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    M18x ? News article looks bogus

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by anexanhume, Jan 9, 2011.

  1. anexanhume

    anexanhume Notebook Evangelist

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    Dell Alienware M18x AMD Radeon HD 6970M IPTV & Gadget Review | U-verse Reviews | day after christmas sales 2010

    Sounds bogus but was worth posting.
     
  2. 5150Joker

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    It may be credible because this is the same guy that announced the R3 specs way before anyone knew much about it and he was almost spot on. I really hope this turns out to be true and Dell redeems the AW name.

    The original source: http://dell-lab.posterous.com/just-announced-alienware-m18x
     
  3. Partizan

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    Wow it would be awesome if AW would release an 18" model :d Ever since I use an external monitor I'm not content with 15-17 inch laptop screens. And with the new technologies one might even dare to hope that a normal person could lift this machine :d
     
  4. Villosa

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    Lol is this for real? Incredible if it is...
     
  5. Joebarchuck

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    That is not good news for me. I don't know if I should wait for it or just get the R3.

    What is strange is that the dell-postereous site does not say it's a rumor. It says "just announced".
     
  6. Phinagle

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    Figured this was what was stuck in Jerry's throat.

    Now you just have to wait 6 to 60 months for the launch. ;)
     
  7. Astrogiblet

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    Its interesting (if this is true) that they would use lower end 6870's and 460m's instead of top end gaming cards. Remember, the 6870 is a 5850 replacement... Even the 6950 (in desktops at least) doesn't beat the 5870...

    EDIT: Although, in the title of the article, it says 6970 instead of 6870..
     
  8. Docsteel

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    Interesting, but for a screen that large that resolution seems a bit low, but I imagine that would be the base spec. Sure hope it's true.... a high end SB with two cards would be a kick-butt rig... and thats a nice battery ;)
     
  9. Chamillitary Man

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    Sounds like a winner! Cross your fingers for a 485 SLI update and 1200P RGB Screen
     
  10. faiz23

    faiz23 Macbook FTW

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    485 dual and RGB plus tax and all that crap and imagine if you are an international buyer.....there goes your WALLET :eek:
     
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    aww great ive waited all this time for the R3 and now ur telling me a new one is going to be released?
     
  12. youven

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    great, more doubts in my mind now...
     
  13. FXi

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    There is another concurrent rumour that the 460M is getting replaced by the 560M. Don't know how good that thought is because the 460 is so new, but don't count out the concept of +3-6months +6xxx AMD and +5xx NV.

    I'd love a 485M sli, but that's probably not really possible. We'll see. All this says is the R3 isn't "the one" yet for me. For others yes, for me no.
     
  14. svl7

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    ...but you won't need to heat your room anymore... think positive :D

    But it still doesn't make any sense to me, not announcing it at CES... sorry.
     
  15. 5abivt

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    The r2 lid can easily fit an 18.4 inch screen. Thy would mean they could reuse the r2 chassis with newer video cards and you have an awesome machine. Coming from a MacBook pro I was disgusted when I first turned on the r2 to see black borders so big around the screen that it made the screen look like a 15" stuck in a 17" body.

    I will be excited to wake up tomorrow to see the website but I'll also be excited to hear of any news on an 18.4
     
  16. Predator4rmMars

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    The 'thought' looks bogus! 10char
     
  17. SOS4DELL

    SOS4DELL A Notebook Philosopher

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    Interesting: why do you think it 'looks bogus'?

    On the same, Joker think:
    To me it looks as a natural (and much asked and needed) growth... :confused:
     
  18. Astrogiblet

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    As awesome as I think 18"+ laptops are, I don't think there has ever been a successful one. Please correct me if I'm wrong but heres my timeline from memory:

    Acer had a 20" that was a huge failure.
    Dell had a 20" "briefcase" that was a huge failure.
    HP had/has an 18" that has mixed reviews and I don't think is a star seller.

    Maybe Alienware can finally popularize massive laptops, their target market seems perfect, but history is willing to argue against that..
     
