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    Landfall is Expected/The Invasion!/AllPowerful.com is back

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by cha, Sep 2, 2009.

  1. Ty Haegs

    Ty Haegs Notebook Enthusiast

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    don't know if it has been stated but the 15x is no longer on AW, only the "refurbished" model... Come on wednesday!
     
  2. d motorman

    d motorman Notebook Evangelist

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    some leaked info/pics are needed
     
  3. Dio

    Dio Notebook Evangelist

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    Yup it's gone from the site first time in a month plus of checking that its been completely removed. That can only mean one thing there is in fact a new M15X on its way.
     
  4. MUMM RA

    MUMM RA Notebook Guru

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    I've been a member for a lil while just reading, but this is so exciting that I had to make my first post.

    Alienware, please let us order next week!
     
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    Bah I was interested, especially when it said "in days", but it's stretching it a bit when it's actually weeks (yes, I know weeks are made up of days) - it's just stretching how long hype can take something - especially when Clevo and HP have let out a good amount of info on their i7 systems way before AW. I know AW did a great job on the cooling system in the m17x, but I don't think the potential m15x will stand against the w860cu unless it has some new ATI gpu snuck in there
     
  6. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    Won't stand a chance? If it has i7 (99% sure it will) and a 280 it will be the same.

    Don't know where your coming from, but I would take an AW over a Clevo any day. The Dell warranty alone is worth me buying from them.

    Besides, is it really asking a lot to wait 5 more days?
     
  7. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Aw has class, that's why they hold back the surprises. Like sleey0 said, AW>Clevo. I would buy an Asus before a Clevo, I'm sorry, I cant get past the brandlessness of it, not to mention the looks.
     
  8. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    Clevo - "The Cookie-Cutter Laptop!"

    lol

    Nah, Clevo is allright. I just prefer the stout warranty that Dell provides (and I am biased in the looks dept too).
     
  9. d motorman

    d motorman Notebook Evangelist

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    so we're thinking 8 gigs of ram max? Or do you guys think aw will pull an hp and give us the ability to cram up to 16 in there?
     
  10. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    I'm ashamed to admit it, but everything I own is named brand. For me, you get what you pay for, and when you buy generic, you get less quality.
     
  11. d motorman

    d motorman Notebook Evangelist

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    I'd have to disagree with that.
     
  12. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    I'd have to disagree with that as well.

    Clevo is far from generic. Would you consider Flextronics generic?

    Because that's where your M17x comes from.....
     
  13. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Um, I have the m15x.

    Also, the m17x might have the chassis of a flextronics, but than branded with a name brand making it no longer generic.

    Just like a pair of Oakley sun glasses, with wout the "O", their generic.

    I owned a Clevo for a week, and I owned the OCZ whitebook for 3 days, both were Generic.

    Not to educate you but here,

    Generic brand: a brand for a product that does not have an associated brand or trademark other than the trading name of the business providing the product.


    Glad we get get that figured out. :)
     
  14. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    The M17x is completely built by flex.

    Not to educate you, but the only thing dell does is slap in a proc, hdd, etc.

    ODM's make all the laptops in this world :) Whether it's HP, Sony, Toshiba, etc. doesn't matter. Asus IIRC makes their own, but that is the exception.

    Wistron, Clevo, Flex, Quanta, Foxconn, Compal, etc.
     
  15. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    I completely understand what ODMs are, and how they work, I'm referring to the little sticker that says Alienware, thus converting that computer from an ODM generic brand to a name brand.

    Maybe you should read my post again so as not to get further confused with what I am saying.
     
  16. Skumbag

    Skumbag Notebook Guru

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    So correct me if I'm wrong....

    If this M15x is to have the new i7 processor in it, they're no longer going to have the older core duo and quads for it, right? Isn't this a complete motherboard change?

    So a good possibility that I could get a i7 M15x for a base price of $1799?
     
  17. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    I understand what you are saying 100%.

    Just because Flex put an Alienhead on it doesn't mean it isn't a Flex (W850-DI, to be exact :)).

    In that same thinking, the Sager's are brand-name Clevo's, right? Sager takes Clevo's laptop and put's "Sager" on it.

    Buying a Sager would be more quality than buying a Clevo? Because of the Sager name on it?
     
  18. MUMM RA

    MUMM RA Notebook Guru

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    Man, I hope the base price is less than that.

    I mean, I know it'll have an i7, but have the same base as the m17x is dumb.
     
  19. sleey0

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    ^^

    Either that, or the M17x will increase in price.
     
  20. Darkhan

    Darkhan Notebook Deity

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    Don't forget Foxconn, there making like 90% of the Dell desktops now along with just about everything else in the world.
     
  21. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Still go read the wiki page link I gave you, it will answer all your questions, but I see you would rather continue arguing for the sake of argument, and that bores me, so you win.

    I would hope to see the base price of the m15x at $1499
     
  22. sleey0

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    Thanks for reminding me and post updated :)
     
  23. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    I am not arguing with ya :)

    Just trying to understand your comment about laptop quality and how it relates to brand/generic. I could understand if you were referring to HDTV's, for example. Vizio comes to mind :) They don't make the panels, only the TV's internals. They can be hit or miss, especially if you compare them to, say, Sony or Samsung.

