M17x refresh buyers- why not wait for ATI 5870's??

so then dual 4870 is still faster then one 5870. for us dual carders not worthy yet

 

Yes, for most things the dual 4870's will be better.

However, if a game doesn't scale properly with CF or SLI then the single 5870 will be king.

 

true but most games i play scaled perfectly on sli. 5870 is nice card for the m11x and m15x systems. we M17x guys like to go crossfire otherwise i would have bought a m15x.

 

I always prefer a single card solution over a dual card when possible.

And I highly doubt the M11x is getting the 5870. lol

 

5870 in a M11x, wouldn't that be nice.

Now watch engadget post this.

 

hehehe rumourville...
noting else to do then wait for dell to provide dual 5870 cards.

 

I know, right?!?

I have sent engadget tips when something is available that isn't known (I was the first person here to use the configurator on the M17x - not sure if you remember but I used a e-value code from the catalog that was sent before the system was available but it worked).

Anyway, I sent them that and they didn't post crap.

They would rather post rumors about a refresh in hardware, which is like not hard to guess really.

 

i bet they release the m15x with 5870 first. I havent heard of a 5870x2 and ATI/AMD does not have a 5870x2 mobility listed.... do you guys think it will even be offered this year?

 

yes

/10char

 

I was told today around Dec for 5870 SLI by a Dell rep, the guys over at Blackhawk say very soon. Has any one noticed on the Dell EPP site the i7 button does not work to configure a M17X, the rep told me that you will not be able to buy M17X's on EPP any more????????
LeeU

 

Man, this whole 5870 upgrade is really dragging for AW. I know that the 4870 is still fast and amazing card but no matter how you look at things, the gpu is already a year and a half old. In computers world, that's an eternity. What's also funny is the fact that M17x is advertised as a "gaming" laptop but ironically the part that always gets upgraded last is the part that matters most in gaming i.e. the gpu. Nevertheless, it's still one of the best gaming laptops out there so that's why I'm waiting to see what will happen before I pull the trigger

 

The mobile version came out last fall and the "ASUS" version came out last spring, it's not that old.

 

thats crazy, how can they not offer EPP anymore?! And yes they are dragging feet... clevo based systems have them already! i really want an AW m17x but if they dont have 5870's by Aug im going with the asus g73jh-a1

 

I would not sell my 4870's EVER! They are great for gaming and benchmarking

 

I trust Dell reps so much, if they said 1+1=2, I'd triple check it.

It doesn't make sense if they remove the best laptop from their EPP offer. Usually when you go to configure something on the EPP site, they offer more powerful configurations.

 

I check every morning if the 5870's have hit overnight, this morning when I saw that the configure button was not working and saying check back later my heart fluttered and my hand was reaching for the credit card as I thought the 5870's were going to drop any minute, I was wrong, RATS!!!!! And no, I don't think Dell is "not" going to sell the M17X on EPP, why would they not???
LeeU

 

If something were to change it would be to the home site first. I bet the M17x i7 works again on EPP by tomorrow. If it really is gone everyone should try to call to get the discount. If the rep says no then try a different rep.

 

i wonder what changes there making

 

I ordered mine today, but it was in a cart for a week.

 

lol, smart man.

 

We will see how smart if the 5800s come out 21 days after I get my system

 

That sure is gonna suck if they do..

 

There is an EPP promotion until the 18th for Boeing employees. 21% off instead of 16%. My guess is this is the reason.

 

Then they should have pulled it when that started.

 

I just spoke to an alienware tech support guy and asked him about the new cards. He provided some interesting info:

M15x will be receiving NVIDIA 400 series card, too bad I knew nothing about them so I did not ask which one, but I guess GTX 480 or 470. He said the card is not yet released for laptops but it will be. Furthermore, he said that he has no info about the plans to put 5870 in the M15x.

M17x will be receiving both NVIDIA 400 series and 5870s!

He said that the info he has is usually for 3 months in advance, so the ETA for the cards can be anytime from tomorrow to summer.

 

Ahhhhh mannn....if that info is true then i'm in for a long wait....i wanted a 5870 too in the M15x
hmmmff

 

of course they will. both M15X AND M17X will receive new cards, the question is when!

 

Well I'm just pointing out that according to the rep M15x will recieve NVIDIA instead of ATI, while M17x will get both options.

