M18x Info Right on Dell's Website! With Proof!!!

I'm hoping they pretend like the M17x-R3 never happened and go back to the design used with the R1/R2. Adonized aluminum, RGB 1920*1200 (maybe with 3D if it's possible), touch sensitive buttons with the old design or a new better design, the option of SILVER (they NEED to bring this back), grill design goes back to the original look. If they bring back all these features, it will be a definite buy for me.

 

^ You stole my words!

 

From all the talk over the last year I highly doubt the old style is coming back.

 

Alright, I've looked everywhere on the forums (well, or so I think), so would anyone help educate me on what the infamous RGB-LED is and how it differs from normal laptop screens?

I was dead set on buying a m17x-r3, but after seeing these news I think I'll wait and order an m18x whenever it launches. I have a G73 right now, and while I'm happy with it I hate that I can't seem to upgrade its drivers without it going wonky. I'm just wanting something to pump out Duke/Skyrim at full res no problem and I think SLI/Xfire will definitely help that.

Here's waiting for an announcement!

 

It's interesting how they're using the same 240W power adapter if this machine is indeed a multi discrete GPU system...

 

Don't forget the M17X R3 is a great PC and it answers a lot of the problems in the R2 for a lot of people such as weight, SLI/Crossfire issue, etc...

The M17X R3 is one of the only 17" gamers PC out there that can offer a 6970M with 5 hours or so of web browsing battery life not to forget the M17X R3 has the same power than an M17X R2 Crossfire 5870M at stock clocks... Don't under-estimate such a PC. It's a great gamer's PC with better than ever mobility.

That being said, the M18X will be for a different crowed and I do not think anymore that the M17X R3 was a mistake though I did for a long time.

The M18X is now the top of the top... It was a smart move for them to do so and me too I cannot wait until it comes out especially if an RGB LED screen is available...

 

I will hope it will look and feel more as a new generation of a safe 'HAL'ienware... than a Dodge... (with all my due respect)...

 

Only 240W ... not good for NVIDIA cards.

 

Any news on the screen? maybe a configuration option for a wuxga RGB-LED 1920x1280? or... dreaming a little: perhaps a 2560x1600 res. in a 16:10 aspect ratio...?

 

Oh I didn't mean to discount the new features that the R3 is bringing to the table, I just don't approve of the new outer design elements.

I know the R3 is for a whole different crowd of people, but I just don't want Dell to keep everything the same when making the M18x.

 

330W if the rumor was correct


Edit: Its 240W again lol

 

... and what about the casing? Any news? ideas? Alum.anodized? Carbon fiber? Just hope no more 'plastic' adventures! (if some one at Dell is listening)

 

m18x seems like it will be Aluminum shelled. At least this guy seems to know:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...17xr3-i7-2820-gtx460m-review.html#post7084795

 

Be sure, we will take this info with a grain of salt. Let's not let this turn into a speculation thread or we risk it getting closed.

 

As Joker says: hallelujah!!!

Anyone more data regarding the screen res. and type?

 

Huh, lol Thats not true. Not graphics power or power consumption. It's closer to 70% as powerful.
The processor picks up a lot of slack in the R3.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...0-toms-hardware-review-6970m-6970m-xfire.html

However, not if, but when they offer 6970 xfire in the M18x, that will be a big jump past 5870 xfire.

 

I went over that review again and the 6970M offers about 15% less frame rate in most games versus 5870M Crossfire but that was with an engineering sample and mostly outdated drivers for those cards.

I think the gains in the 6970M are nothing to be shy of and AMD should be applauded for this. If every generation had brought that big of an increase compared to the previous generation we would have holographic 3D today.

 

...back on topic, geek.com has recently posted an article on all of this here.

 

GTX560M SLi may be....!

 

Not to be the debbie downer but what would you gain with an 18 inch over a 17 inch screen, especially now that the refresh is a truly wide screen display?

 

Not much really to do with the screen itself, save for maybe rgb.

 

Well, speculation states the M18X body will basically be about the size of the M17X therefore wouldn't you want a bigger screen in the same package laptop? I know I would.

18.4 in is 1.1 in more than a 17.3 in notebook which is quite some screen real estate.

 

I would say GTX 485m and 6970 otherwise stick with m17x.

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CLiff notes: m17x r3 Nvidia Series 465 and 485, Ati series of 6870 and 6970.

M18x: TOP SECRET..not even Michael Dell knows about it all we know is it's BADD and Aluminum

 

A-ha wasn't thinking about that. Thanks

 

You gain more space in the chassis to add cooling for 2 cards in addition to a top of the line CPU......

 

Basically a summary of this thread for those that want to save themselves time. Perhaps Dell scaled the original 320W PSU back down to 240W once they saw that the 6970M doesn't suck down 100W like previously thought. It would explain why he changed the specs. I just hope the M18x doesn't turn out to be a glorified R3.

