M18x ? News article looks bogus

Yeah we were already discussing it last year: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6341912-post293.html

People that work with Dell and Dell/AW themselves were dropping hints of it for a while now.

I think Dell's goal is to make their non-flagship AW's more mediacentric but also to pair them with high end GPU's. The flagship (M18x in this case) system will of course sport dual cards and all the goodies we expect.

 

I hope AW will take the optical drive out of the 14 or 13. whichever they decide to make. I think this might be the best way to allow room for cooling.

the have it all 14inch notebooks always end up bulky and overheats.

I really hope they dont take the 15inch out of the lineup.

 

Off topic:
sorry but eh:
I guess you all have a very good payed job to change every six months for a newer model laptop.
Selling old(so good as new) laptop is always loosing alot of money.
Tell me how do you do that? lol
I payed 3000 euro for my m17xr2, thats a lot of money, some of my friends called me crazy,( maybe i am), but when i read this.......

 

In the US the Alienware laptops are much cheaper than in Europe... unforunately. With 3000€ you could max out the system and still have some bucks left...

 

hmm i'm interested in buying an Alienware laptop and was thinking on going for the M15x due to alienware allowing one to choose the Seagate Hybrid HDD, but instead i waited for CES in favour of any new hardware Alienware were releasing. Personally although they are supposed to be releasing the M18x i think i'll stick with ordering the M15x or the M17x (a high screen resolution is important to me) since the only advantage i see for me with ordering the 3D M17x would be the USB 3.0 (also since 3D still isn't widely used in many applications efficiently yet), what do you chaps think?

 

Hello folks, I was reading a Turkish Technology site. And came across with this new,

Translated via googletranslate;
"Sandy Bridge platform, updating the recent Dell Alienware M17x modelstrengthening the status of players in the field of high-performance computer, it does not look like will experience. Alienware-branded laptops süsyleyen many players dream of the company, is preparing a new model of 18.4-inch size.

Company details not yet disclosed by the Alienware M18x'in, 1920 x 1080 pixel resolution glossy screen-based WLED havesaid. Black andRedexpected to be available with a choice of two different colors to use your laptop computer and four-core Intel platform mobileSandy Bridge processor powerexpected to be.

Configuration with dual-GPU graphics card mobileplayers, high-performance desktop computers, the graphics performance of the Alienware M18x yaşatması expected, the GeForce GTX 460mm or can be taken with the Radeon HD 6970 Crossfire. Dell, the need to run Alinenware M18x'in 97w/saat capacity 12-cell battery For use his power to meet.

Alienware M18x'in other details, release date and price for the moment is against a clear informationdoes not exist.

Dell'den yeni nesil mobil oyun bilgisayar?: Alienware M18x

Awesome..

 

Bad translation, haha, but it gets the point accross.

Great that it has Sata III support, terrible that theres no dual gpus though =[ AND thus far no word of whether or not we can get a 1920x1200 screen =[

Would be insane to see if our M17x R2's could support the new 6970 cards (Anyone know? I'd imagine there'd be a significant increase in power to run them!!)

 

Sorry, after working commonly with screens with higher resolutions I expect laptops to make a general shift up, forget laptops tend to lag...

This makes sense then... can't wait to see what happens with the rest of the line over time.

 

I cannot wait... be curious to see what the costs are like when it finally comes out...

 

I can not wait too, so exited but my wallet is still empty...lol

 

The only thing that came to my mind right after reading the news is - how heavy would that laptop be ???? :|

 

". . . or can be taken with the Radeon HD 6970 Crossfire," i.e., dual cards.

 

Probably around 12 pounds, just like the R2 or the x7200, x8100 and other similarly sized and spec'ed laptops.

 

I would guess a good $5,000 to $6,000 for a top M18x system if I'm in the ball park..... Anyone planning to rob a bank? LMFAO

KJ

 

At some point Alienware is going to mount a monitor to the side of the aurora case and call it "portable workstation". 18 inch notebook? Seriously?

Why not get Samsonite cart and just cart around the Aurora. I think the marketing folks need to take a serious look at their lineup if this is what they are thinking.