 

I'm still ticked about no Alienware EPP, they dumped 2 computers I had in my basket from EPP as well. Boeing gets 21%, I serve in the AF for 27+ years and get nothing.
LeeU

 

I'm still ticked about no Alienware EPP, they dumped 2 computers I had in my basket from EPP as well. Boeing gets 21%, I serve in the AF for 27+ years and get nothing.
LeeU

 

Boeing=EPP. No discount for EPP means no discount for boeing.

 

So when did he receive this info? please tell me it was 3 months ago

 

I understood that he just has a list of future updates which is constantly updated. He clearly did not know when the info about the new cards was added since he does not usually check it.

 

Didn't they update the bios on the M15x to support 5870's? Why would they do that if they are putting 400 series cards in it?

 

Well, you know about these Dell/Alienware "sources"...can't be trusted.

 

Idd

/10char

 

I'll bet $20 that 5870m will come to the M15x.

 

i hope the m17x gets dx11 cards soon, preferably nvidia, but 5870 will do as well

 

If the m17x gets the 480 first I would jump on it even though I think I'd rather have ati cards

 

Hmm the 3 month thing lines up with reports that mobile Fermi is coming in June.

Can I get 3:1 odds?

 

It would be strange to write a M15x BIOS for specifc HW and afterwards to abandon it. I would think it as very unlikely.

First; It costs DELL AW time=money to write a BIOS. So this will probably be a well thought over marketing strategy to prepare the machine for latest tech.

Second; I haven't seen any high end mobility GPU movement in the NVIDIA camp (no news of a competative 480 card). The only news I heard where some 6 cards which were presented behind closed doors in Germany last month.

So my guess is that your REP (just like mine) has a big thumb, out if which a lot of speculations are sucked.

 

the only problem with your thinking is that you think the cards are going to be in the m17x the moment nvidia releases them. look how long its been since ati released the mobile 5870. yet we are still waiting(which is beginning to really irritate me)

 

I think you have to see things in perspective here. Often but not always AW releases cards soon after the official manufacturer's release date. The only reasons that Dell has taken so long to implement the 5870's in the M17X is because of the following:

1. There might some issue with crossfire solution with the 5870's (No one has crossfire 5870's yet)

2. There is no competition and the 4870's are top of the line. Why compete with yourself??? It's not cost effective.

3. There won't be any major release of new technology for laptops until early/mid 2011 besides the Fermi based GPU and the 5870's crossfire. Might as well take time to implement them so you are not left for 6 months without anything new.

 

I would like to note that allthough this thread is about the M17x-R2 the talk was about the M15x with a 5870 card...

Allthough I must say you have got some points there about the M17x and 5870...

 

yeah but it would be nice if they actually told us the truth. so those of use waiting can actually make a choice to wait or not. the money i have is slowly disappearing out of my pocket. when I'd rather spend it on a m17x with a dx 11 card and a quad processor. If they actually came out and said "its going to be at least six months before we release crossfire 5870m." I would put my money somewhere where i can't touch it until the cards come out. As opposed to keeping it handy so i can buy it the first day it shows up on there sight. Each month the card doesn't show up. I end up spending a little until i don't have enough

 

Well, let's be honest. You will most likely see crossfire 5870's before the Fermi release in June. I would say they would start going on sale by the end of April maybe as late as the end of May.

The other issue is the 940XM is coming out in June or July so why not wait for the 940XM and 5870's together. Order your PC in July.

 

Why don't you put it on a savings bankaccount? I have done it, now I get interest instead of spending it on...well...nothing...

But dispite I would like these announcements to be made by Dell AW, I think this will be unlikely aswell, pure out of a marketing perspective. (They would have to scrap all their 4870 cards, because new cards are out)...

I'm not interested in a better CPU... so for me this is a bad argument (which is also way out of my budget). Dell AW will charge the jackpot for that one!

 

By the way since this is taking so long, I am starting to wonder if they will just pass on the 5870's crossfire and just go directly to the 5970's crossfire.

 

5970s? lol. The 5870s are coming. Sooner or later but the rumors of new nVidia cards are new to me.

 

Well I was being sarcastic but yeah the Fermi based cards are supposed to come out in June. The question is how long will Dell take to put them into a PC and if they will even be of any value...