  19. Mazdaspeed_6

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    I don't think it's gona happen. WLED screen? way outdated. If it is true, Dell won't make much money from it, and it would probably cost just as much as the clevo x7200.
     
  20. hrdyeus

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    I've only read the first page. Please, someone say this is a hoax. All we need is for AW to have another thing to not do right. God, and I thought that waiting was over.
     
  21. CitizenPanda

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    LOL... what?

    Most 24"-27" screens are 1920x1200 which is perfect.

    Most laptop screens that are 1920x1080 at 15-17" sizes are way overkill.
     
  22. CitizenPanda

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    There are a bunch of mainstream ones out there today, but they aren't going to be volume products.

    An 18" Alienware suits the market far better, considering that no one buying M17xs are moving them around, unless it's to their car and to a buddy's house for a Lan party.
     
  23. miahsoul

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    An 18" wouldn't be much bigger than a 17" considering that the M17x R3 which is probably single-gpu is also much smaller than the M17xR2. I'm assuming it's gonna be ever so slightly bigger than the M17x.
     
  24. Lp18

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    Dell must have saw the opinions about the new M17X-R3 and decided to make something new to calm the riot
     
  25. Astrogiblet

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    Yea, I agree.. if any market is going to accept an 18" or bigger laptop, its going to be gamers.
     
  26. Phat4rd

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    Feels like deja vu. Malx anyone. Think They're taking a step back.
     
  27. Thatguy1wastaken

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    Toshiba Qosmio and the Sager 8120 are the only one's I can think of...
     
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    Dell had a 20" business machine desktop replacement. M2010. Was more of a mobile desktop with integrated lcd.
    The malx 19" didnt do too hot.
     
  29. spradhan01

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    This thread is really making me excited.
    The website dell-lab.posterous.com can be trusted partially regarding its accuracy for R3 info and details.
    But 460M SLI doesn't seem right.
    Clevo are moving up with 580m a.k.a 485M in a 15" so AW must consider something big.
     
  30. bumbo2

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    460M in sli!!! Oh brother.
     
  31. Astrogiblet

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    Oh I forgot about that. Alienware's own large-screen failure!

    Yea, the M2010 was a terrible terrible laptop. Pain to work on, high failure rate, huge and VERY heavy.. had a built in handle just to lug the thing around.

    It was literally a folding desktop. Wireless bluetooth keyboard. There was no portability at all. Mini-ITX desktops were easier to lug around.

    It was definitely a neat machine, but when you end up packing that much stuff into a weird shaped case it becomes so tight that things are prone to overheating, plus they are a pain to work on.
     
  32. Phat4rd

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    I didnt mind the M2010. Did me well for 4 years. The concept was on target, like I hope they do with the M18x, Desktop power that was much more portable than a desktop. I travel everyday with my m17x and its a brute. I dont think the m18x would be that much worse. But I'm expecting desktop power from the M18x.
     
  33. 5150Joker

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    If the M18x is released, don't expect it to be much bigger than the M17x-R2. At most it will be about the size of an x7200 though I think Dell will make it less thick. There will never be a repeat of the M2010, that thing was underpowered, oversized and just ugly.
     
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    Yes it was powered by an ati XT2400M I think
     
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    I had an hp hdx dragon.. 20.3 and liked it alot. I ended ip selling it only because of 1 stuck pixel that Just ate at me. The bigger the better!!
     
  36. EviLCorsaiR

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    I'd definitely call it fake. The M17x is already announced and will have at least one 6970M (crossfire/SLi configs currently unknown). If they made an M18x it would definitely have 6970Ms, or there'd be no point to it.
     
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    Specs are up on the Alienware UK site and the M17x-R3 is just as weak as anticipated. In a way this serves as confirmation that we're definitely going to see something more from Alienware in the future. Jerry (NBR site admin) hinted at Dell having more up their sleeves and coupled with Eric G's announcement of M18x, it's looking like a given that we're set for a new more powerful model. If that is the case, I think Dell made a wise move with teh M17x-R3 to compete against the likes of Asus.
     
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    Is there any idea of a release date? I dont mind waiting for it but at least some sort of release date would help!

    And why they didnt announce it at CES is mind boggling....
     
