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    M17x-R2 flickering stats by cpu type

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by mfractal, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. The Revelator

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    Quad, thought you were getting the R2 today!
     
  2. SpinalGT

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    I am really considering in returning it and buying another brand. I'm sick of Alienware.
     
  3. The Revelator

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    Wrap it up and send it home. Your issues go beyond the flickering issue. Shouldn't have to deal with all that in a new computer.
     
  4. Mandrake

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    Never mind to this post.....more delays. :mad:
     
  5. WaR

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    Hopefully it will be in time with your M17x replacement. I think your current one has some additional issues.
     
  6. The Revelator

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    Bummer . . . .
     
  7. Mandrake

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    Yeah I learned some important lessons here. Do not use cash for a pre-order and avoid Asus pre-orders because the dates are meaningless.
     
  8. sleey0

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    ^

    Yeah the blu-ray shortage is mind-boggling. I mean, what happened, is there really a shortage of blue diode lasers?

    Very strange.....
     
  9. WaR

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    Or imminent news that Blu-ray disks will finally be affordable.
     
  10. sleey0

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    I love my PS3, in fact I haven't gamed on it in about 9 months.

    It works pretty sweet to pump high-def content to my SXRD ;)
     
  11. Quadzilla

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    Nope it shipped today though :)... Fed ex just updated and it says it will now be here on the Thursday...
     
  12. Luigo

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    Mine is sitting at the local FedEx facility. Get it on the truck already will ya?!
     
  13. The Revelator

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    Mine's been in build since 1/22. Right now, can't decide whether that's a burden or a blessing.
     
  14. Speedy Gonzalez

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    mine is on ups. facility going back to dell :D
     
  15. SpinalGT

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    Are you returning to get the money back or a replacement?
     
  16. daniel.murphy4

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    I did run furmark just like it said in post 1 of this thread. and to make sure I ran it twice and still no flickering. I have only ran 1 game so far it was left 4 dead 2 maxed out it was before any updates so maybe now I will have flickering I hope not though. but so far so good. I havent overclocked yet either don't know if it will make it happen or not. and yes I am thrilled that I finally got something that I have wanted for about 10 years now. My screen is not rgb. but if I start having problems I will let you all know. then you won't feel alone . J/K.....
    I will be playing other games when I get them sometime this week or so.
     
  17. Quadzilla

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    Ahh i did not notice you didnt have RGB so that explains that...
     
  18. Luigo

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    Would the RGB LED draw more power? That could still point to a possible power issue if it does.
     
  19. Aikimox

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    That explains a lot. If that's true it's a deal breaker for me.
     
  20. sleey0

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    Well, RGB does draw more than WLED, but I doubt more than CCFL.

    I don't think it's the screen itself as others have hooked the machine up to an HDTV and had the same issues.
     
  21. Aikimox

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    It should actually draw less power and add more battery life than the LCD AFAIK.
     
  22. Luigo

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    Which is why I asked. If it draws more power that is more overall power for the laptop as a whole.
     
  23. SaosinEngaged

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    We all know I have the problem :D.
     
  24. sleey0

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    Yes, but daniel murphy has CCFL, which should draw even or maybe more than the RGB.
     
  25. Luigo

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    :p
    Ok, understand. I'm trying to beef up this power issue diagnosis :p
     
  26. WaR

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    Man, I am reading way too much into this flickering issue. I am on my Eee PC, when started noticing my mouse acting weird. I'm thinking, now my netbook is stuttering?

    Then I realized the light on the mouse is red meaning batteries are critically low. Can you say paranoid?
     
  27. vzachari

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    Brandon did connect the M17xR2 to an HDTV but only got flickering on Crysis. As far as I remember I got flickering on crysis on more than one occasion for more than one reasons, even on my desktop.

    I honestly do not think its the monitor per se. I do remember however that the throttling issue on the M15x i7 would improve by dimming the display which would be a direct indication of a power issue. If we could replicate this here on the M17xR2 then we could narrow it down to something like the power/thermal tables in the bios (I am just saying,for example, it could be anything).

