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    *OFFICIAL* "All Powerful" M17x-R2 Edition Owners Lounge!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by 5150Joker, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. Speedy Gonzalez

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  2. Mandrake

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    According to Intel 1066/1333 with the non-arrandale procs. 800/1066 with the arrandale procs. Doesn't mean you cannot test it but we also need to know if the bios supports XMP.
     
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    i will call dell to find out thanks :)
     
  4. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Lol good luck getting a real answer ... Few people know about xmp let alone Dell tech
     
  5. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yeah your better off asking your wife if it supports 1600mhz RAM as she would know about as much as the people at Dell :D...
     
  6. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    I need to see some performance for sure here. I am still being confused by clock speed. Such a noob I am... Right now I would lean towards the 720QM. Now here is what I have told a couple of guys here: if I have a processor 2 duo, that is clocked at 2.8Ghz, the 720QM on 2 cores would hit a max of 2.66Ghz, while the 620M would hit a 3.06Ghz on 2 cores.

    At first sight it just seems the 620M would be more useful, unless you can find tons of applications that ask you for a quad. ???

    Another couple of questions, (these can't be answered yet, I understand) 1066 memory vs. 1333 memory. Would it make enough of a difference in performance now? Not just benchmarking. And also, any foreseeable way to use the IGP on the 620M?

    This is tough. Like I said, I would go with the 720QM now, but it is still a hard choice since I can't get my head around the questions. It's not like when I got the T9600 where I really felt 2.0Ghz was too low and wasn't using so many quad hungry applications. Also the fact that I could throw it to a crazy high overclock.

    If you get a 720QM or a 620M, would they be interchangeable if you change your mind?
     
  7. Speedy Gonzalez

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    i don't have one :D
     
  8. Speedy Gonzalez

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    if you don't get the 720 maybe later you will be disappointed :)
     
  9. Docsteel

    Docsteel Vast Alien Conspiracy

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    Okay, for some of us Dellienware n00bs, can someone fact check the question of the GDDR memory for the ATI Radeon Mobility 4870's again...

    AMD/ATi's site indicates in their spec sheets that the 512 mb version is GDDR3, while the 1GB is GDDR5... :confused:

    The m17x is using the 1GB model... but it's really just GDDR3 right? Suspected reason being that it would outperform the 5870, and the confusion comes from this incorrect listing on ATi's site right?
     
  10. Speedy Gonzalez

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    the 4870's on the m17x are 1gb ddr3. not ddr5
     
  11. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    You will need to wait until one of the guys here gets their machine. From past experience, even if your invoice says so, it could be wrong. So just wait for someone to have the card in their hands to confirm. Right now, it is believed to be DDR3.

    Now back to my question :D

     
  12. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Personally i think if they had moved to DDR5 it would have been advertised just as a selling point... These cards are honestly just place holders till the new ones arrive but Dell wanted to get the machine out there and these are still amazing cards either way....
     
  13. Speedy Gonzalez

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    no body know that yet they may use different heatsink for the dual cores :)
     
  14. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    This is true. And if you wanted to stick in a 920XM and you have a 620M, you might be unable to fit it. Big plus for the 720M there I didn't catch.

    People need to get their hands on this machines quick.
     
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    Heatsink will be the same regardless of CPU....
     
  16. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    Sigh... You are the only one I know ordered a 620M. Be sure to post your thoughts on it before sending it back. When is your ETA?
     
  17. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    I don't think the CPU's would be any differant physically since they all use the same motherboard.
     
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    Generally, how accurate are the build dates and ship date estimates Dell gives for their systems ?
     
  19. Speedy Gonzalez

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    we all hope that but the dual cores can be little bit lower and the have to use different heatsink
     
  20. Speedy Gonzalez

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    they always delivers 3 to 5 days before the ETA. well in most cases :)
     
  21. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  22. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    The m17x r1 and m17 didn't ... It will have the same heatsink
     
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    HAHAH, very funny you 2....

    Anyway, I'll def post some numbers on the 620, regardless if I keep it or not...
     
  24. kienah

    kienah Notebook Enthusiast

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    is the m17s MLK the new spec Alienware?
    I just ordered a i7 620 and dual ATI 4870
    4gb 1333 ram

    Eta 020310
    Will the 620 be sufficient for the latest Games?
     
  25. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Yes it will be fine
     
  26. Mandrake

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    Look HERE.....
     
  27. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    I will be waiting on your thoughts on the 620M. That makes 2 known people here that picked the 620M.

    Depending on what games you play, I would say it suffices.
     
  28. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    I'll be able to compare the 720 (G73) and the 920 (M17x).
     
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    i have the stock 720qm from the m15x and the 920xm that's why i order the m17x with the 820qm to try all the different cpu's on the m17x :)
     
  30. WaR

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    What are your thoughts on that 720QM? If the 920XM is comparable in performance alone to a QX9300 (or so I've read), what would you compare a 720QM to?
     
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    Jakkarus Notebook Consultant

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    I almost got the 620M but since I'll be using my R2 for work a lot and I need to run VMs I went with the 720QM. I still feel that 2 cores with higher clock speeds are best for pure gaming, but the quad cores will help make the system last longer as games will eventually use 3 or 4 cores. So ultimately what you plan to do with your system should dictate what hardware you put into it.
     
  32. Speedy Gonzalez

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    to a q9000 :)
     
  33. The_Moo™

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    More then one of those... Not much more though maybe a q9100 due to the cache
     
  34. Mandrake

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    The C2D to i7 comparisons are starting to get on my nerves....I'll be quite.
     
  35. The_Moo™

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    I agree mandrake, you can't compare those 2 arch. Specially when you factor in hyperthreading.

    It's all moot my 720 rant gta like no other...

    So not stop asking - no one has it yet- If you want benches then google :)
     
  36. WaR

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    Alright. I'll hang the gloves with the comparisons.

    Wednesday is gonna be a big day. Apple Tablet and iPhone to (maybe) Verizon. Call from Dell. Complex Analysis class (that last one is not good news).

    Busy, busy day it will be.
     
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    Yes, the only option was 1066MHz RAM....
     
  39. nickbarbs

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    I wonder if they'll allow M17x-R1 users to upgrade to the RGB LED screen. Either way, I'm sure we'll be able to find it on Ebay in a few months once the R2 is mainstream.
     
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    Fully agree with you Mandrake, wish people would read throughly the posts on this forum.
     
  41. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Or do a rather simple search, you know, the thing on the top right of every page :rolleyes:
     
  42. Mandrake

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    It's not so much the frequency it's more about the relevance of it as Moo stated.
     
  43. ibraveheart

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    Will the m17x get dual ATi HD 5870 ?
     
  44. desu

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    no nope nada
    However The M17x-r2 will eventually get em
     
  45. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Sadly.....this is still speculation. We do not know for sure at this point
     
  46. Docsteel

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    I think they are going to call that... the m17x-R3 :p
     
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    i'm thinking bout that :p
     
  48. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    We will get 5870s eventually, sometimes in the coming months. I just know it. There is no point for Dell to hold back. Even Acer already got the 5xxx series in their laptops.
     
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    From the reviews it seems the Acer's are turning out to be a big fail.
     
  50. Alexrose1uk

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    Probably because they've been retarded enough to pair the cores with GDDR3, which absolutely cripples the cards with the 128bus. :(

    Absolutely retarded decision... you can tell the monkeys that made the decision have NO understanding of hardware whatsoever, because no one with any knowlege on how much it would cripple the cards would have been stupid enough to make the decision just to save a relatively small amount of cash per card.
     
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