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    New Alienwares 2016

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by vkt62, Sep 2, 2016.

  1. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Do not forget that the new stronger battery in the new models weighs more as well. After what Mr. azor said :cool:
     
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    Shjo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, ran my 17.3" 1080P IPS at 100hz for about half an hour while messing around in Overwatch. No issues. Not really using this machine for gaming, but was curious to see if the panel would push a bit.
     
  3. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Yayy

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    ::iunlock::
     
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    quantumshadow Notebook Consultant

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    yayy what?
     
  5. Djangi

    Djangi Notebook Consultant

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    It's clear the machine will benefit from a repaste but it should be able to run at stock speeds.


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  6. Djangi

    Djangi Notebook Consultant

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    It's disabled by default.


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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    The AW17R4 arrived today. I've been prepping it for battle...

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    severous Notebook Guru

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    hi guys, we have some informations about light bleed and poor image quality on AW15 UHD panel. it's shame for high level laptop.
    So any news about the ips 1080p one? it's the same quality and light bleeding than uhd one?
    what about the AW17?
     
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    canoekoh Notebook Guru

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    so you're getting 95C temps with OC disabled? lolwut

    something seems amiss here..
     
  10. sste

    sste Notebook Geek

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    And what about the 120Hz 1080p one? Any received their machine and can comment, post panel model, maybe some photos?
     
  11. canoekoh

    canoekoh Notebook Guru

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    this is anecdotal of course but at least based on some reddit users, it seems like the incidence of light bleed on the aw15r3 fhd panel is less than on the uhd panel.

    I think I read somewhere though that the lightbleed issue with the shp1450 panels in the aw15s wasn't actually due to panel but due to a taping issue. there's a post somewhere on this forum where some guy totally rid his panel of lightbleed himself albeit in an arduous manner.
     
  12. Djangi

    Djangi Notebook Consultant

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    Unfortunately I don't have much time to test the unit today. Might have time for some additional testing tonight.


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    Pallab Notebook Consultant

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    Hey,
    can u tell model name of your 1080p 17.3 screen, from hwinfo?
     
  14. vkt62

    vkt62 Notebook Consultant

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    Didn't have peel off problems but the rubber coating on my m14x was a cleaning nightmare. Once it wore out a little, dust would accumulate increasing the damage and make it more difficult to clean. I had the same problem on one of the older Logitech keyboards. I thought AW had dumped the rubber coating on this generation. A metal top would have new nice.


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  15. Shjo

    Shjo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Monitor Name: LG Philips [Unknown Model: LGD0513]
    Monitor Name (Manuf): 173WF4 [DELL P/N: JWGJ6]
     
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  16. hal9000ht

    hal9000ht Notebook Guru

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    Mine is the 15 R3 FHD and it clearly has light bleed in the bottom right corner. As somebody mentioned is does not look like a defect in the panel, if you do the right press in the bezel is almost completely disappear.

    Not noticeable during the day, it is on dark environments with dark scenes while gaming. It looks like a build issue/trade off in the 15 R3 to me, the bezel is thin. Anyway hardly to accept that in a high end gaming laptop.

    The cooling system is amazing though, temperatures always <70C in game with Battlefield 1 for the 1070.
     
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    should be. but some of them just cannot run at stock speeds.
     
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    cj_miranda23 Notebook Evangelist

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    For those interested!
     
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    Pallab Notebook Consultant

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    Can u post some pictures of the lightbleed?
     
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    canoekoh Notebook Guru

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    what are the CPU temps?
     
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    If they'd let me configure the 6820HK with the 1440p screen, I might've caved and bought one of these by now.
     
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    I don't think I'm going to swap it for another IPS as it could be even worse. Unless they start selling other panel types in the UK in the next two weeks.
     

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    Gear332 Notebook Evangelist

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    Didn't you post a screenshot of the temps being uneven on the different cores, though? I seem to remember the highest being 95 or 96 and the lowest being 71. That'd be indicative of probably a bad paste job. Even on stock clocks a bad paste job can give you high temps. It shouldn't arrive to a customer like that though.
     
  25. Pallab

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    I also see some bleeding below the camera,towards the right, in the top side
     
  26. hal9000ht

    hal9000ht Notebook Guru

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    There is yes. But far less in practice. That one is acceptable to me, the bottom right is in the limit.
     
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  27. Pallab

    Pallab Notebook Consultant

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    The SHP1450 is an excellent panel with 86% aRGB. The bleeding is beacuse of the panel not being fitted properly onto the frame. (Happens with most notebooks these days, here its quite high).
     
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  28. EinNarr

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    How long does it take to ship to EU? Mine was shipped last Sunday, 16/10. It still says“courier is taking it to UPS facility in China”. Is it possible that the courier checked it for me and found serious light bleed, so he decided to refund for me?
     
  29. Pallab

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    By "limit" you mean acceptable or unacceptable?
     
  30. Djangi

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    Nop, didn't post a single screenshot yet. I did note that the first core runs a dew degrees hotter so you're probably right about about the pasting.

    While A better paste job will probably get the temps a few degrees lower I don't expect magical results. I think Alienware did a really good job with the cooling solution for the pascal chip but at the expense of cpu cooling. If I remember correctly this was the other way around with the R1.

    I am considering returning the laptop but want to do a little bit more testing before I make my decision. Since I'm running pretty late that will probably be tomorrow evening.


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  31. Pallab

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    Yea, give us some high temp benchmarking, but maintain the stock clock.
     
