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    *OFFICIAL* "All Powerful" M15x Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by sleey0, Sep 22, 2009.

  1. Morgotth

    Morgotth Notebook Evangelist

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    Maybe they will add it later, but it just seems kinda out of character for this laptop to not have the top of the line graphics card from Nvidia and/or ATI in it.
     
  2. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    exactly, not so "All Powerful" afterall with that GPU haha. Clevo won this fight
     
  3. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's a 15''! Geez, you guys wanna burn a hole through your new M15x the day that you get it?? :eek: Just foolish... If you want more power go for the M17x!
     
  4. Morgotth

    Morgotth Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, what would you say is more durable, Alienwares aluminum case or Clevos case? Also in the looks department Alienware wins, but thats not a buying factor for people looking for a powerful laptop.
     
  5. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    The M15x has cooling well beyond most laptops, it can easily handle those GPU's and then some
     
  6. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    A single 4870 is completely reasonable.

    I am disappointed they didn't offer it but oh well ;)
     
  7. lemonspeaker

    lemonspeaker Notebook Evangelist

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    Some things you may not notice about the M15x:

    1) They shrunk the left CONTROL and ALT key
    2) There are not visible screw on the hinge of the M15x.
    Unlike the M17x, all the screw are hidden except the nameplate.
     
  8. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    How can you prove it? Just looking at the cooling system will not tell you that it can handle it. You don't think AW would have tried it already?? It's just asking for trouble.
     
  9. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Maybe if they launched with the 280 and the 4870 it would have stole to much of the M17x's thunder ? i7, LED , 4870 ? sounds like an awesome machine :).
     
  10. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    ^

    Yeah, so someone order a cf M17x and sell me a 4870, please.





    PLEASE??
     
  11. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Look at the cooling for the GTX 280m in the M17x, it is exactly comparable to the cooling of the M15x GPU. I am 110% sure that the systems can handle the thermals.

    And Alienware not giving those options to "protect" the M17x is kind of stupid, as that is still a multi GPU system vs. a single GPU system
     
  12. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    How much do 280s go for? If the M15x has enough space to handle it i may consider buying one if i get the M15x
     
  13. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    they are around $500 to $600 but hard to come by (would have to be the MXM 3.0b version)

    We all complain, but the difference in performance will not be much between a GTX 260m and GTX 280m lol

    edit: dam, I have posted over 100 times today. All this M15x excitement has got me going!
     
  14. Snowm0bile

    Snowm0bile Starcraftologist

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    Im sure they will upgrade to 280/4870 after a few months
     
  15. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    not if the MXM slot is limited to 65 watts from the 75 it SHOULD be
     
  16. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Yep you can pretty much OC the 260m to 280m clocks and nearly match it's performance. The lack of those 12 or so shaders will drop the performance by a few percentage but nothing to really write home about. Now SLI 280 on the other hand demolishes anything.
     
  17. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    You overlooked an also important factor, the M17x is huge, it's a 17 incher. The M15x is a 15 incher. And there is only one fan to cool off the GPU. The other one is a CPU fan.
     
  18. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    well yes, that is why SLI 280m is in my system now haha (I would hate myself if i got only SLI 260m ;) )
     
  19. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    OK....and!?

    The M17x only has one fan on each GPU as well....so the per GPU cooling is the same between the 2 models
     
  20. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    I'm never going to be able to choose :( So many opinons and here and so many things to consider. I think I'll make a topic concerning my interests and see which one people think suits my activites
     
  21. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    It should be able to upgrade to any mobile 5000 series card when they release. 5850 would be a reasonable guess with it's rumored ~40w TDP.
     
  22. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    it really boils down to this

    You either do more gaming or more CPU stuff

    For gaming, get the M17x

    For CPU tasks, get the M15x

    They are pretty much the same size and both are heavy so nothing else should effect your decision much (maybe the screen ratio difference)
     
  23. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    ^

    Is it really that black and white?
     
  24. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    No, the M15x will def be more portable.

    Watch the video again a couple of times - it is def slimmer ;)
     
  25. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    So you are implying that the M17x and the M15x are really the same computer?

    And I disagree. The M15x is not a 17 incher. And the M17x is not a 15 incher. They are different sizes.

    However, I do agree with you that for more hard core gamers should go for the M17x. And the rest go for the M15x, for it's portability and battery life.
     
  26. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    to me it is

    I am not picky about things like screens
     
  27. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    Look, the fan and heatsink assembly look IDENTICAL to the M17x by looking at the service manual.

