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    M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo?, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Lol. i hope so. yeah i have alot of stuff i have to get so i will have the gpu with no heatsinks/fans and sli cable(i may get the fan tomorrow). so i have to try not to look at the gpu or my money will go somewhere else. :)

    but i'm thinking if undervolting the cpu will lower performance at all?????? have you heard of this. i did it with my e8600 and i did drop 100 points on 3dmark06 on the cpu score but that's when i first got my unit so i didn't do any more test to see if that was causing it.
     
  2. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    I have undervolted quite abit in the past and the most i found it caused was the system always felt abit more sluggish doing basic stuff . thats atleast how i felt though i know others it did not have the same effect.
     
  3. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well i would think it would improve performance because of the fact that it's taking away extra volts(unneeded power) from the cpu making it run cooler and providing better performance.

    but i had a t5450 1.5ghz and underclocked it to .950v and it did seem alot slower then when it was normal.

    i'm trying to decide if buying cpugenie (after the quad) will be a good choice. since rmclock doesn't do .5x
     
  4. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    !!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Do Not Flash Your 260

    EDIT: it was a crazy adventure that worked


    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  5. Johnksss

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    hummmm, anything below factory specs on the chip will cause it to blue screen and fail. and most laptops can't drop past factory. as long as you use the speed step, balanced mode and c1e.. it will stay cool. but undervolting and trying to over clock...not a good combo....
     
  6. catacylsm

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    Have you tried tricking RMClock into half multipliers?
     
  7. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Moo the question is did you actually pick up the extra stream processors?
     
  8. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I believe that is a no, or he would be MUCH more excited at having just saved $400
     
  9. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Where or where is butters. Show what you can do with that system here.
     
  10. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Im here now... just got back good timing eh?
     
  11. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    You are much quieter since you got the system. Any vids or benchmarks yet?
     
  12. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    I ran vantage and 06... got 1400 on 06... and ~9000 on vantage for GPU.... this is all stock... sorry about my absence the arrival of my M17x was bitter sweet as my dad was diagnosed with diabeties yesterday as well
     
  13. HutchJ81

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    Sorry to hear that man.
     
  14. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Have you tried any OC'ing yet?
     
  15. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    No I'm still using the standard drivers.. I am running Vantage for a screenshot right now so I can show you my temps and scores @ stock... I need you to tell me if my CPU temps look ok
     
  16. Quadzilla

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    10001 on Vantage for me and 13,400 something on 06 with this ****** CPU :). This was with the 190.38 drivers .

    Im not going to go and start plastering pics of crappy
    benchmarks but i figured i would chime in since Drake was asking .

    This was with no OC on the GPU . 3.0ghz on the CPU 1333FSB/1066 on the ram.
     
  17. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Here take a look I think my CPU Heat is a little on the high side
     

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  18. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    nah your fine Biscuits.
     
  19. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Your temps are well within normal range. Run OCCT against you proc for 20 minutes or so and watch the temps. If the program doesn't crash out on you you're fine then.
     
  20. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Due to this being the first time I've installed a CPU in a laptop (thanks for the guide, and moo your video ;) ) I can't help but to think I did something wrong lol... I couldn't entirely remove the sticker off the bottom of the CPU as it was breaking apart and I was afraid of damaging the cpu and or getting oil on the pins
     
  21. Mandrake

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    Sounds like Shirley used the wrong kind of sticker.
     
  22. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Also what do you guys make of this... is this just due to the fact I switched from a 8600 to my Qx9300?
     

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  23. dondadah88

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    yup your perfectly fine. just uninstall the core 2 duo ones and reboot. then it will install the qx9300 ones then reboot then your good to go.
     
  24. Quadzilla

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    Wait you didnt remove the whole sticker from the bottom of the CPU ??.

    Its a break apart sticker but totally should have been removed. if you use an exacto blade very carefully you can lift each corner as it breaks and get it all off .
     
  25. Quadzilla

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    As for having your CPU show up properly Uninstall it from the device manager and reboot .
     
  26. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Yes that is done now... but no I did not remove the sticker entirely... I have to go back in don't I?
     
  27. Quadzilla

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    If it were me yes . that should not be on there period :(.

    I cant imagine your feeling good about it but once you get the system apart a couple times it will be a peace of cake :) .

    I have taken mine apart 5 times already lol and now i can do it in my sleep .
     
  28. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    I don't know why there was a sticker, it made me frustrated as well... ahh I really don't want to go back in though... Guess I'll go do that now then...
     
  29. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Crap... do you thnik it already melted?
     
  30. b0oMeR

    b0oMeR Notebook Consultant

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    Funny how you post 2 minutes later and say that. :D

    Probably won't be melted yet as long as you haven't oc'ed it and ran any intense applications it should be fine.
     
  31. Quadzilla

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    No i doubt it melted but should not be there . its paper so it shouldnt melt :).
     
  32. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    You should be fine even when the sticker is on. That part is not touching anywhere and not doing anything. Since the sticker is not a conducter, you should be just fine. Do not screw up your CPU while fighting that thing. I had a T7600 with a sticker and those CPUs usually run extremely hot and even with the sticker, there weree no issues.
     
