M17x-R2 flickering stats by cpu type

Lol yeah i bet they will be bleeding ... Thats whats going to make the decision so hard ...

 

Personally, now that there's a bios fix coming for the R2, I wouldn't give consideration to the Asus at all unless I was short on money. G73 vs M15x would be a tough decision for right now but as soon as the 5870m hits the M15x, then I'd rather pick that as well. Of course that's me and you know all about my love for Asus.

 

Yeah thats how i am feeling as well...

When do you get your machine back? and i wonder if they will have flashed a new special bios on yours for testing purposes ? ....

 

I get it back tomorrow if all goes as planned (will be driving down to AW HQ). As for the other part of your comment, we'll see

 

It really means no 64bit support for VMs.

 

Could you elaborate ?
I think i still can install 64bit guest os'es right ? the problem will be performance ?

 

My experience is with VMware's products and it prevents you from installing it without the hardware support.

 

i use VMware all the time too for work.
So 32 bit os'es will install fine and 64 won't ?

 

32 bit OS will work fine, I have Workstation 7 running on my old laptop just fine other than a little slow. We can't install 64 bit unless we can enable VT in the BIOS as VM will stop the install stating it's required and will halt it.

 

Correct. I don't recall the error message you get but it's not obvious to what the problem is. I actually forgot to turn it on one of my servers once.

 

Wonder why this is so, what does it gain Intel to put in this restriction, the marketing of some other chip line that the i7's would cut into?

 

I'm guessing there is a technical reason for it. I never looked too deep for the answer.

 

Off-hand, given your work on the m15x throttling work around, was there any word on what Dellienware is doing to fix this? It really is a stinking fish around Dellienware's neck right now...

 

Most likely a change to the throttling algorithm based on power draw. They could do the same for the M15x if they really wanted but probably feel the trade off isn't worth it. The M17x is obviously a very different beast in that regard.

 

Soooo.... The M17x has DCP latency issues that they seem to refuse to fix and this one is underpowered?

Seems like dell messed up alienware.

I received a M17x as a replacement system and im about to call them and request my old machine back. its pretty bad when i cannot play an MP3 without skipping/lag on a machine of this calibur.

 

Why don't you just sell the new M17x and buy something else?

 

Because i was happy with my M1730. I dont think i could resell this machine and repurchase another 1730. Resell value on computers is horrible. I would rather have something i know works rather then experiencing issues like we are seeing here.

I wonder if the M11x will be stable.

 

Not an intel restriction as far as I can tell looking at the PM55 documentation. Looks like AW/Dell just need to put the switch in the BIOS. From nagshead's comments in the R2 owners lounge thread, it sounds like they just never really considered something AW customers would want.

Think we should start a VT-x interest poll?

 

Obviously your M1730 wasn't working or Dell would have not given you an M17x

You can find people selling used M1730's if that's what you really want to do.

Resale value on the M17x is the best there is and you should have no problems getting some good money for it.

And then you could go buy whatever you feel is going to work with zero issues

 

Actually it was working fine. I got an exchange because one HDD failed and they were on backorder. They offered me and exchange. I accpeted hoping i would get this but i was unaware of the issues with the M17x at the time.

Im going to wait one more BIOS release and hope they fix the issues but if not ill resell or complain to dell/alienware.

Sorry i prolly seem like im just up a storm but im just frustrated. Its annoying to have this type of machine and not be able to do the simplest tasks.

 

Isn't this topic about gathering info to solve problems with the R2?

IMHO Dell didn't "mess up alienware". It is actually giving more people the option to get an Alienware. What did work fine for me.

 

They gave you a new system because a hdd went bad? No one is going to feel sorry for you now.

 

Damn right.

There are so many people around here that have had a plethora of nightmare issues and this joker gets a new system for a failed HDD.

Doesn't add up.

Dell could send him any drive above the size he already had and called it a day.

 

Im not asking for your pity, nor did i say that the reason i got an exchange was valid. Sorry if i offended anyone.

 

Have news for you... the XPS M1730 has DPC Latency Issues as well. Especially when Quickset's LightFX was sent to enable and the system was blinking system lights to the beat of the music... This is not just on the M17x. This issue was discussed heavily 1 1/2 years ago trying to get to the bottom of it.

