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    M17X vs M17 3DMark scores tested

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by cdcool, Jul 5, 2009.

  1. Pman

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    [​IMG]

    here is my score on my m17 :) everything maxed out running at 3.2ghz
     
    Pman, Jul 6, 2009
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    ok now drop the res to 1920*1080 and 1680*1050
     
    dondadah88, Jul 6, 2009
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    oooo thats ugly at 1920x1080 got 82fps and the 1650 i borted when it looked about 70

    bleh
     
    Pman, Jul 6, 2009
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  4. dondadah88

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    ???? isn't it suppose to be higher. what driver are you using?
     
    dondadah88, Jul 6, 2009
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  5. Pman

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    9.6 mob modded, must be the scaling filter causing lower fps
     
    Pman, Jul 6, 2009
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    that wouldn't make a difference. the scaling that is.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 6, 2009
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  7. Pman

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    well i dont have an answer then but there was a massive difference in scores, i flipped back to 1920x1200 and scored about the same as last time
     
    Pman, Jul 6, 2009
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    well i'm not sure either. i would have to see if it does the same for me.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 6, 2009
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  9. Pman

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    only thing i can guess is that it is not running native res

    but how that would effect it i dont know
     
    Pman, Jul 6, 2009
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  10. cdcool

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    What bios are you using?
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    zfactor .28
     
    dondadah88, Jul 7, 2009
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    Im looking to flash my M17 bios for overclocking, is the Zfactor .28 Bios the recommended one?
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    yes it is. i'm going to work in a bit but pm me after you flash it and later on i'll walk you threw to test how stable it is. (if you don't know how to do it or if you already know someone who can do it for you already.)
     
    dondadah88, Jul 7, 2009
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  14. cdcool

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    Thanks where can I get get?, cant seem to find it.
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    i don't have it with me. (i'm my way to work.) :(
     
    dondadah88, Jul 7, 2009
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    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    Guy's Im just trying to get the ZFactor .28 bios into my M17 so I can do some testing.

    I did the download, copied the files onto a CD and it will not boot using the CD just kicks back into windows after the Boot from CD request comes up. Did I miss a step in creating a bootbale CD?. I thought the files made the CD bootable.

    Sorry for my lack of knowledge, I did attempt to do some searches on the subject.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    And waste $600+ ...I dont think so mate. Maybe if I had some more cash, but I cant afford jack serving this country.
     
    Snowm0bile, Jul 7, 2009
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  19. cdcool

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    Okay enjoy the M17..I have one.
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    As dond said I am using the .28 bios

    the easiest way by a ling shot is to follow zfactors USB boot guide, hunt around it's on here somewhere.

    Boot from a stick run the exe make coffee then clock the crap outta ur CPU job done really.

    If you need specific help I will give u a hand just pm me. But the morale of the story is flash then bench till ur CPU melts then down clock 5 MHz :p

    Pete
     
    Pman, Jul 7, 2009
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  21. cdcool

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    Thanks Man :)
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    Rob41, Jul 7, 2009
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  23. cdcool

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    Okay thanks..I will give this a shot.

    I guess the CD option is not a good one?
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    Electronic transfer > mechanical transfer IMO.
     
    Rob41, Jul 7, 2009
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    Thanks rob, I'm on my iPhone and searching is a pain hehe

    I wouldn't say cd isn't as good, it's just doing the USB is faster/easier for me
     
    Pman, Jul 7, 2009
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    True, I think most people using the .28 bios have had good success with the USB method though.

    I just prefer "full electronic" methods like USB and SSD's over their mechanical counterparts. :p
     
    Rob41, Jul 7, 2009
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  27. Pman

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    i will agree more when i can afford ssd :p
     
    Pman, Jul 7, 2009
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    I hear ya. lol

    I've got a couple "antique" SSD's but I'm saving for a pair of newer models.
     
    Rob41, Jul 7, 2009
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  29. cdcool

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    The usb worked :D

    Bios Version: W840.028
    KBC Version 130D

    M17 now running at 3.07 :) , seems stable so far.
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    welcome to the club

    now get clocking
     
    Pman, Jul 7, 2009
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  31. cdcool

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    :D 3d mark06 15664

    I'll keep at it... thanks
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    My M17X @ 2.80: 3dmark06 14673. I can't keep 2.93 stable with the current bios.

