New M17x R4, M14X R2 and M18X R2 are coming - Speculation thread.

The current m18xr2 US config page only offers a 240watt power supply not 330watt lol also I noticed there isn't any killerN networks cards hmmm


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I read somewhere that the new killer wireless was just announced yesterday, and won't be shipping out til May. Maybe that's why it's listed on all alienware models' specification page but you cant configure one with that card yet

 

so m14x's 14 inch has a 1600x900 and the new MSI GT60 has a 1920x1080 15.6 screen. They are both going to be sporting very similar insides too. Hmmmm....

 

Nah GT60 will have the most powerful card NVidia offers. It will just be a matter of time.

 

Matte screen, aluminium chassis, raid, powerful gpu...The GT60 has indeed some strong arguments.

 

yes but alot of difference between the 2 like msi is like 1.5 inch bigger (correct if im wrong) and worst lookin too bulky for my taste and for a guy like me thats very shallow (lol) i like pretty things

 

Aluminum Chassis. "-)

I am really hoping tuesday brings a new design/body considering all the new laptops from other manufacturers and them taking down the M11x.

 

i highly doubt there will be a new design/body its more probable next year with haswell since that gonna be the tic of the processors

 

Any design or extra features differences m18xR1 vs m18xR2 or is the shell and all the non-cpu/gpu options exactly the same? The screen seems to be the same.

Edit:
One HDMI port is now 1.4.
Creative Sound Blaster Recon3Di replaced the old card.
I can't see anything else.

 

Bluetooth 4.0 whatever that means

 

The new Killer card is only 2 antenna so it replaces the 1102. It adds Bluetooth 4.0 but seeing as the M17x R3 already has Bluetooth via separate module...there doesn't seem much point over the current Killer Wifi cards.

Also what is this I hear about the death of WiHD?! This is unacceptable! Sure the mSATA stuff is good but I mean for people using SSDs, mSATA caching seems useless. I want WiHD back!

 

I am actually quite into this msata SSD thing. For me storage is big thing, my laptop bag has 3x 1.5TB HDD`s right now. I just want to bring these inside m18x and then rung 128Gbish msata for OS.

EDIT: I use m15x mainly for photoshop on the road (I am a photographer).

 

These Msata drives is so tempting specially with the newly just released M4 Msata



I would definitely get one if we were able to get full speed, i heard the MSata in the alienware is capped at 200MB :/ not sure if that is true or not

This thing is so tiny !


Imagine how many mSATA drives you can install in the optical drive space alone, hopefully one day removal of optical drive would be a standard, such a waste of space i use optical media like once a year lol, USB optical drive when needed only and they are dirt cheap,

 

how are the prices on these mSATA drives vs a 2.5 SSD?

 

Can't tell really, been a while since good mSATA drives was released, only decent ones available are quite old now so they are still priced like the older SSD pricing, new models suppose to reduce the price just like what happened with the 2.5 SSD market.

The ones that is around now charge about 1.5$ for 1GB~ but they are quite mid range at best not high end SSD speed unlike the M4, M4 1.8 was announced a week ago no official pricing yet but if i were to guess?

64GB for 119$
128GB for 199$

 

MSI Global ? News

Msi now with another gaming/ultra notebook? Alienware what will you bring us this tuesday? You are taking the m11x away and simply replacing some parts on your chassis? that wont do! You are gonna need to blow the buyers away! There is alot of competition on the way.

 

I doubt many notebook companies plan their chassis modifications around CPU releases.

Wow that is an ugly machine.

 

You are forgetting that this is as they say the year of the "ultra notebooks" Every manufacturer so far has brought a new chassis.

 

@Poison you know that ultra books are not ultra in performance but ultra in usability. Sure companies are releasing new chassis this year but that doesn't mean that Dell must. If other computer companies jump into a lake would you expect Dell to do the same?

Plus do you actually know what is in the new 2012 Alienware refresh? I mean there's a new chipset/mobo, new GPUs and new sound system. Plus support for mSATA as well. Be grateful.

 

correction. ultra books were not ultra in performance. Things are changing "-)

 

We'll see...

 

hey guys what about an Alienware tablet ?

