New Alienwares 2016

you were able to order it with the gsync panel?

 

dont think so

 

Probably, but I doubt any of us would be able to confirm 100%.

 

Sorry i assumed that the FHD IPS would have Gsync, will tell you if that's the case when i get it .

 

I don't think it does. I think only the 120hz panel that is "coming soon" will have it. I dont even think its IPS either

 

On my receipt :
Écran Full HD (1 920 x 1 080) antireflet de 15,6 pouces avec technologie IPS, 300 cd/m²
(with IPS technology)
so maybe no Gsync but it's an IPS panel for sure.

 

jfyi the cooling system will get painted black in the customer version...

 

Thanks for the link .

 

thanks. I watched through. Was hoping they would say a little more about the displays.

 

More information on the displays: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ns-hit-or-a-miss.795629/page-28#post-10351239

You are welcome.

 

IMO I won't cancel my order for a 120hz Qhd haha, I hate TN panels .
But now 144hz Ah-IPS screens are being produced for desktop configurations, so in the future why not ^^.

 

Dell IPS displays are known to have serious back-light bleed, so I wouldn't ever buy an IPS from Dell on a laptop. (Maybe one of their better external displays.)

TN-WVA panels are great for gaming (better than traditional TN) with their low response times, wide viewing angles, and bright color saturation.

 

Dell uses the same panels as pretty much all other manufacturers (primarily LG). Also I have yet to encounter backlight bleed on an Alienware. Except for the 4K matte panels that seems to be mounted to tightly in combination with the screen bezel.

 

Do you guys know if it's possible to get the 60Hz monitor version now and later on upgrade it to a 120Hz gsync one?

 

if you can find the proper panel on ebay/taobao/aliexpress, yes

maybe a new connector will be needed also

 

Luckily often thos econnectors are available on taobao etc as well. I could source the 4K 40pin connectors for the current line up and the screen frames itself.

 

Speaking from experience, I'd say you're better off avoiding IPS on their laptops for gaming, if they even offer them. Their TN panels are above average.

I don't believe they'll even offer a 120Hz IPS panel. The 120Hz G-SYNC displays are all TN-WVA.

 

I had 3 alienwares with IPS screen in my possession and none had lightbleed. Also the first Acer XB1 27inch 144hz TN panel I had, had lightbleed. TN is not immune for this.

 

Any thoughts on what would be the best display option for someone buying an Alienware 15 or 17 mainly to use as a Workstation (mostly software development) but also for gaming from time to time? I doubt I would actually game on the built in screen more than perhaps a few times because I do most gaming at home and feel that 17" is way to small for gaming so the screen should really be optimized for "good office work".

 

Probably the 1080p 60Hz IPS panel. You could go with the 4K screen if you're comfortable with that res. Personally I use dual 24" 1080p screens at work for programming, so I wouldn't bother getting 4K in a smaller screen, and I think the 120Hz panel is unnecessary given you'll rarely be using it for gaming.

 

Only me that find it strange that it doesn't seem possible to order the new Alienwares without a mechanical harddrive? Or am I missing somthing? Who wants and old mechanical hard disc in a laptop like this 2016?

 

Thank you. That are my thoughts exactly. Although I must admit that I am a bit tempted by the 4K option, even though I can't really give a logical reason for it. As we seem to be in the same trade, would you consider an Alienware for our line of work?

 

Personally I'm happy to have a mechanical drive. I like having a larger mechanical disk in my laptop for videos & photo backups.

I am planning to buy one, and will be using it for programming, although I'll be doing a lot more gaming on mine, so I'll be getting the 120Hz panel (plus the extra brightness should help when using it on the train in sunlight). It's probably not the best option for a portable laptop primarily for programming though; something like an XPS 15 would be better suited to that (much smaller and lighter despite the same size screen). You'd compromise on gaming performance with that though (only has a 960m).

 

I've had 11 Alienwares and all IPS displays had light bleed. Perhaps you don't have an "eye for it" or know it when you see it. Or maybe you just got lucky.

Anyway, if you like IPS, then go for IPS. I couldn't care less. I, too, like IPS, but only on certain company products.

 

Well, not to impressed with quality of ordinary Dells the last couple of years and from a performance perspective, my current MBP15 2015 beats it hands down at...well everything besides battery life maybe. And this is running Windows. But the new Alienwares looks interesting and should offer good performance if only the SSDs deliver.


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I returned a **** ton of laptops because of lightbleed on it Especially laptops with glued on bezels mounted in really thin screenlids where suspectible to it (Asus, Samsung, Gigabyte).

 

Some lightbleeds are really minor, I am willing to ignore them, but for instance on my work dell latitude e5540 the light bleed was absolutely horrible when on black screen (glued screen...)n what I did was remove the glued bezel, and cautiously put it back while reducing the pressure on the part where the light bleed was. It did reduce it but it jsut show that some manufacturers don't even bother finding ways to reduce lightbleed...stop gluing everything ffs.

 

When are we expecting 120hz displays being available in UK I wonder.