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    They wouldn't announce a product that isn't ready for production. If I had to guess, I'd say we will see something about it within the next 3-5 months.
     
  40. Villosa

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    Yeah...I was hoping for an official announcement at CES or something from Dell's mouth lol. Cause I don't want to have to get the M17x-r2 and be stuck with a M17x-r3 or r4 or r5 as my only way out should something arise down the future.

    Though...just a thought...wouldn't the R3 NOT be an equivalent to the R2 due to it's single GPU configuration?

    We have to look out for ourselves now that Dell decided to shift the M17x towards a different direction.
     
  41. GoodToGo

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    3-5 months? That makes me a sad panda :(
     
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    Ya know it could be sooner, as early as March. I really have no idea and anyone's guess is as good as mine. Based on what AW has done in the past, they release products at CES, refreshes sometimes in March or late summer/early fall. If Eric G already announced M18x along with it's proposed specs, then production can't be far off assuming the rumored M18x exists. After he announced the M17x-R3, we were able order it a few months later.
     
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    When did Eric announce the R3?
     
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    He first talked about it 2 months ago: Dell News, Tips & Tricks - Filed under 'M17X R3'

    His latest comment regarding M18x:

    A year ago I was promised an AW notebook that would "blow me away" so here's hoping that AW engineer was referring to the M18x (which it seems more likely that he was).
     
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    Hmm...pretty accurate on his part. I hold high hopes for the M18x. Now, to return the M17x-r2 and wait or not lol?
     
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    If the R3 is any indication, then my guess would be 2-3 months. Painful as it is, I am sure the wait will be worth it.

    Thanks for your reply :)
     
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    I'd just hold on to the R2 and enjoy it. Even if there is an M18x, I don't plan to get it until the ivy bridge refresh (which is sure to own SB in performance). So any guesses on the screen Eric is hinting at? I'll hold out hope and say it's IPS.
     
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    I feel sorry for the guys that were on the verge of buying the r3 now it seems like even more waiting if you want the most powerful investment.

    If this is true the leak comes just after CES. Perhaps this is something they knocked up after all of the complaints. I suppose they can't release an r4 so quickly that will annoy people so they'll create an entire new model. Either that or it's spouted nonsense to give people hope so they don't buy a clevo or asus.

    Personally I think alienware have really messed up, they would have been better releasing a powerful 13 inch and dropping the m15x, that would of hit the market sweet spot and the m17x would of continued to be the beast with a dual setup. Now it's all messed up, there just isn't much differentiation between a 17 and 18 incher and the 'all powerful' gaming machine will be months after the technology is first available. Honestly the m15x is already too close in weight and size to the m17x for most consumers the choice just comes down to pricing. Now alienware have 3 oversized laptops to choose between and again pricing only sets them apart. Way to go alienware!

    If the new 18 inch design is true I imagine the m15x will be kept for a few years. No m13x. Really, really messed up.

    m11x, m13x, m17x would be brilliant marketing that fills the gaps across the board, why can't they see that?

    The problem is if you decide to stick with alienware you could be waiting months, possibly until the end of the year until you can get your hands on the technology you want in your hands now, by then there will be leaks of newer stuff will be out with benchmarks that will no doubt irritate you!

    If you have an m17x r2 or the newer m15x and want a new alienware you are better of waiting it out or buying the new Clevo if you are itching. I'm going to wait it out another year until they release something decent. Any of the newer systems plays games well anyway.
     
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    They've been working on the M18x for over a year now. It was vaguely mentioned to me when I visited Alienware HQ last year after R2 was released.


    My predictions of AW's complete lineup by the end of this year: M11xR3, M17xR3, M14x, M18x. The new M14x will be similar to the M17xR3 with all the multimedia features but have a smaller footprint and weigh less. I'm pretty sure this is the direction Dell is headed with AW and it's a good one.
     
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    Indeed, impossible to come up with something like this in just a couple of days an just because of us fanboys :D


    Nice summary, looking at the AW lineup this way it would finally make sense to me. Otherwise it would be a turn away from the gamer segment into the multimedia market.
     
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