Just my .02

StevenX

 

Why are you talking as if an 18 inch laptop is something unheard of ?? Toshiba have it with qosmio, Clevo/Sager have it with the x8100, asus have it as well, and you 're here talking about dell as if they were crazy over an inch of extra screen size?? Dude, get your facts straight!
First, for gaming that inch makes a world of difference and trust me once you see how awesome an 18" screen looks you'll understand. Second, the M18x will be thinner than the M17x-R2, and if not lighter it will be of the same weight tops, and it will have more room inside to host more options and a better cooling system.
So can you plz tell me what are you complaining about ?

 

It may not be any thinner if they're going to SLI nVidia's 100W GPUs.

 

Funny that engadget has caught the story yet. Maybe they don't believe yet.

 

I think we can call the M18x confirmed to get released in a few months as multiple sites started talking about it today.

Maybe this is informative? Dell Alienware M18x : Coming soon

Sites are saying the new machine will be expensive, how much the machine will cost is not known as of yet - just like the release date.

 

So my guess may not be so far off the $5,000 to $6,000. Anymore than that, which may be possible will be very prohibitive to most buyers/gamers, unless your cousins with Trump or some other super rich family. If you want to adopt and you are a billionaire let me know... I need a good home and a new M18x I'll take out the trash and feed the dog.... hahaha, j/k. All good though.


KJ

 

Come on now, Dell doesn't make decisions based the reaction of the 16 to 23 year olds on the NBR forums.

 

Yeah but it makes sense with Dell's decision on the R3 such as no RGB LED, no SLI or Crossfire, going back to more lightweight design and plastic, etc... The M17X is no longer AW's flagship.

 

If Alienwares mid-size mid-range laptop/s eventually become multimedia systems like you say then I would be pushed away elsewhere just because of cost! You already pay a handsome price just for the brand let alone a bunch of addons that aren't really appropriate for a gaming rig. It sounds like a choice between the m18x or m11x. One extreme or the other. I just can't afford the m18x out of the box and the m11x although great for what it is happens to be virtually ungradable and a GPU like that goes obsolete easily. I really really hope you are wrong about Dell adding another multimedia system around m15x size because the m17x r3 price is just not realistic for myself and probably 95% of consumers out there. As I said I hope the r3 goes down the pan and then they can concentrate on the niche they are famous for not competing with Asus to win over some nancy students.

 

IMO, the M17x R2 is still the flagship.

 

If they were making money on the M17X, they would've kept it. Dual GPU machines are way too niche to be your bread and butter, especially when you're spending all of that money on metal chassis.

They've probably looked at how Clevo does it. Single high-end GPU, 17" machine for the mainstream, and then larger, SLI/Crossfire machines for that very niche audience who wants that.

Every company needs a more mainstream 17" gaming machine right now. It's smart business, and the only way to survive. Those who want dual GPU monsters can be happy with the M18X.

The R3 is still going to beat two Mobility 5870s, fyi.

 

I don't see what's wrong with that if that's what Alienware based their decision off of? It's just smart to become mainstream but placate their enthusiast base with a lower yield extreme laptop such as a M18x. After all even the casual observer has to admit the M17xR3 is something of a joke.

As you said its emulating Clevo in a way, and emulating Clevo (besides their bland designs) is nothing bad. If the M18x does come about I think Alienware will be surprised at how popular it will become.

 

Agreed.

IMO, AW's main market 16-30 year old techies.

 

It's not confirmed when they're all citing the same original source for the rumor.

 

I think Dell needs to allow Alienware to retain focus on what makes Alienware great --Medium to High End systems for gaming. I always thought of the Dell Studio and XPS systems as "multimedia" with good gaming abilities.

Do you think Alienware will move forward with a 4 model notebook offering? If not which will be making it's curtain call.

StevenX

 

Well, I'm 66... (and still counting!) And many of my friends also have been AW aliens adepts for a while...
Some of us (like me) cannot afford two different computers... Of course not two laptops: one for computing needs and one for multimedia, gaming, whatever...
So, 1920x1200, SB, two GPU w. XF (we don't like SLI)... etc. is the way to go for us. 3D? certainly no way!!!
Another substantial reason to preffer Dell's machines among other well known brands mentioned here, is the warranty systems that let us enjoy some security all over the world...
Many of us have had experiences with other well known brands (which I respectfully reserve their names here). NO ONE, clearly stated: NO ONE give us NBD full warranty services ouside the US werever we go... (even deep in the Amazon forrest as I could experience).
So for us the marriage between Dell warranty system and AW was, until now, perfect...
I have been waiting a lot of time for my new desktop replacement, it seems that I (and my friends, as far as I could hear from them), will have to keep waiting for the promises lands of the 18x...

