M17x refresh buyers- why not wait for ATI 5870's??

I know how you feel this is my 3 laptop and I have some gaming issues. But no overheating issues.

 

Is your 720QM combined with the 4870 sufficient for gaming? Or do you wish you had gone with a 820QM/920XM?

 

I dont worry about cpu power. Most games do not use it. I have a i7 q720. playing crysis I have not seen one cpu hit 100% That 2.8ghz. 50fps in crysis. I do see computer spikes.

Games that would use it Civilaztion 5. Becuse it caculations. But I think they would make it Multi core and use it to speed up the game. Sim city Where grapics is not the main thing but the controling the AI that where I see cpu power useage.

 

Really? even if it's not DDR 5

 

Isn't that also like an 18+ inch laptop with triple HDD capacity, I mean that thing is a monster in it's own right.

 

The frist m17x Not the M17x could support 3 500gb hard drives. One would be a Hotswap hard drive. Which would mean you could have 1.5tb of space. be able to buy More hard drives and use it as extras.

I know I had the system. I was going to buy 3 extra hard drives. but the sucker was a hot pocket. 110c on one of the gpus.

 

Neither is the 285. The 4870 is second only to the 5870.

 

Where's that put the Mob. HD5850 GDDR5.

 

According to the always 100% accurate notebookcheck well below it. Anyone here have benchmarks on it?

 

Review of the MSI GX640 has some. Keep in mind though the highest it can go is a 1680x1050 resolution (and some of the runs they did are even lower). It's also only got an i5 in it.

http://translate.google.com/transla...50/4/&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1


In fact it looks like Notebookcheck uses the 3dMark06 score from that review and averages it out it with the GDDR3 version of the Mob HD5850 from the Acer Aspire 8942G as their basis for ranking the Mob. HD5850.

 

On those benchies the 5850 is not so great. A little bit better than 260 GTX.

Lol those toys are what I have been through since the time I sold the M17x. What I'm having now is not enough for an M17x

 

I sensed the sarcasm in that post

 

No kidding

Seriously, they are very good, if you know how to read their data

 

I would put it as "a usefull base" instead of "very good"...

 

I'd put it as "a useful database" but there are simply not that many sites out there focused on the mobile segment with vast and convenient databases, diversity of reviewing angles, etc.
If they put 285Ms above 4870s - you don't have to jump to conclusions, just look around and analyse their data.
They are still among the best out there, IMHO.

 

I think that statement is true. There is no one out there that test mobile cards like they do and their CPU bench are quite correct. I think where the GPU bench are not always correct is because they test them with machine that don't always make the best come out of the hardware.

Just as a 4870 is not going to be as powerful on an M11X "if you could put there" compared to an M17X due to power, voltage, motherboard, manufacturer's settings, drivers, etc...

 

So much for the March release rumors regarding the 5870s. Maybe April...

 

Don't get me wrong. I find their site useful allright, aslong if the data in it isn't wrong. But that's a littlebit hard for a noob to judge. So based on that it can give people wrong impressions. And that's a pitty.
IMO Germans make mostly good quality products, so if errors are spotted, I guess they will be fixed.

No comment... "sigh"

 

I doubt it comes out in April as well perhaps late april though, I bet it'll be really expensive when it first comes out. I still can't believe that there is this kind of anticipation for an ATI card, way to go ATI in terms of Comeback vs Nvidia.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=6091153#post6091153 Whoa.....

 

The card is actually cheap. There are other reasons. Plus, Dell is usually slow, even in the high-end segment.

 

All,
I'm new here and have been lurking on this topic for a while. I'm waiting on a M17X with the 5870(s), my XPS 1710 died last week and I had to pull the I9100 out of cryostorage, if you could hear this thing you would back up, the dog will not even come close to this thing as the fans are making so much noise. Hope the 5870's come sone and are SLI. Don't really want the 4870(S) as I tend to buy high end and use them for a while. Hope they come soon as the I9100 is not going to hold up much longer, hope the 5870's drop in the next week or so.

LeeU

 

Ahh so that was you on the facebook group, lol I asked the 5870 question

 

Yes that was me, I'm getting real nervous about this I9100. The now dead XPS 1710 was the replacement for this computer. On the Dell site this morning @ 5:30 AM the 4870's were a 5 day wait, by 6:30 AM they were a 11 day wait. I was hoping that was a tell tell sign that Dell was getting ready to drop the 4870's and replace them with the 5870's, guess not.

