GDDR5 = GDDR3 4870 CrossFireX confusion...any contact from Dell regarding this?

Anyone who has ever gone through a PO process knows you have to get the quote and specs up front so that it can be put through approval processes. The quote I have is the exact same and list the DDR5.
even though I am buying this privatly, I still get the quotes up front out of habit, and that is the quote I am referring to.

 

I don't see how moderators are in anyway qualified to give advise on this.

 

People like chaz deal with alienware alot more then we do and maybe they can get some inside info on this. let them know there is a full thread with alot of members going down on the forum. things like that

 

Well they might give there opinion but I wouldn't expect any more than that.

There job is to moderate a forum not give advise on how to deal with disputes between customers and suppliers.

 

Well they became moderators because they care so. but lets stay on subject. just thought i mention it, not discuss it

 

looking at this, this is probably why they stopped selling the 4850s to the m17 owners..... they just rebranded em as 4870s and flogged em on to you lot.
if alienware was a shop i swear it would have been burnt to the ground by now for the carry on they seem to have with us the customer ( they dont give a rats ) about.

 

lol...when it was discovered to be GDDR3 I was asking around for people to verify they were even 4870s.

 

Man i wish everyone could have been around when the W90 came out and i got mine .. Troll city from the M17 owners (you know who you are ) saying they were getting 4870 DDR5s everyday(litterally) and slamming on the W90 into the ground lol.. All that time later they got 4850s and nothing much was said other then M17 owners should be lucky they even got them at all haha.. Now here we are 8 months later and the 4870s hit the new flagship and there still DDR3 .. But the trolls never seemed to appear since this discovery...

You can read the W90 review comments when NBR did a review of the machine ..

Im surprised these same people are not here calling the M17x 4870s 4850s since the 4870 never had DDR3 etc..

 

We'll be talking about the 4870s for years to come. Biggest scam in GPU history.

 

Well the 4870s are still very capable cards just not everyone had hoped for.. I know if i ordered again i would no doubt buy the 4870s ..

 

At 3300 $, i was expected at last what i payed for. Now i have a laptop that get outperform by my old desktop pc. I wanted to replace all my desktop computer with this one.

 

no nothing new and from what my contact says they are treating it like not much of a issue at dell. the whole thing sucks

 

The Dell site USED to show GDDR5 on the system spec. So did my on-line invoice. I think it's completely unethical that Dell has removed that info from my invoice. Today, if you try to order the cards, GDDR is not mentioned at all.

 

Here here!

Here is a copy and paste from my e-mail confirmation

1 CrossFireX - Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870


This information was also on the web-site at the time I placed the order. It's what I ordered and paid for. It's what I ws invoiced (inclduing the invocie attached to the box when the order arrived). This is definately false advertising.

 

On the belgium site it also says GDDR5 for the moment.

 

you guys better take many many many screenshots of the site saying ddr5 before dell changes it and say that they dint put ddr5

 

i have talked with a person i know at amd/ati. they said as of now there will not be a gddr5 card from dell either at all or anytime soon... they will give no more details than that but they are reliable they have been at amd/ati for over 5 years

 

^ that's a blow to the guts !! Thanks for your input Z !

That being said, I hope that I'll be happy with the real life performance of my system's GPUs.

 

Any input on this from the ATI owners would be appreciated.

 

The 4870s are * not * a disappointment given by the benchmark numbers I ran so far.

update: It seems that AW Tech is not aware if they were GDDR5 or GDDR3, while Dell claims it GDDR5. Of course we know the answer that they are GDDR3. This has been a very confusion matter that we, the consumer, know the whole deal here and everyone else at Dell is clueless. So ashame of the company for playing dumb.

In my situation, I have given up and try to educate, Dell tech support, AW tech support and Dell CS because i get the run around while they play dumb ...again..

Since I am happy with the cards and does not want to return it, I asked for an adjustment. I Asked for $100.00 to be credited back to my account and move on.....

I should have asked for $200.00.

 

You could have probably convinced them they should be equal to the 260 SLI.