 

Glad you are here with us SOS4DELL.... and good points!

 

IF the M18x will materialize into reality, the only things that worry me about it are... will it follow the R3's trend and go plastic? I also hope that silver is offered later down the line, I think it looks best and it's sad to see that it seems to no longer be offered (also a possible hint at the M18x being plastic, since the R3 only comes in red and black and the M18x is being rumored to only come in red and black). The screen is also another curios point, but Eric G. mentioned that there is another screen option up AW's sleeves, so we can hope. I'll just play the waiting game now I guess... =/

 

As I posted earlier...if in my dream HP and Alienware/Dell combined forces, they could single handedly control a nice chunk of the industry. We know HP has great stylish designs, like the sexy Envy 17 3D.....now combine it with the power of the future M18x with dual GPUs.... That would be the dream laptop of all time. Nuff said.

KJ

 

Maybe there's a chance the M18x is going to be anodized aluminium now or something, if the M18x will hit the site of course as its not confirmed yet.. but i think there will be an M18x hitting stores in a few months though.

 

In what way? It looks like an excellent machine.

Did AW ever release PR, praising the M17X's popularity and sales?

I doubt it was a profitable venture, which is why this decision was made.

 

Even though it says, "best seller" next to the M15x, I was told their M17x was by far the better seller. In fact, AW is one of Dell's only real profitable consumer divisions and they will continue to expand it.

 

They just tagged the m15x as the best seller probably because it was actually the one that sold less. Just a hunch though.

 

I'll have an extremely hard time believing that's true, without seeing numbers. If the M17X sold so well, they wouldn't be making such drastic changes. Not that I would expect them to say anything negative to a consumer.

Either way, I would bet large sums of money, on the R3 outselling the first two iterations. Hell, if it was coming with the 6970M today, I'd probably snatch one up. That's something I've never said of an AW machine.

p.s. - AW is profitable, mainly because of their desktops.

 

I heard they desktops are meh, but personally, I would pay the premium for the looks. :x
BTW, the M15x is apparently the best seller. It's on the Dell "best selling" page. It's their 10th out of the 12 best selling laptops currently.

 

It's not some Dell rep that I got my info but a higher up at AW. Their notebooks are quite profitable. Sales of the M17x are not going to be at g73 levels but had much higher margins most likely. The R3 is their mass market answer.

 

I am SO glad to hear that!

Makes sense, be interesting to see if the M18x isn't some absurdly overpriced rig now.

 

Being a relatively large person, if it existed and I could afford it, I would buy a laptop the size of an area 51 desktop with a 3 foot screen attached and a touchpad 1 foot across and 4 gpu's and 2 processors... But that's just me...

 

How is a single 5870 mildly overclocked going to beat two in crossfire

I doubt even the (which the R3 does not ship with) is going to be able to manage that.

 

Good points. Also good to know I'm not the oldest one here (I'm 43)

 

I will be happy too if they go with dual GPU, 1200p (sorry but I hate 1080p) and stick to aluminum

 

If M18X is really coming out I would go buy it first up.

 

Let's say we take your argument (in which both sides neither have demonstrated proof) that the M17x is a low sales earner. Being "popular" doesn't serve purely as a sales number, being popular can be an advertisement machine in itself.

The M18x could be used to create controversy, intrigue, assertion to having one of the most powerful notebooks again and yet keep it at low yield productions so they don't overextend themselves and lose profit on it. Alienware has a choice to make to become the next Asus or retain themselves as some sort of luxury hybrid serving both high end casual and enthusiast consumers.

 

^ I think M17X R3 + M18X will be good for business.

An 18" desktop replacement will even draw in some of those who were considering an Alienware desktop setup. That thing will be beautiful.

Sorry, I thought it was already shipping with the 6 970M. One of those overclocked will do it.

 

Looking at 5770 vs 6850 benchmarks, it doesn't appear an underclocked barts would be able to match xfire 5870s. It would put up maybe 60-70% of the performance in most dx9/dx10 games but the dx11 performance is quite an improvement and would possibly match xfire 5870m in a few games. For a single card that's quite impressive but I think the 485M is around 10-15% faster than that or more in some cases. Besides, there's a chance the M17x-R2 can be equipped with the 6970s. Also, I think the R3 is more limited than the R2 with respect to cooling.

 

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