  32. Djangi

    Djangi Notebook Consultant

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    My 15 was shipped on the 17th and arrived on the 21st.
    Note: I did not get any shipping updates at all. The status changed from “courier is taking it to UPS facility in China” to "courier is on route" on the day of delivery.


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  33. hal9000ht

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    Not sure yet, need to test more.

    Apparently it happens across different panels so I am not optimistic about a swapping. Which is a shame as it shades what it could have been an impressive laptop.
     
  34. Kevin

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    What does pasting have to do with bleed?

    More possible to believe aliens stole it, than it is that a courier opened the package and inspected the quality of panel for you.
     
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  35. Kevin

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    oops double post
     
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  36. canoekoh

    canoekoh Notebook Guru

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    damn dat sucks brah

    will post mine when it arrives on monday
     
  37. canoekoh

    canoekoh Notebook Guru

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    really? can you provide a source b/c i've always heard the 77% aRGB figure being thrown around. first time i've heard 86%
     
  38. Pallab

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    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Precision-7510-4K-IGZO-Mobile-Workstation-Review.167586.0.html

    X-Rite i1Pro Basic 2
    Maximum: 290.3 cd/m² Average: 271.4 cd/m²
    Brightness Distribution: 83 %
    Center on Battery: 279.2 cd/m²
    Contrast: 1050:1 (Black: 0.266 cd/m²)
    ΔE Color 4.14 | - Ø
    ΔE Greyscale 3.26 | - Ø
    99.72% sRGB (Argyll) 85.68% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll)
    Gamma: 2.19
     
  39. Pallab

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    Lol, I meant pasting the panel onto the frame. A design bug.
     
  40. canoekoh

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    the sharp LQ156D1 can have different models; for example, the 4k on the xps 15 is also LQ156D1 but it's the shp1431 model with 61% argb. i'm not too familiar with the naming schemes but it does seem sharp releases different models under the same LQ156D1 family.

    oh well, even if it's not super high aRGB, i can live with it as long as it doesn't have terrible lightbleed and yellow tint, which I gather I should be able to fix by calibration anyway
     
  41. Pallab

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    Yes, the LQ156D1 has 6 different panels, only three of them have anti glare displays:
    1. LQ156D1JW02 - brightness 350 cd/m2 100% adobe
    2. LQ156D1JW04 - brightness 330 cd/m2 72% NTSC
    3. LQ156D1JW31 - brightness 400 cd/m2 100% adobe

    The precision 7510 uses display 2 (as it does not have 100% aRGB) and has 86% aRGB.
    Now AWR3 has brightness 300 cd/m2 so it cant have display 3.
    So it has either display 1 or 2, in any case it has atleast 86% aRGB. (and dell aint fool enough to give it a 100% adobe. So it has display 2 most probably)

    N.B. 72% NTSC on paper translates to 77% aRGB albeit from notebookcheck's review it seems thats it has a better coverage in reality.
     
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  42. EinNarr

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    On the day of delivery? They wont inform you at all Will they? So Maybe I can expect them on Monday?
     
  43. Pallab

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    Wahts your config EinNarr?
     
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    Ok, I got to do a little bit of additional testing tonight. To be clear, I have overclocking disabled.

    Yesterday the the system shut down when the temps surpassed 95 degrees. I got to this point by playing Deus Ex on ultra settings. Deus Ex is pretty bad port and is pretty cpu heavy as a result of this.
    Playing The Witcher 3 on Ultra settings on 4k(1080p didn't stress the cpu enough) also led to a forced system shutdown.

    The strange thing is that the behavior was different with prime95. Instead of shutting down, the cpu throttled like crazy, it seems to throttle at about 93 degrees.

    Stranger is that the results where better today in similar tests. The cpu never surpassed 93 degrees so no forced shutdowns today. The room temperature is 2 degrees lower (18 degrees) than it was yesterday but such a minor variation should't have such a heavy impact. If it does, it will be fire and brimstone during summertime.

    Maybe the paste hasn't hardened yet.
    I can conclude that repasting is inevitable since the temps differ per core:

    avg core temps:
    - core 0 - 91 °C
    - core 1 - 85 °C
    - core 2 - 84 °C
    - core 3 - 79 °C

    I must admit that I'm a bit hesitant to dissemble my brand new laptop. I've build/disassembled many desktop systems but laptops not so much.

    Did anyone disassemble the new 15 or 17 yet. If so, what are your findings?

    I there has already been a lot of discussion about this but I'm wondering what paste I should use.
    I always use Arctic Silver in my desktop builds but since I don't do heavy overclocking anymore I'm a little outdated. Any suggestions besides Liquid Metal?
     
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    They didn't in my case. I obsessively refreshed the tracking app during the whole week until the status finally changed to On Route. Maybe anyone else has a better experience?
     
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    This is reassuring:
     
  47. Pallab

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    Mah man, u did it !
     
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    [​IMG]

    :D
     
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    If it's not clear, this is not my 15. I just found the video while I was searching for reviews.

    I do expect that my 15 will suffer a similar fate if I don't get the temps down.


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  50. Papusan

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    Dell Support should make themselves ready for loads of customers seeking re-paste if this ↑↑↑ is the average of all machines.
    ICD, Gelid Extreme or Grizzly Kryonaut. Everything else is a waste of time and money. But Liquid Ultra is no. 1 :cool:
    None of these new AW models I have seen, have normal max temp. Tragic temperatures. What if the inside temp going up to 30 degrees Celsius, as some have?
     
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