M17 overclocking with SetFSB?

Isn't it 4850s=260ms and 4870s=280Ms?

I definetely doubt that 4850s are on par with 280s.

Anyways yea the 3870s are still very, very nice cards and still own and will own for quite a while still.

 

no the "4870's" in the Asus are really 4850's with ddr3

They are beating the 280's in Vantage and most games

 

New page so let's bring back up the more important and relevant info

 

Wow I am suprised. It'd be absolutely awesome if the M17 gets the 4850s in the future. They SHOULD work it's just AW wants to boost M17x sales...let's just hope that they will offer them in the near future once the M17x has been out a bit.

If we got 4850s for the M17s then wouldn't our machines be nearly on par with the M17x?

 

you wonder why AW did not want to release them

Once AW told Flex they wanted them to design the M17x they said wait we will hold off on the 4870's till the 850Di

 

Lol Lol and Lol Moo you can't make the distinction that the 4870's in the ASUS are beating the 280m's SLI.... the W90 has had time to iron out the initial kinks, all the systems Sager or Alienware with 280m's haven't had that chance yet... we are yet to see... you need to cool your bias a little

 

As of now they are and thats what i base my point of view on .....

I can make the distinction because THEY ARE in all the test SO FAR. I am not Blind, I have seen the test. From a price to performance standpoint the Asus kills the M17x. ( minus the GPU issues and RMA's)

So you need to cool your Bias view because the only time something matters is (the moment at hand)

The 280 could beat them ... I have no doubt they could, but right now they are not. Just because I say your magical 280's are loosing right now doesn't mean im a fan boy it means I have a open mind.


If i am so bias why did i buy the M17x

 

'Lil late for that....

Evil, bottom line, keep bumping up your settings in setFSB until you get a BSOD. setFSB will reset to default, then you put setFSB back to where it last worked and that's your max OC. Simple as that.

 

Hey Wouldn't the score be 12, 648 in reality? Which would be more reasonable and explain why the clock speed would make the difference?

Still haven't resolved or discussed this, and I'm pretty sure Evil wanted to know as well....

 

thats pretty much what i scored with my t9400 @ stock

12,xxx

 

Moo is right, although the asus has had a little time to iron out the kinks, the m17x just doesnt cut it

it is not living up to the all powerful name --- yet

 

Mhm. And people who sold their M17s for the M17x will be sorry if the M17 gets 4850s.

 

yup you are right

when( )the m17 gets the ATI cards then we will have pretty much the same machine as the m17x with 280's

although i believe the 17x will get the 4870's and the 17 will get the 4850's we already know they have done extensive testing on them

Pete

 

Kay, I'm pushing my Q9000 even further. Now at 2,394MHz. I'm running a stress test as we speak to see if it's stable.

EDIT: 5 minute quick stress test blasting the CPU at 100% load. No crashes, no errors. CPU temperature hit 48C.

Now bumping it up a bit more. Next test is at 2,414MHz.

10 minute stress test at 2,414MHz with no errors. Temp hit 50C. Bumping it up another few notches.

 

Okay, just bumping this up to catch people's attention.

I think the limit temperature wise is 2,453MHz. 4 min 11s into the test, OCCT stopped saying that my CPU was too hot. The CPU temperature was at 52C but the individual cores were hitting 80C.

 

Can I have more info on stress test and which soft you are using for it?

Also, in the M17X I am not able to increase voltages, should I even go there?

Is Ntune a good software to OC the GPU?

 

I use SetFSB to OC my CPU, and OCCT to test it. I'd recommend ATITool for the GPUs. (GPUs can be nVidia as well for ATITool, still works fine)

 

Thanks for the info. I see that you OC your M17 Q9000 above 2.4ghz. Is that a frequency you can leave your CPU at for daily use or you just did it for testing purpose?

I want to be sure that if I OC my QX9300, I can use it all the time a frequencies higher than stock without being worried of burning the CPU.

 

OCCT said that my core was running too hot testing at this, but that was after being on full load for 5 minutes. The temperature peaked at 52C which I hardly see as too hot. So yes, seeming as in very few real world situations you would hit 100% load, you could use it everyday. If unsure you may want to run a little lower, perhaps at 2.36GHz or so.

 

Thanks for your help, I am completely new to OC on laptop and a complete neewbie on desktop. I did some years ago and that's it.

So I guess on the QX9300 that runs at 2.53ghz stock I should be able to run it around 3ghz all the time.

 

On an extreme you can use multipliers AND FSB to get it to around 3.2GHz or more stable. However, the AW bios doesn't allow you to change multipliers so you'd have to flash it to a different bios which voids your warranty unless you send it back to them with their warranty.

 

In theory I would never need their warranty right?

I thought they advertised the QX9300 as OC so they must have a tool that let's you do it.

 

Bios you're only adjusting the multiplier (FSB X Multiplier=CPU Clock Speed)

It's safer b/c you're only adjusting the speed the CPU runs at, not the rest of the components.

Adjusting the FSB you're stressing EVERYTHING that runs on the FSB.

 

ohhh. I see, sorry I thought you meant the M17 Yes you can overclock in the BIOS on the M17x, both FSB and multipliers.

However you may want to look into getting a QX9300 externally. You can grab one off ebay in the $400 range. It's just if you ever need to send it back to AW you'll need to put the original processor back in.

 

The FSB runs at 1066mhz standard and the RAM at 1333mhz. I wonder if I can just OC the FSB at 1333 and still keep it completely stable.

How would you recommend that I go about on OC, small increments of 50mhz? 100mhz? for the FSB and see if it is stable with OCCT. I am not looking for records but gaining 10 FPS on Crysis Warhead would be nice.

