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    M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by The_Moo?, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    i did try

    and for record, the m980nu has a confirmed unlocked bios on the way :)

    let the games begin
     
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    a_beast33 Notebook Consultant

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    oh yeah. i thought he was already at 11.8 gpu...dammn, i need to pay more attention in here.
     
  4. Quadzilla

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    Thats good news Pman . The M980nu is one heck of a machine and deserves the proper bios .
     
  5. Johnksss

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    when is this bios suppose to be made public?
     
  6. cookinwitdiesel

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    that is the magic question haha

    Clevo needs to get it out so they stop losing sales to AW
     
  7. Quadzilla

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    I dont know if they set a date or anything of that sort . On Clevo's site i think it says "Unlocked Bios" so maybe thats where the info is coming from ? . So when the 9850 gets officially released maybe they will see it then .
     
  8. Pman

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    i have been told to expect it within a few weeks

    but tbh even with a locked bios the m980nu wins over the m17x for me, with a locked bios i was only 110 marks off mandrake anyway

    simple as that really
     
  9. Johnksss

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    depends on what they unlock as well...
    i felt the same way when i had the np9262..we could only over clock the gpus and that's it. had i had full over clocking like these new machines...the 9262 would still be in the running...lol
     
  10. Ethrem

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    The M980Nu isn't appealing to me because of the lack of a "complete care" type warranty.
     
  11. Johnksss

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    what do you mean?
     
  12. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    There is no accidental damage warranty option for the m980nu from AVA or the other company that sells them... Just your standard hardware failure warranty. Also, no in-home service... You have to ship it out to get it fixed. Thanks but no thanks.

    I have a full warranty with Toshiba on my X205... Its been in the repair shop for over two weeks now. And its a local place. I have full accidental damage, etc., for 3 years on it and I've sent it in to Toshiba one time and they sent it back worse than it was when I sent it in and now the second time I brought it to a local place and Toshiba isn't getting them the parts.

    I think I would much rather have an in-home + accidental damage service. I'm over the taking it to UPS or to a local authorized repair center crap.
     
  13. sleey0

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    I haven't heard much nice things about Sager's cust service/tech support either.

    I have been dealing with Dell for years and know exactly what I'm getting as far as service and support.
     
  14. Johnksss

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    humm.. interesting....

    ok, this has nothing to do with you ethrem



    has anyone actually had some one come to their house and physically take apart the whole laptop and fix it right there on the spot? you know..like pop in 2 brand new gpus for testing..a spare qx9300 retail chip and a spare screen on hand... dammn, dell never did that for me.

    they came and looked at it, then said they had to send it to dell. and i only tried it just to see what they did.

    asking for stories on in home services calls...thanks guys.

    me either, but then i wouldn't get an extended warranty through them either. since when you laptop goes for serious repair..it goes to a clevo service center.
     
  15. Ethrem

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    I can't speak for Alienware laptops but my best friend has an Inspiron and she's had a tech come out twice and fix it on the spot. First time, the keyboard went out. Second, the motherboard.

    I imagine Alienware parts are harder to come by but I would still rather have Complete Care. They could very easily say that your fried video card isn't covered because you must have overclocked it and thus, voided your warranty, without any proof that you actually did. Many companies have done crap like that.

    In fact, when I called Toshiba to schedule my drop off of my laptop for the flickering screen, they said "well you must have dropped it and so you will have to pay to have the LCD replaced" until I told them to look at my account and see I have accidental damage. Then I ripped into him for accusing me of dropping a machine I just got back from depot repair that same day!

    If you have an accidental damage warranty, they can't pull shenanigans like that. Your laptop could break into tiny little pieces from a drop and they'd still have to replace everything.
     
  16. Johnksss

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    yeah, not knocking the accidental damage. i have seen that one in action as well. guy ran over his with his car. and they replaced it. they asked like 3 questions for verification then they replaced it.

    but doesn't that only cover one free replacement?
     
  17. Quadzilla

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    Im pretty certain its for the life of the warranty you paid for though i think if you ran your laptop over "accidentally" every year they might get a bit suspicious :).
     
  18. Ethrem

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    Yep. As long as the warranty is in effect, unless its obvious you purposely destroyed the laptop multiple times, you are covered.
     
  19. sleey0

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    It's for the life of the warranty, which keeps getting transferred to the replaced system.

    I had an Gen2 replaced with an M170, then that replaced with an M1710, then that replaced with a M1730 :)
    (I am not clumsy or anything - just have kids and a dog that doesn't mix well with nice electronics)

    Trust me, complete care is worth it's weight in gold. lol

    And it didn't take but 5 minutes to request a replacement under the cc warranty...
     