    But, yeah, the M15x better be cheaper than the M17x.
     
  24. Scytus

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    lies...it'll so have an i9...
     
  25. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    i9?

    That is SO 2012.

    I got one of the new Intelamd VPU's for powering my Virtual girlfriend!! lol
     
  26. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    Remember to use a Proxy. Theres all those viruses you can get when you mess with the wrong stuff ;)
     
  27. Skumbag

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    how could they pack a i7 into that machine and still make it to $1499 ? Aren't all the other i7 lappy's out there over $2k easily?
     
  28. Scytus

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    I actually just realized that the mobile i7 will not even utilize QPI, using Direct Media Interface instead...seems like QPI was short lived?

    I have never heard of DMI till now xD
     
  29. sleey0

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    Depends.

    If it is a base price, than I could see Dell doing a $1599 price point to start.

    Remember, Dell is much larger than resellers such as Sager, Xotic, etc.
     
  30. stack111

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    hmm from a microeconmic perspective that seems unlikely to throw an i7 into that laptop, remember this dell, they take this stuff into account where alienware just pushes the limits. I would make a guess that this new m15x would have the current quads in there, it would be too soon for an i7, then us consumers will be demanding them in our m17x's and what the new m17x has only be released for a couple quarters?

    What i want to see is them developing a netbook, or tablet pc to spread niche to mainstream customers, and i would love to have a top notch tablet that i can take to class and write notes on, and who buys hp's :p
     
  31. dwend

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    The HP envy 15 has a i7 chip & ati 4830 in it, I would be surprised if Alienware would let HP be ahead of them.
     
  32. stack111

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    yea i see, but i don't know, i would figure they would milk what they have first then around xmas maybe go into i7
     
  33. otaku

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    well you have hp rocking the i7 and falcon northwest and some others have offered it for awhile now in their lappies. They gotta have it for christmas if not sooner. I'm really sore about this whole hp taking over the envy name from voodoo and I fear the voodoo brand is now truly dead :(
     
  34. Skumbag

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    well if we're comparing HP to AW...

    Pricing starts at $1,699 for the Envy 13 and $1,799 for the Envy 15.
     
  35. Bubbamel

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    Wow, the envy 15 at $1799?.. I did not think they would start that high? I sure hope Dell sets the starting price just a bit lower. Does the envy even come with a disc drive?.. That would definitely be tough to swallow at that price point. Thank goodness for EPP! I guess we shall see on Wednesday.
     
  36. despise

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    because envy is meant to compete against mac
     
  37. jackystox

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    Alienware might use quad cores as the base model and sell it for 1499, and maybe put the i7 as their premium processor choice and sell it for 1799.
     
  38. shavenrat

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    But that wouldn't mean to sell M15X with 2 different motherboards??
     
  39. sleey0

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    Everything I have seen points to i7.

    Intel's NDA ends on the day of the refresh announcement. Coincidence? Doubtful.

    Sager is releasing there i7 systems the same day.

    It would be quite detrimental to the new m15x if it didn't have it while the competition does.
     
  40. fluus

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    according to that comparison i7/quad, the i7 does a good job and if it is going to be released and other companys providing them, why shouldnt AW, wouldnt make sense to me :confused:

    anyway the release is coming and at this picture it looks like an Dell desktop, an AW Destop and the 15x, also the destops look like the can open some vents on the top or am i dreaming :p
     
  41. lordqarlyn

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    ahhhh....still waiting until the 23rd....
     
  42. Quadzilla

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    Yeah 23rd will be a very interesting day indeed . Will be interesting to see if the M15x has the same Edge2Edge and Auto contrasting screen.
     
  43. sleey0

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    I wouldn't doubt it, quad.
     
  44. the3vilGenius

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    There can be lots of reasons. Im sure they tested with the core i7 but if they dont like results. There not going to release a bad product again just to be par with competition. Theres more to a laptop then just a processor. Im sure they will go for the overall quality before performance. Im not saying it isnt true lol
     
  45. Mandrake

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    Do we know when the event starts local time?
     
  46. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    We should start taking bets on what people think it will come with IE i7+new ATI cards or Old CPUs and 260m etc. .
     
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    Don't take that PCPro review of the mobile i7 very seriously. The review is comparing the total power consumption of notebooks with components that greatly favor the i7 system.

    The 55-nm GTX 260m has a TDP of 75w of power vs. the 40-nm GT 240m's TDP of 23w. Even the 17" monitor vs. the 16" monitor and DDR3 vs. DDR2 favors the i7 notebook over the Monty system.
     
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    With the Clevo's coming out with 280s I fear it will be the same. I'll wait on it if that happens.
     
  49. Quadzilla

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    Yes those are my thoughts as well. G92 tech and nothing from ATI,atleast from the get go but maybe later down the road.


    It would make sense though it will be i7 because of the heavy NDA the mobile i7s are having and the lack of any info at all on the M15x. Once they show the machine they would have to tell you to some degree whats inside of it i imagine so they did a total media blackout till the NDA is lifted.
     
  50. sleey0

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    10am on Thursday 9/24 (Wed 0900EST in the states).
     
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