 

Mandrake, I did mentioned that it was a $400 dollars upgrade and he said he could not do it. He said you have two option, 1) get a $50.00 adjusted or 2) return it. lol...I told him, you can give me $100.00 instead.

note: I love the cards. lol

 

GDDR3 has better 3dmark and Vantage scores than GDDR5 for the 4870. GDDR3 has better thermals and can support higher clock speeds of the 4870 in a notebook. The power requirements of GDDR5 limit the 4870's potential.

Bottom line is that GDDR5 and 4870 is a terrible combo for a notebook.

 

Another reminder:

 

you are completely and utterly wrong.... the whole point of gddr5 is higher bandwidth with the same power draw and no my post is not off topic...

 

GDDR5 has twice the bandwidth of GDDR3 at lower power draw.....the bandwidth allows for a higher core OC to actually perform better and not be bottlenecked by memory

GDDR5 would be a huge help to notebooks for performance AND power usage

 

Hey guys,
I was contacted by jlpfr (owner of ATI 4870) it appears to be in
GDDR5!
He should send me a picture GPU-Z to confirm! If this continues, we can say
there was the GDDR5 DellWare in FRANCE.

 

Even better have him get the numbers off the memory chips and post it here.

 

I'll try but I can not guarantee that it wants to dismantle its alien

 

Plenty of guides on how to do it. Even videos from TheMoo.

Here's one guide: http://www.notebookforums.com/thread230093.html

I would almost guaranty people will have a hard time believing him without those numbers.

 

WHY WOULD ALIENWARE FRANCE have different GDDR5 cards than the rest of the world?

I mean... same pricing as the UK too (converting euros to GBP).

Imo, Bullocks!

 

Need proof please

thank you

 

I also look for evidence.The only thing that is certain is that the DellWare french site displays the GDDR5.dellware tells me by phone this is
GDDR5.But I believe what I see too, pending "jlpfr" for GPU-Z screan

 

Dell here in the US still claims the same also. Fortunately we know the real truth.

 

It's the combination of GDDR5 and 4870 that's the issue. They don't play nice together.

 

Do you know something here, that no one else does?

When you post such as this, could you please substantiate your claims with some sort of credible information......links?..... something! All I have read on this subject, speaks to the contrary.

Thanks!

 

That and the desktop parts (the 4870,4890,4870x2 - ALL the same GPU's - also same as the mobile parts, just lower power) play extremely well with GDDR5 no problems....

 

without getting some numbers from the cards themselves i wont believe it im afraid.

too many lies outta alienware these days

 

End of story. It definitely GDDR3, this is what I received this morning.
It is a shame and false advertising.

http://img8.hostingpics.net/pics/487088gpuz.jpg

 

Thanks for the European confirmation!

 

Time to sue dell for misadvertising. Which you can technically do, if you've got GDDDR5 on your invoice.

 

Seriously its obvious you have no clue what you are talking about....

 

Seems like Dell and alienware don't play nice together. hahaha

Damn... Did dell call someone with a solution ???

 

there is no solution. there is nothing dell will do. maybe 100$ or 200$ credit. but nothing more

 

So is it official that the 4870's are on par with SLI 280's. Which should be the way to go??

 

At this point its more of what flavor you like .. ATI or Nvidia.. Id opt for ATI though hands down because of DX10.1.. But thats just me .

 

I think there is a little advantage with the 4870's but not much...My opinion would be to buy what you prefer. I went with the ATI's because I prefer crossfire technology and ATI's over the Nvidia's. As more systems get shipped (hopefully mine!) I am sure we sill have more benchmarks to compare and maybe some in game benching. I haven't seen too much of that yet?

 

I haven been benching with a little headroom of OC on the CPU of the QX9300, and i'm satisfy with the results.

So Far the highest I have on the Benches with just OC'n the CPU to 3.0Ghz.

3DMARK06: 16388
3DMARK Vantage: P10872 - GPU:10547 - CPU:11978

I know for sure that some good ram and SSD's will boost the scores.

On a side note, I have not experience any lag or stuttering when playing games , like what the Owner of the SLI's have mentioned.

 

I will be ordering a m17x with QX9300 and Ati 4870, because in France the 280m cost 325 euros more, I think this is the best choice, except for drivers but we'll see ...
EDIT : I need some benchmark, what about crysis?Rengsey can you do that please?Thanks.

 

another lie from Aw then

Someone should start a group lawsuit against them for false advertising