M17x Benchmarks thread !!!

original link posted up above.

getting a notebook? i have 5 notebooks..lol

getting a shinny new toy to play with is something different. and since im working on i7's now...then an i7 mobile over clocker with the right bios can produce some nice results.

just not looking to be the test dummy this go round i think...

 

lol....you knew what I meant.

 

i would have already grabbed one, but im working a desktop right now. and that desktop has been benchmarking and testing since i built it. june 8 2009. it's benchmarking as we speak. and it's benchmarking games for people looking for answers as to why theirs isn't working..


ill probably get back in when the new gpus and cpus come around. since im a techno geek of sorts..
but when i do..it will be a big old toy to me and not my everyday machine.

 

i will change as soon as they offer mobile i7 overclockable with dual gfx cards

as soon as that comes along i will change

 

I am married to the M17x....it will be a new laptop or a new girlfriend most likely

Fortunately, the current M17x is plenty for a notebook so I should be ok

 

yeah, that's what i thought....5 laptops ago... starting in feb 08
dv9740us
fx6831
fx6860
fx7811
np9262

 

the last 2 on your list flirted with my imagination at one point

But like I said, the problem isnt me, it is the girlfriend

 

change the GF


....i did.....

 

depends on how your going about things as well.

this for me is a career move not a part time thing. so i have many pc's around me every day. this pays the bills and does quite a bit more. they dont like it.."get ta stepp'n"
lol

 

regardless, I am very happy with both the gf and the laptop for now lol

She will win over a laptop for me anyday (I know, my true colors are shown haha)

 

my other half just accepts it nowadays

 

Heheh. What's up with that i7 talk on the Studio 15. Clarksfield quads are still 45-nm and too big/hot to fit in a 15" laptop like the Studio 15 and Arrandale dual cores are still a ways off.


MSI is claiming they'll have an i7 Win7 notebook up for sale by the end of the year. With MSI's history of using ATI cards it'll be interesting to see if they're also first to use the 5000 series DX11 cards for a true Win7 ready notebook.

http://gizmodo.com/5345017/intel-ne...dows-7-launch-an-awesome-time-to-buy-a-laptop

 

man, i was thinking hell to the no, but it seems the i7 mobiles are now becoming a reality...still wont buy one with an ati card in it though..way to many issues with them cards right now.

 

i think we will see the first ones in q4 but it will take several months to come to market i dont think we will see them in consumer hands until prob q2 2010

 

Brand new machine, Q9300, SLI GTX280M's, 6 gig of ram.

Vantage results:

Overall:9755
GPU:9586
CPU:10300

Should they be better than this?

I saw a post from somebody who's Vantage score was 9900 and He seemed pretty annoyed that it was "this low".

I haven't changed any drivers yet.

 

that is low yes

stock for 2 x 280's should be just over 10k

 

The problem Is you drivers update those

 

that score is within the normal range for all stock settings. Some tweaks in the OS and a driver update will help it go over 10k

 

My new M17x is working a lot better than the old one; no stutter issues (still on BIOS A00) and it is benching higher.

Over 15k in 3DM06 with the QX9300 at 2.93GHz/11x.

 

thats more like it

concerning they would send out a unit that had a fault, if your going to send a unit for review one would think they would check the unit is perfect first to save embarressment...

 

Exactly. You would think that review units get major TLC and QA before sent.

 

Interruption here. Read about a dozen pages here (only have set it to 75 total)

How much should I be getting on this thing using Vantage? Specs in sig, No Raid setup. No overclocking. Everything stock.

P 7907

GPU: 9315
CPU: 5440 (This thing seems to really hate duos not overclocked...)

Using 186.82.

Last night I updated my graphics drivers without uninstalling the previous 179.85 ones. It asked me to uninstall (it did it by itself) then rebooted and installed. Should I do a clean install now that I am less angry? Or it won't make a difference?

 

It doesn't hate duos it just shows thier comparitive power when compared to a quad on an optimised system.

But with twin 260's I would be pleases to only be 1k down on the 280's at stock!

My 280's score about 10400 stock on gpu

 

Well I didn't save or submit the score, but just hit 13001 CPU score on vantage

The GPU score was lowish (overall wasnt over 12k) so is why I didn't save, just thought I would throw that out here

Thats with QX9300 @ 3180 MHz and DDR3-1272 (4 GB G.Skill)

 

With PhysX was my best Run P13.9k.

(Edit my Sig. Mom pls. ... Done.)

 

Has anyone been monitoring their MCP Temp?

When gaming, my cores on proc are mid 50's Celsius
The gpu's are upper 50-60's c
the 9400 (gpu 3) never gets above 70
The MCP temp is 75-84 ish
Is that typical to run so much hotter?
Just curious if anyone else is monitoring the MCP..

 

Sorry for not responding to you on this subject. I went home and just crashed last night. Never even turned on my M17x.

 

Its ok. I figured something came up. No worries.. It happens.. I have done that many times.. Lay down on the couch after work to watch some tv for a bit and the next thing I know is I am waking up a couple hours later.. ahaha

 

I am afraid we are only focusing on non physx scores.....what do you get without physics? My scores are all with PPU Disabled

 

you know...the real reason behind not using physx was because ati cards didn't do well with it on futuremark.com.

on the flip side though

all ati owners want you to run AA enabled. which is where they do well at.

but in the end after your done testing for a super high gpu score...you really need to see if the whole thing is stable by running the full test twice(test 1-4). once with physx enabled and once without. (just a suggestion is all)

 

I see, well so far I am at P12081, working on getting past Mandrakes score of P12111

Stay posted

 

wtg scook9!!

congratz on making the p12k mark!

 

I thought the best extreme scores were with sli 295's though?