  20. cookinwitdiesel

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    and those stories are why I am upgrading to the 3 year super warranty before my first year is out haha
     
  21. BatBoy

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    Yep - Extended warranty with Onsite Repair (no way on that repair depot base option) is the best. Although I initially purchased Complete Care 3 years ago, I've never had to use it. Complete Care is a nice add-on though. Coffee Spill all over and unit is zapped, no problem. ;)

    I have had a onsite tech replace a motherboard + LCD + GPU in a M1710. Also multiple GPUs on a 1730 as well. Most of the onsite techs are ok, some are down right idiots. So, word of advice - watch them closely. If any damage is caused by the tech - call it in and it will be covered. Test your system before the tech leaves as well. If the issue is not resolved, let the tech call it in since they have a direct line to a rep - if you do it, you are going to hit 'on-hold city'.

    Keep in mind, these are not actual techs employed by Dell. They work for a company called QualX Serv. This is the on-site repair vendor Dell uses.

    All of the service agreements can be found here:
    http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/services/main/service_contracts?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

    If you purchased via the EPP program, see the warranty area of the EPP site.
     
  22. Mandrake

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    The unlocked bios will help your 06 score much more than it will help Vantage.
     
  23. Kade Storm

    Kade Storm The Devil's Advocate

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    Yeah, that's. . . interesting. When I do a search for anything negative about any company, I get lexicons full of negative press and statements. In fact, Dell seems to be a chart-topper at this point.

    That is true, and ironically, that is why I no longer trust my money in their hands. Because between the expectations of the consumer and the ever-radical changes to their management infrastructure, I can only see a consistent pattern of chaos, frustration, and agony, at least for a handful of EU-residents. We know what we should be getting, but what we also know is that half our points made to the support team will be a hit and miss, thanks to their scripted, run-on replies and the massive delays due to low levels of 'comprehension'. Some people get lucky, others get screwed.

    I think, personally, U.S. owners clearly have the edge by virtue of better support and more fleixble and forth-right attitude by the customer service department. Unfortunately, almost the exact opposite can be said about the EU support and customer service.

    Although I do fully agree on the merits of complete-care and Dell warranty, if utilised properly. Good things can happen with these packages. However, here in Europe, their warranty transfer and follow-up attitudes and ethics are atrocious; there have been scenarios where they don't award the new owner the same rights and courtesy that comes with an on-going warranty package. Until I'm convinced otherwise, I firmly stand by the opinion that European customers should think very carefully about purchasing from Dell.
     
  24. cookinwitdiesel

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    the reason you hear the most about dell is because they have the largest market share and sell the most. Their machine failure rates as a percentage are probably within 5% of all the other big companies
     
  25. Johnksss

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    it will help on all fronts, if they unlock the right parts of it. along with a few minor adjustments.
     
  26. Mandrake

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    If they just unlock multi and fsb it will be limited.
     
  27. Johnksss

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    yeah, that's kind of what the post above yours means. :)
    m17x has an advantage...it's pcie seems to be unlocked....is this true in your case as well?
     
  28. Mandrake

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    Yes, for control in NST. I'm sure the M980 is the same since it's the same chipset.
     
  29. sgilmore62

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    What are the benefits of raising pci clocks? Wow, Dell raised the base price to $1999 and the qx9300 to $1280.
     
  30. Mandrake

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    I just checked Dell's site and don't see that. Are you looking at a e-value code?
     
  31. Johnksss

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    pcie has an offset...

    if you raise it above 105 you generally lose your netcard, but you gain speed on your video cards.

    you can get a way with about 110 to 115 mhz. possibilities include..drives not responding/ can drop one display adapter or create to much over head and not enough voltage to keep up.
     
  32. sgilmore62

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    I too see..., but no, I followed this studio 15 LINK then the laptop dropdown and followed to m17x
    "NEW! Now featuring optional Intel® Core™ i7 Mobile Processors:"
     
  33. Quadzilla

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    Looks like the prices of all there stuff went up . $740 for dual 280s now ?.
     
  34. Mandrake

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    It's the Canadian site, that's why it looks different.

    I don't see the reference to the i7.
     
  35. Quadzilla

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    Lol i didnt even notice that . Thanks :). Oh and i did not see the i7 reference either .
     
  36. sgilmore62

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    It's on the link I posted for studio 15
     
  37. Pman

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    i dont see it either

    putting a mobile i7 has 2 problems

    1) it isnt out yet :biggrin:

    2) the internals and motherboard in the m17x do not support the i7
     
  38. Johnksss

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    im 100 percent sure it was a typo...they do make allot of those and people get their hopes up for the impossible...lol
     
  39. Charles P. Jefferies

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    That is interesting - I see it too. I attached a screenshot in case they take it down.
     

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  40. Quadzilla

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    Yeah i see that to but i think he was reffering to the M17x having it ?.
     