    On a different topic, I tried searching for this but there are just too many posts. Is the flickering always associated with throttling? I remember someone posting some pics with the throttling issue but I am not sure if the flickering is associated with throttling or if its completely different.
     
  28. mfractal

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    Could you check your bios version please?
     
  29. Aikimox

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    Flickering in Crysis (when specific areas are flickering like clouds, tree shadows, etc) is a different issue and is driver related. Let's not mix everything up here.
     
  30. Quadzilla

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    Yeah i was going to say the same thing.. That cloud flickering or trees is nothing like the flickering we are seeing in the videos and are totally unrelated... IRC the Crysis flickering was either the game was not patched yet causing issues on ATI cards or a driver issue...
     
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    Could be a bad batch of CF cables for all we know.

    At this point, I hope Dell issues a few patches......
     
  32. Aikimox

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    100%. I'd say it's a driver issue since I have those with ATIs(R1) in most of the games.
     
  33. daniel.murphy4

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    my bios version is ao1
    video card driver version is 8.680.2.0
     
  34. ZenithNoesis

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    while i was running fur and prime 95, my system froze (no keyboard or mouse responsiveness)
     
  35. sleey0

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    Well, I cancelled mine guys. Sorry I won't be able to give results with the i7-620.

    I was going to get delayed again and also just bought a G73, so I am waiting this one out until these issues are resolved.
     
  36. Gshocker

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    Are they sending you an email about the dealys? I have only been checking the site and nothing has changed with mine. I am also getting the i7-620 so when I get mine I can run some tests.

    After reading all of these post I certainly hope I will avoid the flicker.
     
  37. sleey0

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    Rep called me.......
     
  38. Brandon1337

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    My test of a 920XM...
    NO FLICKERING AT ALL.
    I have no Idea whats going on..
    I was running prime95 and furmark with these settings at the same time.
    Got this:
    http://i46.tinypic.com/148n575.png
    (I had to try five different links so you can see it.)
    But absolutely no screen flickering at all.
    Here is my furmark config:
    [​IMG]
     
  39. sleey0

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    Didn't you say you were getting flickering like 10 pages ago? lol
     
  40. Brandon1337

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    Crysis flickering, with all the textures flickering around.

    I'm gonna go buy borderlands and see if it screen flickers.
     
  41. 0ri0n

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    along with the flickering, on a scale of 1-10, how bad is the buzzing/whine from the GPUs, if you even have a whine/buzz

    EDIT: looking for answers from anyone.
     
  42. Brandon1337

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    Can't hear anything because of the fans.
     
  43. ZenithNoesis

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    Where exactly do you buy an asus g73... its definitely not on their website...
     
  44. Mandrake

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    newegg has them.
     
  45. stargazer211

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    it seems some items are on backorder so thats why they are delaying the orders. could quite possibly be the RGB screens or maybe they are trying to solve the issues with the flickering before the situation becomes widespread.
     
  46. Docsteel

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    Don't forget the wireless card backlog, at least on top of the RGB panel this was told to me as a problem as well...
     
  47. livetaswim06

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    Darn now I am stuck not knowing, either risk the AW or get the G73. I jumped ship from the G73 right before the orders shipped out, now they have some at Newegg and I don't know whether to stay the course with the m17x or bail and go for the G73.
     
  48. Quadzilla

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    How much is the M17x setting you back compared to the G73 ?...

    I got a very good deal on my M17x so that is making my decision that much harder but if you paid an arm and a leg more for the M17x then certainly get the G73...

    Im staring at my G73 right now and its very nice piece of tech for the $$...

    My M17x will be here thursday(unless we get 4 feet of snow) so by monday ill have made up my mind which is the keeper....
     
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    Can't wait for that comparison, quad :D :D
     
  50. nburro

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    No flickering or weird artifacts. I ran furmark + prime95 torture test. GPU #2 only ran about 25-30% during most of the run (is that normal?) neither GPU went over 55C and CPU was high 60s-mid 70s under load.

    Config:
    i7 720QM, RGBLED, Dual 1GB ATi 4870, 500GB 7200RPM, 4GB DDR3 1333MHz

    EDIT: i put Kill-a-watt on and the system is only pulling ~160-170W during the torture test.
     
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