 

So since 650m is officially faster than 560m and 660m is not much faster than 650m (slight overclock) and 675m is just a 580m rebrand it seems like m14x is the best option right now

Thinking of getting m14x instead of m17x -.- unless Nvidia announce 680M asap lol

 

you dont like AMD/ATI?

 

Only reason i went with AMD is the price
Always preferred Nvidia lol but yeah unless 680m is good not interested in weak cards from nvidia

 

So this is my m14x build what do you all think

i7 2868QM
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8G) (from newegg)
Crucial M4 CT512M4SSD1CCA 2.5" 512GB SATA III (newegg)
Nvidia 650m 2gb
High Def+ LCD
Intel advanced n
DVD burner (might buy Blu-ray burner later)
wireless HD

 

675M/580M is still a decent card, especially in SLI. 680M will prolly come late, late June it'd say.

You don't need that much RAM. 8GB should be fine. Definitely take the 900p screen as you planned. Get a Killer Wifi card instead of Intel.

 

Ok thank you I have two questions though.
The Killer card is not currently an option is it worth the wait?
Should I go for a SATA + mSATA raid 0 or just go with the m4?

Thank you for your help

 

Not it's not, not in 2012 and looking for a new laptop

Even nvidia themselves admit it (Straight from their official page)



650m is cooler and easily overclocked
650m already proved to perform between GTX 560m and 570m (It's faster than 560m at clock speeds and about identical to 660m expect very minimal downclocking)

The difference between 650m and 675m is laughable specially when you compare the prices, and size of laptops
Overclocking 650m will put you near 675m that alone makes 675m a very pathetic card (it's not even a kepler or 28nm....)
How can 650m (which can be put and will in 11inch laptop) and 675M which is used for m18x can be so similar in power

Answer : Wait for 680m or get 675m and cry later if you want nvidia card

 

The 2860QM is definitely not worth the money IMO. Stick with the 2760QM.

 

Not to start a flame ware here and i know i am going to get beat up for this one but why would anyone want a small gaming laptop 11x,14x,even a 15 seems like it would be to small for gaming on IMO. Just seems like if you are going to spend the money on A high end rig then you should get the biggest and the best you can aford.

 

Many people need good portability and can only buy 1 laptop obliviously bigger is better for gaming so it's a little sacrifice hehe

 

I carry mine every time i leave the house, it does get a bit heavy at times but well worth it when i can sit down and get some game time in

 

WorldCAD Access
Monday we'll get some exciting news i am sure.

 

you forget that these laptops have an HDMI hookup "-)

 

I thought they all had the HDMI hookup.

 

Folks, no more bickering. Please stay on topic and be polite or infraction points will follow. There is no need to be insulting toward people that have a differing opinion, regardless of what that opinion is based on. (The posts I am referring to have been deleted.)

Have a pleasant weekend.

 

I wonder if the Ivy Bridge GPU supports 120hz and, if so, would it be implemented in the M17x R4 to allow 120hz + graphics switching. If that's available, I would love to get the 120hz screen + whatever high end Nvidia GPU is available at the end of summer. If not, I would have to settle for 60hz and AMD's high end GPU. Not as exciting, but good enough and much cheaper.

 

What kind of discount can I expect to get considering its just been refreshed? I get an EPP discount through work but the discount was pathetic; 2%.

Anyone order yet/what kind of deal did you get?

 

Would be nice for the 120hz screen to play nice with AMD cards. Would make future upgrades much easier.

 

I got 18% off mine
The rep let me keep the discount i had on my previous m14xr1 that i cancelled once i stumbled across the r2 making an appearance!

8% student discount
10% coupon voucher i used on my m14xr1
I also saved on the 3 year warranty as they currently have 33% off it until april 25th xD

Overall saving - £395 (More if i count the £130 saved on the warranty), booyah!

Hope this helps

 

I'd like to know where you got this voucher or if you could share the code. Also where is the 33% off warranty until April 25th? There is nothing on the dell website about this.

My wife has a teacher discount which is also 2% and that is not much savings. Please show us where. If anyone else knows of some great coupons or codes to use my son will be very grateful. Thank you

Regards,
Ruff

 

With Dell the majority of discounts can be got through 'chatting up' the sales rep, always manged to get atleast 10% off through talking to them not including student discounts etc. ofcourse with this being new tech and everyone wanting it, dont know how well that'll work this time.

