Well I take it back from above, AW/Dell have realised how much extra the M17x would cost them; so are meant to be issuing me a full refund. A shame I wont get the 4870s but I'll live![]()
Only downside is theres no compensation for how much they messed me around, but at least I'll have my money back!
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Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
You can still order yourself an M17x. They are well worth it
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Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game
Not in the UK they're not. The price difference is in the order of over $1000, our M17x base price without upgrades is a little shy of $3000, before I even add GPU upgrades etc.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
True that, forgot you are over there. Clevo here you come!
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the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear
Why didnt the uk join the euro instead of sticking with ponds or pounds. We all would benefit from that. the euro vs dollar would be much better then now
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
better for who haha....it is a bad time to be an american on the international currency arena lol
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Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game
Haha, yeah, its not the currency rate causing us problems 3vil, its people taking the mick on profit margins etc, we do have extra taxes etc, but they in no way make up what AW charges extra here.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Ya I can't blame you on that call. I personally am going to wait it out for GT300 mobile cards though just because it is looking like all nvidia parts play together much better than mixing ATI/Nvidia (see the thread about ATI CF and raid haha)
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the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear
ik know US is in bad shape but the difference it would make for us would be even bigger. you wouldnt lose a thing unless you visit europe. They would have to drop prices or people would go straight to US for import...i think lol. Im not trying to be a smart guy here just something crossed my mind when i read the post haha. moments like thst happen rarely so gotta share it when it happens lol
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Since I never posted it up for all to see, here is the HDTune result for my WD3200BEKT drives in RAID 0
And the result of the single Corsair x128 SSD
And after some OS tweaks:
And Corsair says only about 240 MB/s
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the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear
great boost me reckons. Next year it's my turn SSD's in raid, ill see which ones are best price/performance when i buy them.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I preferred the single SSD over RAID HDDs because the RAID seemed unstable to me. And the less parts the better in my mind - less parts to fail.
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You can use 90000^10*pi.999 hdds in raid 0 and one SSD will still better, raid make access time even bigger and it's the biggest problem in HD's
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
look at the access time on my raid setup I posted, it is HIGH
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Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game
Was 14.4ms wasnt it? Thats not that high at all, your average HDD is usually 12-18ms so 14.4 was fine. Shame raid didnt like you, seemed fine on my m17
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I noticed something tonight that has just started over the past several days, wonder if it has anything to do with my low bench scores. Check out the pic and let me know what you think.
I think someone had a post similar to mine, but I was unable to find it.Attached Files:
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Those temps are cool. I wouldn't worry until you get close to or above 90C.
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I have known that those temps are ok, but there used to be near uniformity among the temps. Basically, each line of temps was within 2 degrees of one another.
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The temps between the cores should be similar. Why would you think this is causing an issue?
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uneven thermal paste
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Thought the temps might be an issue because whenever I would reach a graphic intensive part of any program things would start to chug along after a while. Even WoW has caused multiple driver failures at stock settings(gpu and cpu), but luckily it comes and goes.
Since the temps were already high on 1 of the three reads for each core and gpu, I assumed as the overall temps increased and the high temps continued to increase, a down clock would occur.
I cleaned the fans and internals again, pulling out all the dog hair and dander that had collected since last week. I have an Akita and his is still shedding his summer coat. After cleaning, the temps have evened out a bit, and I am now testing high air flow cloth for a filter. -
Aristotelhs2060 Notebook Virtuoso
do you really see any difference when overclocking the gpus?
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When overclocking the GPUs the temps rise faster, but as for games, no change in fps.
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the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear
Hey moo, you should add MSI afterburner to your list. thx
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Just took a quick look at it. Looks really good. Going to have to try it when the new system arrives. Hopefully this thread will wake up again in a couple weeks.
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the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear
Yeah but maybe we should start a fresh one, we cant expect Moo to do everything around here so it might be a good idea that somebody else starts a new thread and keeps it clean and updated. Maybe add a top ten score on the first page and so on. Im a little new to this but if nobody else is up for the task i would be more ten happy to do it. and if they have questions about how to do their drivers and bla bla bla they can still come here. another way to keep the new one clean (i now, wishfull thinking but if you pm badboy on helping out its possible)
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Yes the problem is the random chatter. (like we are doing now, lol) We can't control that and then the thread gets thrown into the side topics where technical threads go to die. Maybe a mod can assist.
If you plan on doing it just keep it updated and be prepared to run a lot of benchmarks yourself. I know when my system comes in and don get his we will start flooding the thread.
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the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear
I know but here is my idea.
Title that clearly says benchmark results thread, read first page before posting!!!!
on the front page explain what can be posted and what not + put link to Moo's thread for questions about how to benchmark.
a top 20 results of vantage scores.
and show the best nvidia and ATI result for comparison.
Then pm batboy and chaz for there help.
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Go for it.
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the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear
I just wish there was a way to have (SLI) threads
you know keep both posts next to eachother.
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With the amount of posts in this thread it's time for a "Part 2" anyway.
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the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear
okay talk later gotta run.
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The 'M17x Benchmarks Part 2' thread will be made shortly. In the meantime, continue posting benchmark results/benchmark related questions here.
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the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear
COuld you name part 2 The M17x Benchmarks Info thread please thx and keep the first page info then offcourse
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
It is something haha. Ran it a few times so it is officially a benchmark
(all stock speeds). Not sure why the memory is so low, it used to score 7.0
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I think it is the Nvidia chipset that causes wee wei memory scores. Did you have 9400m enabled with 280m's in BIOS when you ran it?
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
yes that was with hybrid SLI enabled to boost performance
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The Nvidia chipset steals memory bandwidth, I think it is recommended to get more, I cant turn off the 9400m on mine and have never got more than 5.9 for memory score. My next upgrade will be 6 or 8gb memory. Been waiting for the prices to come down, Newegg has an 8gb kit for around $400 but it sells out quickly everytime they get it in stock.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
wow that is a great price!
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7-7-7-20@1066? No thanks.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
thanks to YOU Mandrake I am a memory snob now lol
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the3vilGenius 3vil knows no fear
Guys the Benchmarks results thread is up
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Look at it as I if saved you $300.
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Part 2 of the M17x Benchmark Results thread can be found here. Prior to posting, be sure to review POST# 1.
M17x Benchmarks thread !!!
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