    The M17X is going need need some help.

    I will run the thong test (Street fighter 4) on both again also.

    Just trying to see what are the highest possible scores on both right now.
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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  33. Quadzilla

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    I would go way beyond just testing out 3dmark06 and Streetfighter to decide if you want to even keep it or not.

    Take you favorite games load up some save files for the same games on both computers , turn on FRAPS and watch your framerates in the games and how much different they are.

    The CPU is not going to have much if any effect on alot of games you play and will mainly only help in Synthetic benchmarks like 06 and maybe vantage,
    So even at 2.80ghz it will be enough .

    You may want to not overclock with the multiplier at all and instead try overclocking with the FSB instead and see if you can get it higher that way .

    Just some more suggestions for you :).
     
    Quadzilla, Jul 7, 2009
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  34. cdcool

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    Thanks for the suggestions. I will try the FSB trick when I get home.
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    How did you get to 3.2?, and how did you over clock the 3870's?

    thanks
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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  36. cdcool

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    When is your M17x arriving?
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    Your guess is as good as mine at this point.

    I have an EDD of the 31st of this month , im really hoping/praying for sooner but with all the delays from LCDs to Black cases im not sure if it will even be on time .
     
    Quadzilla, Jul 7, 2009
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    I used multi x 12, but when i first started i used 11.5 then used setfsb to get the clock stable at 3.2ghz

    after the as5 cured a little i could run stable at 12 multi then tweak to 3.270 with setfsb

    I used the GPU tool from 3dguru to clock the cores, but the main oc that i did was to the PCI bus which i run at 104-105

    Hope that helps

    Pete
     
    Pman, Jul 7, 2009
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  39. cdcool

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    Yes, that helped thanks..what tool did you use for the PCI bus?
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    setfsb :)

    10 char
     
    Pman, Jul 7, 2009
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  41. cdcool

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    Okay..I will stary playing around with it too.
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    be VERY VERY careful with the PCI bus as it is a very quick way to blow your card if you overdo it

    I do it because i am a mad man

    and donda bullied me :eek:
     
    Pman, Jul 7, 2009
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  43. cdcool

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    :D I will try
     
    cdcool, Jul 7, 2009
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    I know im extra late, but heres my results. all stock
     

    Attached Files:

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    Right guys, I just spent about 5 hours clocking everything .5 at a time and have just got a pretty impressive score.

    This is with NO cooling mods and NO GPU Oc'ing (as I cant figure out how to get it to work)

    M17, Dual 3870's, QX9300, 4GB RAM, 500GB 7200 HD x2 (No RAID)

    9.6 Mobility Modified Drivers

    Windows 7 x64

    Zfactors 0.28 Bios

    11.5x Bios multiplier, 455 / 250 SETFSB clocks

    Gives me 16698 3DMarks (3dmark06)

    [​IMG]
     
    adamwalker13, Jul 7, 2009
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    Nice score adamwalker13!

    For easy overclocking of the graphics cards I use a tool from TechPowerup! GPU overclocking and tweaking tool.

    ScreenShot015.jpg


    Here is a shot of GUPz showing that the clocks hold.

    ScreenShot014.jpg


    Sorry I can't provide a link right now as their site is giving me trouble loading today.
     
    Rob41, Jul 7, 2009
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    adam what's your res?
     
    dondadah88, Jul 7, 2009
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    I use 1280x800 as my current drivers dont allow for scaling, and I figured fullscreen was better :)

    Also that GPU tool doesnt actually seem to have any performance impact... It seems to show clocks as being set, but have very little effect. Unless I'm not clocking high enough?
     
    adamwalker13, Jul 8, 2009
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    Well, I got the M17X up to 3.02 (I think) :confused: using

    x10.5
    FSB 1145

    CPU-Z shows 3.02
    Vista shows 2.80
    Bios shows 2.93

    3DMark06 score 15684
    ________________________

    My M17 @ 3.07

    x11.5

    scored 15582
     
    cdcool, Jul 8, 2009
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  50. cookinwitdiesel

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    ya the 3dMark06 scores really need to be at 1280x1024 to be comparable to others as that is the "default" and therefore standard that runs are almost always made it.
     
    cookinwitdiesel, Jul 8, 2009
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