jun 25, 2009
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  25. Pman

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    tbh i would just get a qx9300

    chances are they are marked as 9200 because they were unstable at 9300 speeds
     
    Pman, Jun 25, 2009
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  26. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    or they were trying to find a chip that fits between:

    Q9000
    Q9100
    Q9????
    Qx9300
     
    The_Moo™, Jun 25, 2009
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  27. Ovrclck350

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    Or it was developed and then later decided that the jump from 2.0 to 2.53 would have a higher profit margin than 2.0 to 2.4. It's easier for people to justify the extra retail price for .53 vs. .4. It's the whole "It's over a half" mentality.

    Either way, you're looking at a quad core and a chip that has 12MB of L2 cache. It's not going to be a slouch.

    You'd do good with either the 9300 or the 9200, I'm just not able to justify the extra cost for the 9300 for what I do.
     
    Ovrclck350, Jun 25, 2009
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  28. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    the point is a Q9200 is the same as Qx9300

    multipliers are unlocked and its really the same chip


    That is all i'm saying
     
    The_Moo™, Jun 25, 2009
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  29. Ovrclck350

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    Essentially for that purpose yes.

    As far as the technical specs, who knows? There's not much information on the 9200.

    It could even be the fact that upon producing the 9200, they found it was stable during mass production at 2.53 and decided to just up the clock speed on it and call it a 9300. ie. same exact chip.
     
    Ovrclck350, Jun 25, 2009
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  30. Pman

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    or it could be the reverse, made the 2.5 chip saw these were unstable and downclocked em to sell to save wastage
     
    Pman, Jun 25, 2009
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  31. bifnewman

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    ok... i dont mean to take my own thread off topic but i dont want to start a new thread so will GTX 280M SLI perform like this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA8waCvKv48
    I was trying to find out how this will perform and 280m performs like 9800gtx desktop card so sli might equal 9800gx2...
     
    bifnewman, Jun 25, 2009
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  32. BIGX333

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    QX9300 isn't a whole new project... Increasing processor frequency is more about refining the production process than projecting...

    IMO it's much more probably they just figured out that 2.53GHZ have low percent of defective units :p .

    9800gx2 is a little slower than 2 9800GTX in sli so by specs it would be a similar performance... But i don't know in real world :p
     
    BIGX333, Jun 25, 2009
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  33. Pman

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    i think you missed what i meant

    say they made 10000 qx9300's 1000 fail speed stability checks but pass at 2.4 ghz

    ta da -- q9200
     
    Pman, Jun 25, 2009
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  34. BIGX333

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    So why they didn't released Q9200? :p , at least for me looks more like that 2.53 was a low fail rate for Q9200 and they just released at 2.53 with the name QX9300 :p .

    And released Q9100 being the model for "defectives" QX9300... They just need to lock multipliers :p
     
    BIGX333, Jun 25, 2009
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  35. bifnewman

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    if i get a q9200 can i just call it a qx9300 if i can overclock with unlocked multiplier? :p
     
    bifnewman, Jun 25, 2009
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  36. BIGX333

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    A Q9200 is a Q9200 :p
     
    BIGX333, Jun 25, 2009
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  37. bifnewman

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    lol i guess
     
    bifnewman, Jun 25, 2009
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  38. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    it appears as if the topic question was answered and more.
    since the thread has gone in a different direction i am closing it.
     
    ryujin, Jun 25, 2009
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