 

He is clearly a fanatic. Thats just things that happen because they release things before they can properly test it. why do they do that, because we demand they do that. if they dont release fast they loose alot of customers.

 

LOL
Well, you could state that every laptop(manufacturer) has it's own shortcommings. We "the consumers" just have adress the makers on these issues. (And hope it will be solved, before it's outdated).

 

I'm not defending the bugs we have encountered or Dell's response to them. Obviously, I'm a consumer as well and am equally ticked off when things like this happen. I suppose my lack of response is due to my previous experiences with the M1730 and Dell over the failing 8800M GTX SLI card. Its more of a *facepalm* reaction.

In any case, my post was just to inform fanatic that the XPS M1730 has issues as well - DPC Latency is one of them (and that is on an Intel Chipset MB).

 

We know batboy we know. No need to defend yourself

 

I know Evil... just wanted to point it out. Hey, on another forum they say I work for Dell. lol

Anyway, back OT as Dutchy mentioned a few posts back.

 

Is the fix for the flickering issue official yet?

I am just scared they come out with the 5870's before the fix is there... That would be awful

 

I was just thinking about it. What I did is to pm the aw guy about it. And I know wwoods did the same.

 

You don't work for Dell?

I was certain you were the guy in charge of writing the BIOS

 

How could anyone favor a fingerprint magnet plasticy piece of poop over an aluminum edge-to-edge work of machinery? its kind of a no-brainer...

 

Zenith, I agree with you though I am really scared that the BIOS will not fix flickering and thousands of owners will have lifetime issues like with the R1.

 

does this flicker also happen on the single card machines?

AwHw

 

my r2 arrived on tuesday and boy do i love the screen i was dreading the flickering and sadly i joined the club just trying to play crysis. After what nag said about the bios update i feel better and took his advice and disabled turbo which was a temporary fix now i don't flicker.

 

I voted. 10char

 

On the Sager?

 

I just got my M17x yesterday and I have stuttering problems. I have a i7 720 system also... Was hoping that 720 wouldn't have a problem but it does on my system.

 

The actual flickering posted in some of the videos going around?

 

thats the second 720qm to have stuttering isn't it?

 

It's actually the first. The vote here on the poll looks bogous.

 

920XM - Not OC'd
8GB 1333 RAM
256GB SSD
Dual ATI Radeon Mobility 4870s
1920x1200 monitor

All hardware right off the Dell/AW shelves. No adjustments.

Noticed flickering in all games, especially during intense scenes, such as first Big Sister fight in Bioshock 2 and in intensive WoW battles, such as 25-man raids.

Flickering occasionally extends to second monitor, which is a Benq 22" running off of the HDMI port to DVI. However, the two do not always appear to be in sync in terms of the flicker.

Updated to beta 10.1 catalyst. No changes, though game framerate boost was quite noticeable.

 

Stuttering is not the same as intense flickering across the whole screen.

you could have a bad GPU or terrible drivers or any other number of things.

Watch people's videos showing the real flickering problem.

 

I just have a feeling its not going to be that way. People bent over and took it in the butt with the R-1. I returned mine.

I got a free upgrade to a 920XM (from an 820QM) because of my problems with the r-1 and now the r-2. I will be keeping my upgraded system no matter what now (you can't give up on a free 700 dollar upgrade) and if the flickering problem isn't fixed, I will call and complain every single day until it is. Every. Single. Day.

And everyone else should too.

 

Well guys add me to the Confirmed Flickering side with the i7-820qm sadly. I experienced it playing Mass Effect 2. I didn't see it until I started into heavy fire fights and the flickering is bad. I'm gonna try turning turbo mode off. If it doesn't work I'll have no choice to disable crossfire...and I went through the trouble of reconnecting my Crossfire cable...gonna break my heart if it was for nothing.

 

For what it's worth, I've tried several configurations with CrossfireX on and off, though this was strictly through software. No change.

 

Consider this thread dead. The new bios solves the flickering, I have it in my system and its working great. It should hit the Dell website in about a week or two max.

 

Awesome news joker!! I just finished reading your reports in the other thread.