 

true, but that's vantage

the AA im talking about is in games. it's no secret that the ati cards are far better at MSAA than the gtx is. and that seems to be the only AA most want to test. while there are other variations of AA where the gtx does far better at. when using MSAA it cuts a gtx pretty much in half for some reason.(dont know, not the AA expert. it's only what i have tested and seen) where as the same MSAA gives the ati cards a boost in performance. how?
example:
if you put a 1000 pound weight on your car, it is not suppose to go 1/5th faster.

 

unless that weight makes it mad

 

ATI just uses better, more efficient algorithms in how it processes the graphical data when using AA....

 

Well i know why ATI cards perform better with MSAA and especially in Capcom gamesl like Devil May Cry . They use DX10.1 for there AA and with that it almost comes free and actually can bring up the numbers vs lowering them . Nvidia saw no need for 10.1 until now that is . Tsk Tsk Nvidia .

 

Didn't know that 10.1 had better MSAA algorithms...

+rep

 

that makes sense quad. i use to wonder why it was so hard for me catch the ati's in dmc4 while running 8x MSAA, but when running 8xQ i was just shy of beating them with a 9800m.

can you run it with 8xQ enabled Quad

better algorithms?..ati designed for quality while nvidia designed for performance

but now with the other AA's..nvidia is slowly catching them and in some cases passing them.

edit:
and most of this stuff is based on the user and how long they are willing to spend to improve on ones settings.... took me quite a long time to catch an ati card running 8x msaa on dmc4...like a month of testing to be exact..lol but i caught them. just couldn't out right beat them.

 

Out of the box I was getting:

Vantage
9755
9586
10300

X3:TC Rolling Demo
48 FPS

After upgrading to 186.81 and A02:

Vantage
10175
10120
10342

Well pleased with that.

And

X3:TC Rolling Demo
60FPS!!

That's a 25% improvement!

Sweet as a squirrels dinner!

 

I'm not hearing good things about Nvidia's new tech and DirectX11 support though. Primarily being that most of the DX11 features will be handled by software/drivers through their "general-purpose" cores. ATI on the other hand has had their GPUs designed to handle DX11 features like Tessellation since before it got yanked out of DX10.

We'll see how that affects performance when the cards are out though. (Side Note: ATI is claiming RV870 will perform 1.6x better than RV770)

My take on it all is ATI designed for their GPUs to work with CPUs while Nvidia designed for their GPUs to steal some of Intel's business.

 

So important, that info.!

People overlook the fact that your DX 10.1 cards support a very cool key feature.

- Almost zero-performance hit from MSAA.
- Much better performance under DX10 with MSAA.
- Actual ability to integrate proper MSAA with an engine that employs deferrred rendering - this is almost impossible with the Nvidia's slightly enhanced DX10 support. I read somewhere that their cards had 'some' of the DX10.1 components, but not all. I believe the 180 series-onward drivers had a way to exploit and implement AA in DX10 games like Far Cry 2, but it was limited and no where near as efficient and tight as proper DX 10.1 rendering.

ATi have done some really nifty things with their GPUs, but Nvidia are still ahead for reasons such as market-power and better drivers.

 

As time presses on im becoming a bigger ATI fan then i have ever been and less of an Nvdia one.

@phinagle It would make sense from a financial standpoint for ATI to make there cards work better with faster CPU's because of the whole AMD/ATI thing and Nvidia not giving a darn since they have 0 vested interest in either CPU company.

 

Yup pretty much Quad. Another way of saying it is ATI doesn't mind their GPUs just being GPUs while Nvidia wants their GPUs to be CPUs as well.

Nvidia wants so bad to grow up and be big and strong like Intel, Microsoft, or even Apple that they've even begun to try and throw some muscle around with CUDA and refusing to support some DX10 features when it came out.

 

all very good points and heard about the new cards as well. the problem
out of 1000 games..like 10 (pure speculations as to the actual number, but no where neat 90 percent is for sure)have dx10.1 (need more titles to follow suit on dx10.1 and higher) also, if they dont market the new games with openCL then ati users will have to use an nvidia card for physics. (which about 99 percent will not be doing) so having a dx10.1 game with physx should be very interesting...and that goes for dx11.

the loop...ati pushing nvdia and nvidia is pushing intel and intel is pushing amd. full circle back to ati/amd..they already helped to drive prices down, which is good thing for all!

to bad it's only and handful of games running in dx10.1 mode.
so im guessing nvidia stuck with the masses instead of expanding..(guessing)
and taking on intel..well that's a whole other issue..LOL.. 480 cores vs 4 cores...hummmm....
(information purposes)
and now there is a new sli bridge to run 4x single card gtx 285's (more video memory & faster clocks on a 512 bit bus) so i guess we see how well they fair...

 

Didn't know that was a goal. I wasn't really trying to see how high I can get my overall score. I'm trying to get a hold of some new ram before continuing. So far no luck.

 

it should have always been the overall score...(personal opinion)

let me re phrase that..
when dealing with same cards...over all score. defines who had the better over all clocks/tweaks & settings to get through a successful run. (in that category)

competition - best setup wins. no matter if you have 10 for gpu and 100k for cpu
gpu competition - just that gpus vs all over gpus
cpu competition - cpu vs all other cpus

 

The overall score was greatly hampered by my x9100. Wasn't breaking any records with it.

 

After a round of Vantage



MCP is running hotter but it does do a lot so I guess it's no surprise.

 

best computer is just that. with what ever is in your machine at the time of benching.

this was a big old argument around the notebook high end gaming/workstation computer. people thought "best bang for buck" meant fastest laptop on the planet..WRONG! means you got what you paid for. to get fastest laptop on the planet. you had to spend and the newegg version was not going to cut it. means you had to install upgrades and enhancements... thus killing the whole bang for buck fastest computer on the planet theory.