 

I think the M18X is going to be a glorified R2 which is awesome... What worries me though it the 18.4in 1080p screen... If it's not RGB it will be a great letdown.

 

Maybe IPS? One can dream.

 

Well, if we are talking about a potentially IPS why not a step further and dream about a SUPER AMOLED+? Samsung already shows these screens in laptops and voices are saying that its amazing compared to LED and IPS... Can we expect something like this? just dreaming a little further...

 

OLED would be incredible, but would double the cost of the machine...

485M and 6970 use so close to the same power that if the M18x can run 6970 CF on 240W PSU then it can run 485M on the same PSU. The only reason the Clevo needs more power is for that monstrous desktop CPU and chipset.

I fear that RGBLED would be too much to hope for, but we'll see. In any case the screen better be something incredible, because high end machines are really marked by the quality of their screens. Dreamcolor screens are called that for a reason. The RGBLED was pulled over from the 6400, and it's been a head turner ever since it was introduced. A poor screen can doom a machine to "ho hum" land which is bad for machines this pricey.

Anodized black alum case would be nice, but I figure they know that too.

17 vs 18 is no worry to me, but probably 18 will be the ever "bigger is better" theory at work. However, if you told me I could have 18 WLED and that old 17 RGBLED as an either/or situation I'd take the RGBLED.

The only other question in my mind is whether to "first adopt" since I've been waiting for this level of machine so long, or to wait for it to cool a bit... Eh, why wait!

 

I dont think an IPS would be an option. Why?
- alienware has been with glossy displays for quite a while. There so few glossy IPS in the market for some reasons (only apple's cinema display, NEC used to have some but not anymore).
- high-end AW laptops' displays are usually on par with those of high-end precision workstation. The M6600 rumor is likely to include RGB + touch screen option, so I believe the m18x would still have RGB. Not sure about touch screen on m18x but it may not be neccessary for a gaming laptop.

 

Yep, that's probably the main reason for 18".

10-15k extra and it's yours

Preliminary tests show the max power consumption of the CF6970M is similar to that of the SLI 470M and about 80W less than the SLI 485M, so I'd assume SLI 485M while being more optimized would still draw more than the CF. Here, the difference is ~24W for a single GPU @ max load.

Yup. I really hope AW will at least have a Matte option...

 

eta @six weeks is what had been disclosed recently by a source within the company, which seems to gel with what sam burd just disclosed in a dell press release here, so perhaps the source isn't too far off?

 

Bump~ "come on guys, I know you all know the answer to this... odd that all you nice techies kinda missed this question"

 

you know the falling history of prices... look at the plasma and LED tv's... so, let's dream a little (have no cost )

I know that more than many will second that, let's hope DELL is listening...

 

Heh, Dell took the M18X off the manuals site.

 

Next they will let us think it was a typo mistake...

 

Drat! >_< ... ... ... yup, I have nothing more to say than "Drat!"

 

Old news.

Details here: Just announced - Alienware M18X (Updated) - Dell News and more

 

Notebookcheck found similar power useage by the entire system running 3dMark (old but still a useful common point) between a 740 (low) with 6970M and 2920 (higher) and 485M. It might vary, but I'm thinking they are fairly close in power consumption, certainly doubtful there is 50W more for SLI 485M vs CF 6970.

That said the 485M outperforms the 6970 for that similar power rating. So, I'm getting more performance per watt. It's not mountains better, but better.

So while probably either chip would do, I'll take the 485M.

 

It's the plexiglass that makes the AW screens glossy.. inside you will find nice matt screens.

 

Is it just me? Or is this thread really closed earlier and reopened?

 

Very little can be said when comparing two different platforms. As a matter of fact we got similar results to those of notebookcheck (using a ES 6970M). We're expecting the production units to be available by the end of March but based on ES tests, 6970M max load power consumption is about 15-25W lower than that of the 485M while @ idle and average load it is actually higher (drivers?).

Also, judging the card's performance based on a ES with no proper BIOS/vBIOS/Drivers is not the best idea. From what I've seen, the 6970M (ES) is about 7-10% slower but I have very little doubt that with proper support we'll see better results.

True and sad as cutting the glass out will void warranty.

 

That has no actual proof. This thread has Actual proof. There was a reason the moods keept deleting the old m18x speculations threads. This one hasn't been closed for a reason.

 

And so the M18x no longer sounds bogus.LOL

 

No, this is a different thread....same topic...different thread.

 

While the link on the Dell support site may be 'proof', it's such a minor thing . . . eh we really have nothing to go on at this point.

Let's wait to create a new topic until there really is something official from Dell. Thanks. These speculation threads get nowhere otherwise.