  41. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Yeah, I don't see it for the M17x.

    Dell definitely has some typos on their site.
     
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    Sorry to drag into another off-topic, folks.

    Of course, why not? It's possible. I just don't subscribe to this thinking, as of the moment, because I believe otherwise. Maybe real facts will change this perception, but until then. . . nope.

    There's so many factors to consider as well.

    For example, I'm certain the M17x is going to have a decent life-span with very few problems. . . compared to the M1730. The same way, I am not going to associate the decent quality of other Dell machines with their support ethics. . . in Europe, because they don't have one streamlined standard for all regions.

    And on the subject of support, which was my primary point of criticism, I'll once again refer to the serious missteps in logic and conduct employed by many of their so-called 'support reps'.

    It doesn't matter if they have the best, most future-proof machine. I just don't trust their word and quality of service here in EU, because if I sell that machine to someone else, there's a very good chance they'll give that person hell before giving them the required service. Period. An unfortunate circumstance for a good few people here.
     
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    hummm, after a bit of looking i found this...
    Earlier today, we revealed to you a new Intel Core i5-950, two new Intel Core i7's, and a whole list of 32nm Intel Core i3's and i5's. However, Intel likes to surprise us. Now, they have revealed seven 32nm Core i5, i7 mobile processors, debuting in Q1 2010...and a couple other surprises.

    These processors will be appearing early next year with the Core i5's and Core i3's. They are called "Arrandale" and are targeted for "laptops in both the low-voltage, thin'n'light and more standard notebook designs". Additionally, they will have the Core i5 and Core i7 branding.

    ULV (ultra low voltage) Core i7's will run at 1.06 GHz and 1.20 GHz, and auto-overclock to 2.13 GHz and 2.26 GHz, if thermal conditions are right. Intel sets the envelope at 18W - 10 W of standard speed. Additionally, these chips will have 4MB of L3 cache and support 800 MHz DDR3 memory. In addition, Hyperthreading will double their logical core to four.

    There will also be two LV (low voltage) Core i7's with a standard TPD of 17W, and 25W when auto-overclocked. The DDR3 speeds will also be upped to 1066 MHz. The two will run at 2 GHz and 2.13 GHz, and, if needed, will auto-overclock up to 2.80 GHz and 2.93 GHz. Hyperthreading will also double their logical core to four.

    There will also be a standard Core i7 mobile processor, with speeds of 2.66 GHz and an incredible maximum auto-overclock speed of 3.33 GHz, extending the TDP from its standard 25W to 35W. It will have 4MB of L3 cache, and like its brothers, will also have Hyperthreading, doubling its logical core to four. Memory runs up to 1066 MHz.

    In addition to the Core i7's, there will be two Core i5's that will have the same TDP range and memory clock frequency as the 2.66 GHz i7. However, they'll have lower standard and overclocked core speeds - 2.4 GHz and 2.53 Ghz; capable of auto-overclocking to 2.93 GHz and 3.06 Ghz. Additionally, the i5's will only have 3MB of L3 cache.

    There is also at least one Arrandale-based dual-core mobile Celeron processor, but that won't be appearing until Q2 2010.

    Not all of these Arrandales will feature an integrated graphics core. However, we don't know which ones listed will have it. Of course, they will all have a PCI-Express connector able to connect directly to an external GPU.

    And for you other computer enthusiasts, there will also be true quad-core Intel mobile processors. They are the i7-720QM, the i7-820QM and the i7-920XM, running at standard/overclock speeds of 1.6/2.8GHz, 1.73/3.06GHz and 2.0/3.2GHz, respectively. All will have 8MB of L3 cache and like the Core i7 920, 940, and 965, they will have Hyperthreading, doubling its logical core to EIGHT. Eight threads on a laptop...that's something to wrap your mind around for a bit. Expect them very soon, in Q4 2009.

    And for those of you incredibly hungry, laptop enthusiasts waiting for the 32nm version of the three 45nm quad-core Intel mobile processors, don't wait. They probably won't appear until Q4 2010.


    original source
    http://www.theguiltygeek.com/index.php?article=1355
     
  44. Ethrem

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    holy crap! I want!

    Link please?
     
  45. Johnksss

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    Yes please!

    don't forget to give credit to your source...
     
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    never said it was a source. just information on the net is all.
     
  48. Mandrake

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    Yeah but it looks like you're posting someone else's article without giving credit. Doesn't matter to me if the mods don't care.
     
  49. Johnksss

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    yeah, funny how where i got, they didn't give credit either. so i will not be giving any credit to anyone not deserving.

    Yeah but it looks like you're posting someone else's article without giving credit. Doesn't matter to me if the mods don't care. <- rotflmao!
     
  50. Mandrake

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    Are you waiting for i7 before getting a notebook?
     
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