  33. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    One more quick question... I used ICD7 do I have to reapply my thermal paste... clean it all of with arctic clean and reapply?

    Or as Alitunay said does it really matter?
     
  34. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yes always clean the CPU(re apply paste) after you remove it etc. As for Alitunay's suggestion you will have to decide on what path you think is best :) . again i wouldnt leave it there harming anything or not, but others may feel it wont cause issue .
     
  35. alitunay

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    Sticker was not touching any of the pins right? It was just at the middle circuits? If so, I would leave it ike that and at least you will have something to blame once you see that your CPU does not overclock to 3.06. Or if it does, you can write up a guide about how to apply a sticker to the middle circuit ona mobile CPU to get better overclocks.
     
  36. MrButterBiscuits

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    haha yes it was only in the middle of the circuits... and there is only a very very small piece left... about 1/3 of the total (middle section)
     
  37. monkey123456

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    I did the 3Dmark06 without registering the product (free version) with stock settings (cant change a thing regarding resolution etc) and got 10067..

    I have one 260m and a T9600...no overclocking at all regarding memory, CPU,GPU (i just dont know how and dont want to mess things up)
    ... is this a good score

    setting that are stock in the 3DMark06

    -1280 x 1024
    -Anti Aliasing - none
    Filtering - none
    -3_0
    -3_0
    repeat teest - off

    redoing to copy seperate cpu score etc.. forgot to write these down... got my 3dmark06 score though (see above)

    EDIT:thanks moo... just wanted to check (and tell people my score) what others were getting... its very hard to read through all the chit chat, and actually getting the scores posted

    EDIT2:like your new avata
     
  38. The_Moo™

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    the score is fine since 3dmarks is reporting decent scores which means everything is working
     
  39. raven82

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    Just got my M17x yesterday and am almost ready to start benching and OC'ing it. My rig basics are Q9000, 280 SLI, 1333 4gb ram, and Vista Ult. Played with Bios settings a bit already, but been looking for alternatives.

    At this point in time, what is the general consensus for CPU and GPU OC'ing? I saw the list on the 1st page, but looking for the most recent input.

    Oh, ya. Is my unit the only one that upon start or opening it the left fan turns on full blast for about 5secs then shuts down?
     
  40. Mandrake

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    CPU=Bios, GPU=Nvidia System tools 6.05. You can push the CPU further with the system tools also.

    Now get to postin' those benches. :D
     
  41. Quadzilla

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    The SLI cable was lost apparently from what the tech told me 3 times calling this morning lol.

    He said ill have to wait till monday its looking like :( the clock is ticking on my decisions to return for a replacement etc and my love for the machine is going to fade very fast if i cant get this sorted out ASAP. Blah.
     
  42. Mandrake

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    Bad experiences tend to taint anyone's feelings towards any product. I'm sure by Monday it'll be fine but 2 more days to wait sucks.
     
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    Would not have been so bad if i had owned the machine for a month and this suddenly happened but having owned it a day or 2 and already problems leaves me very bummed.

    The CPU thing was a hit or miss so i can live with that and will have Qx9300 coming soon.

    The GPU thing though should not be happening but i also know stuff happpens and computers are not perfect .


    Oh the tech was very Adamant about me not taking it apart lol. Said he breaks something then they will replace it for free but if i do its not covered.

    Problem im having is im gonna have to re apply thermal paste to one of the GPUs because the SLI cable sits underneath the heatpipe so its going to have to be taken apart and i dont like to rush that . So i either just slap it all back together and wait for him to leave and then crack it all open again or tell him its going to take a few more minutes because i want it done right IE cleaning the heatsink and GPU completely then reapply.
     
  44. raven82

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    I should have a few things up later tonight. This is gonna sound lazy, but in the Bios I need to follow a formula if I remember correctly and I know Mandrake you had posted it before. Any chance I might convince you to put that up again?

    Oh ya, base line with free 3d mark 06 was 8912. Think that might be a bit low with Sli 280s. Going re-check drivers before moving forward with oc'ing.
     
  45. Mandrake

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    fsb/4= bus
    bus x multiplier = cpu freq.

    Your 3dmark06 score is low but that bench is more influenced by the CPU than Vantage is.
     
  46. anothergeek

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    With sli 280M and at minimum a 2.4ghz duo, you shouldn't be under 12k.
     
  47. Quadzilla

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    Yeah at 3.0ghz i was 13,400 something but i formatted last night and started fresh to see what i come up with today . The 190.38s are very nice drivers BTW probably not for benching but its awesome they have all the newest SLI profiles in there and when you add the EVGA sli profiler to that your good to go.
     
  48. raven82

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    Thanks for the info, playing with Nvidia System Tool now, works great!
     
  49. Quadzilla

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    First run with some OC and my crappy dual core :). 190.38 drivers BTW. Oh im running 1333 FSB 1333 memory no problems so far.

    [​IMG]
     
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