Also, for wifi adapter, both the Killer 1435/Killer 1535 options are available at the same price? Wonder why that is, would have expected the 1535 to be more?

Lastly, where is the confirmation that the 120hz panels are TN, I thought when Dell reps were asked (not the sales ones), they confirmed them as FHD 120hz IPS?

It would be disappointing if they are TN, as other manufacturers are doing 120hz IPS (e.g. Aorus) on laptops. So much so, I may end up having to skip this one .

 

Does anyone know if the PCI SSD M.2 ports are both 4x?

Will the M.2 ports thus support any M.2 SSD?

 

If you go to the configuration tools using a mobile phone, the mobile version of the website lists the 120Hz displays as 'coming soon', and specifies that they're TN WVA and support G-Sync.

I believe so, as the configuration tools allow you to choose two 1TB PCIe SSDs. They wouldn't list the option for two PCIe SSDs if one of them only supported SATA.

 

Will the 4k display with 300 nits be to dim?

 

I wouldn't think so. Depends on where you're using it (ie, full sunlight you might start to struggle a bit), but basically any display that's 300 nits should be fine.

 

Two full speed M.2 NVMe, one half speed M.2 and 2.5"

 

I would expect that they would both be 4x given that the selector allows you to put a PCIe SSD in both slots and it is not like the second slot is being discounted or something for being only half as fast. If the second slot was not full 4x speeds I would expect them to say something that the 2 PCI SSDs are not the same speed because currently they are marketing it as if they are the same speed.

I checked and the 6820HK has 16 lanes. So we can assume that 8 are used for the GPU and that would leave 8 for 4x and 4x for the SSDs. Still it would be nice to know once and for all what the actual speeds of the M.2 ports are for sure as right now they are asking a lot of money to fill them both without any info on what that money is buying us in performance.

 

Does anyone have any clue why these laptops are *so* heavy?

 

B/c rather than make them out of paper mache the case is made out of steel, magnesium and aluminum. This makes it heavier but also makes it so it will last basically forever and in harsh environments like if you live by an ocean. In addition in order to cool the computer down they used a lot of copper and aluminum in the heat sinks which are larger than before. Also the battery is now 99WH for some models and that is going to be heavy as well. Too bad 99 is the limit, perhaps they will start needing to make batteries able to be installed by the user and ship them as 2 batteries so we can break the 99 limit in the future.

In summery the reasons it is heavy are:

• Durability
  
• Cooling
• Battery Life

 

So would it be fair to expect them to be fairly quiet? I'm really torn between ordering one now or in november or a clevo tbh. I have a external 144Hz 21'' asus monitor and I'm not sure if I need the 120Hz display or not :x

 

- aluminium + carbon fiber
- heavy cooling system : copper etc.

 

Any clue on why they went from 400 nits on the 17R3 to 300 on the R4?

 

Supply issue obviously. 300 nit is lowest acceptable minimum. I dont understand why Dell go cheap here. My current precision 15.6" UHD is 400 nit and looks awesome (sharp co).

 

They do it o you feel obligated to buy the screen upgrades. Classic Dell.

 

Most interesting screen so far is 17.3" QHD 120hz. It has similar ppi as 27" UHD screen (170 vs 163). The only disadvantage is horrible TN. I would prefer some 100hz lcd, but IPS based.

 

High refresh, low response IPS is currently too expensive of a technology to produce for laptop sized needs. We'll get there, but not this year.

The fact that we're finally getting 120Hz TN panels says a lot. And there are extremely good TN panels out there, it isn't safe to immediately right them off as poor.

 

Why need screen manufacturers use more money for develop / create new screens when they have more than enough earnings as it is? http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160926PD206.html

 

UHD option is $300-500 more depending of conf. When u pocket out $3000 its easy dissolve in overal amount. That said it would be less problem to order custom 15 or 17" QHD 100hz IPS panel from LG Sharp or JD, similar to what we can see in Acer X34. Why bother when you can order cheap trash from AUO.


I wouldnt believe any TN-WVA BS till I see it in person. From what I saw so far on Youtube new AW demonstrate horrible extreme view color inversion, light bleeding, etc. typical for TN.

 

Usualy I do not read yellow papers. But even if we admit this news Sharp Display Co suffering many years in raw from poor sales. QDots, IGZO, and they blame poor sales, Karl.

 

Link? I haven't noticed any issues with colour inversion / light bleeding / etc. in any of the videos, and I'd be surprised if you saw any given there are delays on the TN panels (which suggests to me that they've only got the IPS panels being demo'd atm).

 

Doesn't look TN at ALL...

which video ?
This one @2:05 min, well it doesn't look TN to me AT all, nice contrast and viewing angles, plus you get to see the screen from top which usually is the weakest point of TN panel because of their polarization :



any link to the videos ? I'm interested, maybe they used TN panels in some case because of stock problems, but the release version is IPS

 

They did state that the fans in this version are larger than before so the dB should be lower for the same CFM.

 

@0:37
@0:57

Etc.