Thanks for all the help

 

I'd highly doubt that there's enough room for a 10FPS increase.

 

You won't get an FPS increase on Warhead, even if you overclocked your CPU by a lot. Maybe a minor increase if your processor is currently bottlenecking it. If you want to play Warhead better then you'll need to look into GPU overclocking, you may get a good 5FPS or more out of it and looking at the M17x's cooling there should be enough headroom to do so.

 

Ok, so any help on GPU OC, I am not going to lie, I have never done it. I know you guys recommended ATI soft or Ntune but is it safe?

 

It's safe if your temperatures are in range. That's why you should be constantly monitoring your temperatures.

There are two areas of the card that you will overclock, the GPU itself and the VGA memory. (If you use ATITool that will automatically overclock the Shaders itself along with your GPU) Make sure your memory is at default and increase your GPU clock in small increments of around 10 or so. Stress test it after each increment-this is important. Once your system crashes you have gone past the limit, so retest the stable clock you had before that.

Then set your GPU clock back to default and repeat with the memory instead.

Once you have found your maximum GPU and memory clocks, leave it overclocked and enjoy. You can set ATITool to start at system boot and automatically load an OC so you don't have to do it every time.

 

Ok, so then my question should be what is a safe temperature for CPU Core, GPU core and the Northbridge?

 

woah evil corsair your 3dmark score looks alittle low to me. can someone comfirm this???? if so we can take care of that

 

For the CPU you should try and stay below 60C (check with SpeedFan) and each core shouldn't really be going above 80C. For the GPUs you should be fine up to low 90Cs, although I'd recommend staying below 90C and below 85C if possible. For the northbridge...I'm not really sure about the northbridge. That should be fine.

Yeah, it does seem low, but that test was at 2.35GHz so if I tested again it'd probably be in the 11,000s. It's probably due to the fact that 3DMark06 is now more of a CPU benchmark than a system benchmark. I'd need other Q9000 owners to confirm they get about 10,500, which is what I got at the stock 2GHz clock.

 

i don't have my whitebook anymore to comfirm but i had a qx9300 and stock everything i got 13,500. then i dropped the cpu to 1.5ghz and i got 8,500 and then at 3.2ghz the highest i got was 15,828. in all of those i never pushed the gpu so i am think your should in 11 with 2.0ghz.


can you run it again stocked. and then overlclock also post a picture of cpu-z so i know the fsb you pushed it to and your temps, and score. also your drivers, i would recommend 8.10 so you can overclock and raise your score higher.

 

For comparison, my stock M17 with Q9000 4GB DDR3, and Dual HD3870's in xfire gives me 11,548 in 3DMark 06.

 

BENCHMARK RESULTS:

So here is the result of my first bench:

3DMARK Vantage:

Result: 10987
CPU: 11667

I am running 3DMark 2006 right now.

 

This is on the M17 or M17x? Jesus either way it is kind of low no?

 

M17X and no I don't think it is low for 3DMark Vantage. It's one of the fastest laptop results.

 

again that is vantage, not 3d mark 06... lol two different threads, I apologize

 

If that was the score of 2006, I would have returned it.

 

3DMARK 2006 Results:

Score:15231
SM2: 5933
SM3: 7496
CPU: 3995

I have the stock drivers so I will need to update them and rerun the test but I don't have time now. Will do that over the weekend.

 

you have the wrong thread. I rally don't mind it but you confused me since it was a m17.

but what clocks is your cpu. for 3dmark06 that's low for 3.2ghz.

 

Yes you are right this is a an M17 thread. No the CPU is not running at 3.2ghz. I left everything stock for this test.

 

I don't have a problem with you doing so. I do it all the time lol. but I just got confused.

your cpu score is low at 3.2ghz. I have some tips but my phone is limiting my typing. but don't worry, I will tell you what to do.

 

I would love any inputs, I'll check the thread later when you can type more but remember my CPU was running at stock speed NOT 3.2ghz. I was also using stock drivers and everything else. I would love to be able to stabilize the pc at 3.2ghz.

 

oh I see. I thought you were at 3.2ghz. I wll check my records when I get to a computer and see what my score is.

 

There are plenty of M17x threads for discussing their results.

 

It may well be due to my 9.6 drivers. I'm going to leave it on 9.6, as it gives the best gaming performance. After all, benchmarks don't matter; gaming performance does.

If someone shows me a guide on how to run the Crysis benchmark tool (I've got no idea on how to run it ) then I can run that to compare it to others, at stock and OCd.

Erm...presumably that's on the standard AW drivers? And presumably you mean DDR3 ram...lol, the M17 doesn't come with DDR2

Maybe my 2GB of RAM is holding back my system.

Anyway, I'll run 3DMark06 again at stock and overclocked. Perhaps I accidentally left my system on Power Saver. (lol)

EDIT: I just realised that I'm using the free version of 06. That may be the reason I'm getting low scores as it forces a resolution of 1280x900. What resolution do you guys run it at?

I'm looking for a crack for it now to try and get it to run at a different resolution.

EDIT 2: Kay I found a working serial for it. I'm running it now at 1280x720. I'll post screenies of my results and temps before and after testing.

 

Bumping with my results. I've found that running at 1280x720 yields much better, more realistic results.

[email protected] (stock), before running 3DMark06:


[email protected] (stock), after running 3DMark06:


[email protected], before running 3DMark06:


[email protected], after running 3DMark06:

 

Yeah, me and my fat fingers sorry. And yes, stock right out of the box with AW 8.57 Drivers, no OC.

 

Was that at 1280x720 resolution?

Oh, and any chance you could install the 9.6 drivers and try again? You'll probably want to install the 9.6 drivers anyway because they're much better for gaming performance, especially for Crysis.