LeeU

 

Not really sure. GPU delays from 8 days to 5 days, and now 11 days. Nothing happened. Maybe people can not wait any longer and decide go with 4870s, that's why they have a stock shortage ATM.

 

thats what i was doing but i finally pulled the trigger this morning since i havent seen an update on the websites and all the people who know an "insider" who claimed they were just a few weeks away in early march were obviously wrong.
Oh well, I'm sure i'll be happy with the 4870's.

 

Seeing how the M15x just got the bios update for the 5870m, it looks like the refresh is coming very very soon. I'll be putting in an order for two cards

 

Strongly agree. If M15x get single 5870, there is no reason Dell put single 5870 into M17x as well. or maybe CF is not ready and we will even see M15x upgrade earlier than M17x

 

I wonder whose going to get them first, the person who orders the 5870 m17x or you via spare parts.

 

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I'm looking forward to the refresh, I hope I can get my hands on a pair of MR5870's.

 

I like the News of the M15x A05 Bios which is clearing bumbs for the 5870 card. Except I don't know what I'm about to do if the M15x gets the premiere...?

I only need one strong card, so the M17x with Crossfire 5870 would be somewhat of an overkill, but I do like to have the M17x because it's bigger and can house more dual configurations.

Can somebody check if the M17x currently supporting m5870 cards? Or do we get an BIOS update first?

 

Support will probably come in the upcoming A03 bios.

 

does someone know where to get those 5870 mobile mxm cards? I would try (M17-R2) if i can buy one somewhere.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=472596

 

Okay, thats a bummer then... I suppose this means we'll just have to wait.
It can't be very long now. I'll give them another week.
And then I'll pull the trigger on the 4870cf config. Only because my gf starts complaining about her Laptop permanently being occupied by me... She actually wishes me to order another one..

 

If the price is right, I will pick up two of them.. *crosses fingers*

 

Is there even any definitive answer that they're coming for this M17x? Also, resurrecting this thread

 

thread almost 3 months old and still no new card, bet you won't see them before the summer hits too from dell. i'll stick on the dual 4870 anyways. still work perfectly.

 

The thread was created around the time R2 was released. Everyone knew it would be a few months out back then.

 

Well the 5000 series drivers have showed up on Dell support for the SXPS if that's anything to go by (probably not).

 

well, AW DESKTOP get newest i7 980x already, LAPTOP can not get 5870s still, for now.

 

It's a lot easier to drop in a new processor that doesn't require anything to be changed except adding it's name to the BIOS than it is to upgrade graphics which require more power, move cooling, BIOS and driver changes, etc...

I happened across a posting on the Dell Community forums while I was searching for some info on the Alienware Area-51 and the i7-980X was mentioned at least as far back as December 2009, so they'd been working with it for quite a while prior to release.

 

Well, we all know it's coming the question is when... The problem is that there is no competition. Nvidia is not able to compete with ATI therefore there is no reason for anyone to come out with a solution that would only compete with itself.

 

i mean from 980 been officially released to DELL adopt it, not the rumor start. It should not be that difficult for testing. We can see some others already use 5870. i think two accepted reasons are marketing behavior and making 5870 into crossfire.

 

Heh not everyone....I remember a few people predicting i7s and 5800s would be in the M17x by last Christmas.

I'm still saying June.

 

ASUS is pushing hard it's 5870 machines ... I'm actually surprised that it's taken this long for Dell; with no end in sight as of yet. Newegg is suddenly getting a whole bunch of ASUS 5870 machines; Of course they all miss the CrossFireX 5870 solution which is my whole point of wait for AW to put one out.

It just needs to happen!!

 

I think the 5870 are now readily available but the issue must be the crossfire. Dell might have an issue implementing a stable crossfire solution with the 5870's.

 

There might be truth to this. They appear to even have problems putting up a stable crossfire solution for 4870s as well. Mine works fine, but it appears that many a M17x-R2 owner's slave crossfire card or cable hasn't been working properly out of the box.

 

I agree 100%.

 

I actually think they are successfuly tested already but the issue is the supply. After all, you'll need 2 cards per laptop so that would requite a sufficient stock supply before offering it with the systems.