 

I used a 10% coupon when ordering my m14x about 2 weeks ago, i cancelled it due to finding the r2 got released a week later! I said to the rep on the phone i want to keep the discount i already had, he sorted it and voilà xD

I got the 10% of coupon from this website, i think it only works for the r1 atm but you can try it!

Alienware M14x Deals, E-Value Codes and Special Offers

Student discount you just need an nus card, they didnt even ask me to prove i had one tho so...

About the 33% off, its on the 3 Years Next Day In-Home Service with Premium Phone Support! Deal expires on the 2nd of may now! This is from the uk dell site when configuring your alienware

Good luck xD

I highly recomend chatting to a rep over the phone to get the best deal

Good luck!

 

I'm in Canada, so don't think the coupon/code you posted will work for me but thanks for the response.

I almost pulled the trigger on an M17x r3 a while back but whenever I called I got an agent in India (from what I've read they have less leeway in giving discounted prices) and was quoted pretty awful prices.

 

675m is by around 30% faster than 650M. That's a lot for a mobile GPU. Count the horizontal bars if you didn't do that already. These are data for default clocks, so arguing that overclocking 650m will make it equal to 675m (which can in turn be overclocked as well, and quite decently going after what's been achieved on 580m), your point doesn't make much sense. One doesn't run highly overclocked and/or overvolted mobile cards for everyday use. You neither know how 650m overclocks nor own a 580m knowing what is that thing capable of, plus apparently you haven't got much experience with mobile overclocking.

Secondly, what do you think will be the performance difference between 580m/675m and 680m? Another 20% at most. Don't expected wonders. This isn't about technology but about marketing.

We truly did expect 580 to be ultra powerful last summer and then we got a card which is decent, yet it's still a mobile GPU and couldn't match desktop 580 although I remember a lot of users expecting that. 580m ended up being +-560 Ti. Don't expect 680M to match desktop GTX 680 performance either.

In sum, getting a pair of 675M (580M) now is still not such a bad idea, especially is one does not want to spend fortune on 680M expensive only because they will be new. The 580m/675m cards are proven to be powerful, especially with P1=P0 matched bioses, and still easily outmatch other so far released 600 series cards. Plus, once can expect 680M to be very expensive (expect good $1000-1200 for a pair).

Finally, 675m is not a mid range card like e.g. 560M was in comparison to 580M last summer. 675M is upper level card, giving place only to future 680M. Equipped in a pair of those one can expect to rock maxed out modern games for another year at least. There is a reason why Nvidia decided to re-badge 580M and include it in the 600 series line.

Edit: Talking last summer, note that there was really no competition to 580M. One could wait for 580M or get much less powerful 560M. There was nothing in betwen 580M and 560M. 485M was not available and 570M came as late as 580M did (still, being unavailable for Alienware). Now the situation is different. 675M neatly connects the mid rage with upper part of upper range 680M will be.

 

Didn't read, skipped through it and all i saw was plenty of assumption and false statements, i never said 650m = 675m, i said overclocked 650m is near/close to 675m not that it's 675m in power, you treat 650m as 650m when i have explained plenty of times it's freaking 660m specs wise, nvidia only decided to do fake downclock, restore it to stock speeds then overclock it a bit.

Look at the chart at 660m vs 675m, now overclock 660m, with tiny overclock or even no overclock heck it's already very close to 675m.

 

Guys, stop making comments that are insulting. Feel free to state opinions and post supporting info, but no need for comments like those I deleted. If it continues there will be infractions and potentially having your account banned. Discussion can and should be lively and friendly without insults.

 

All I'll say is that Nvidia's own charts show the 675M is 29%, 53%, 54%, 62%, 49%, and 42% faster than the 660M in the particular games they used. It's hard to believe the 660M, much less a 650M, will overclock that much.

 

Even if they will safely overclock that much from a hardware perspective, the driver may not be stable enough to sustain it. The bottom line is you get what you buy. If a mid-range spec'd GPU is what someone buys, it will never perform as well as the high-end GPU is capable of performing in a similarly overclocked state. Same is true for a CPU. You can certainly make it run better and faster, but it will never be the equivalent.