    Case closed on that ;)
     
  28. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    the M15x has WORSE battery life than the M17x for the record

    And I am not trying to say the M15x is a 17", it is just just much larger than you would think of when you think 15" laptop

    I agree it will be more portable for most people. But for me, portability only means battery life, I am not too weak to handle carrying around an M17x (regardless of what laptop I have, it is going into a backpack)
     
  29. lilyang

    lilyang Notebook Evangelist

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    It says 2 hours of battery life but does he use stealth mode and is he using the 9 cell? I would highly doubt the max battery life is 2 hours either of those, that would be a possible deal breaker for me
     
  30. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    that is the battery life...it is an i7 cpu haha

    And no integrated to fall back on, so an inefficient discrete gpu for very low power use

    The M17x, as silly as it sounds, gets a better battery life
     
  31. Bubbamel

    Bubbamel Notebook Evangelist

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    Lets not forget though that driverheaven was using the i7 920 vs the 820, and there was no mention of stealth being on. Maybe that could squeeze out another 30 mins? Thoughts? :)
     
  32. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    still not enough
     
  33. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    I have heard that the i7's are not bad on power.

    Take what you read on driverhell with a grain of salt ;)
     
  34. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    OK, One GPU (on the M15x) vs. the 2 GPU's (which would suck the life out of the battery in an M17x.) Not to mention the i7 CPU uses less power as well + stealth mode.

    It's a 15.6" laptop that's why it's bigger than a regular 15" laptop.
     
  35. Bubbamel

    Bubbamel Notebook Evangelist

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    oh great.. now I am having second thoughts. *sigh...* /walks away to sad charlie brown theme./
     
  36. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    The M17x with SLI on still gets about 1.5 hours

    The M15x with the discrete powered up (not stealth mode) gets about 1.5 hours as well....so 1 vs. 2 gpus
     
  37. lilyang

    lilyang Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah kinda what I said, he used balanced settings, which I assume means he could have put more power save on and the stealth

    I understand that it is an i7 machine but dell and AW know that making the m15x have less battery than the m17x would defeat the purpose of making it more portable

    I am going to bank on saying he did not use stealth seeing as he didnt mention anything but balanced settings and that it was a 6 cell vs the 9 cell, I also assume the 240 would bring better life as well (not sure if anyone besides me is considering that option though haha)
     
  38. sleey0

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    The whole 4870 deal threw a big wrench in my thinking :D
     
  39. Bubbamel

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    The reviewer did mention a 85whr battery which I believe is the 9 cell. :)
     
  40. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    you know dual 4870s is calling for you Sleey0

    You can sell one of them to a M15x owner for testing ;)
     
  41. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    I really want a smaller-ish system, though.

    I want someone to sell me a 4870 :D
     
  42. lilyang

    lilyang Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah I noticed that earlier in the review, I just wish he was more specific :(
     
  43. kobe

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    Just wondering scook, since I don't own an M17x, does it have stealth mode too? Can't you switch to integrated graphics. If so, then, it would outlast the M15x in battery life. It's a shame that they didn't do what they did with the m15x (Binary GFX) to the M15x. And no smart bay battery either...That adds about an extra 4 hours on integrated. I get a total of 7 hours battery on my m15x!
     
  44. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Well the Area 51 m15x was made by Quanta, who probably owns the rights to smartbay, not dell/AW

    The "all powerful" models are made by flextronics, different ODM

    And the reason there is no binary gfx option is Intel. They have not made an IGP for i7 chipsets yet and have not given Nvidia the rights to make chipsets for the nehalem architecture at all (or any Intel CPU with an integrated memory controller). It is indeed a shame that a 17" will out last a 15" in battery, not that I mind ;)
     
  45. dirtyroastbeef

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    Quick question....I'm interested in the new M15x but unsure which screen to order. I wont be using it for blu-ray watching. I plan on playing games like WIC, Dragon Age:Origins and Starcraft 2.
     
  46. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    which ever one you can afford then ;)

    for me, more resolution is always a must
     
  47. ultimateboss

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    i plan on gettin it as soon as i pay off my card.... ive been waiting and watching and reading for the past couple monthes...now is the time mauhahahahah!!
     
  48. kobe

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    Indeed it's a shame. But, you get the best of both worlds with the M17x. More power and portability (battery life that is). However, the smaller size of the M15x still stands out to many.

    Go for the lower resolution, since it would prolong the life of your GPU for gaming. It's all really preference. Are you doing any designing?? The higher res would help greater with that.
     
  49. sleey0

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    So, am I the only one who has placed an order yet?

    lol
     
  50. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    from the looks of it yeah .. Im sure alot of people want to get first hand word from a member what they think before they pull the trigger themself.
     
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