I would expect to get the same cards that are coming in the R1 laptops
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
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well i'm glad that i have to wait 30 days for my refund to be processed, so by then all these questions will be answered and i'll know what i should order it with.
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You won't need to wait 30 days for the refund to be processed. They told me the same thing when I sent the M15x back and I got the refund a day after they received the M15x.
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I sent mine last tue. Haven't yet got my refund. Hope I get it next week any ways.
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These last 2 weeks have been the longest 2 weeks of my life
Hurry up Dell
Anybody know if I will get my laptop before the eta? (Mine is the 2/3)
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i hope that doesn't happen, i'm using the 30day thing to force myself to wait for the 5870's, i hope it takes 30 days if not i may have to pull the trigger on it.
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The major advantages of the 5870s will be OC potential with the Gddr5 + 40nm core. It should manage close to a 20% lead over 4870 with both overclocked. I'll probably skip it and wait for fermi.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
not true
as testing in another thread is showing, the 5870m's should be able to significantly outperform the 4870s. The architectures may be similar, but the clock speeds are not. At full overclock, the 4870s are still weaker than a stock 5870m. They have the benefit of the 40nm silicon and it is allowing MUCH higher frequencies which is equating to much higher performance.
Mandrake had his 4870s at 650 core 1050 memory. The stock 5870m in the Asus is 700 core and 1000 memory. -
Vantage scores are not indicative of gaming results. It is true that the smaller process will give it a bigger OC potential. At stock the difference in real world gaming should be about 10-15% average. That isn't very compelling to me. If it was 50% across the board Id take notice.
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Also the arch is much different so the 40nm helps but the arch this time around is much better.
With more and more games being console port you will need less gpu power so for me 5870's are over kill and I will skip 5 series because I can't afford them and I do not need them :/ -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
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q6600 @ 3.2 though -
When I get my m17x, I'm going to leave my processor on turbo mode all the time. Will that destroy it?
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Lol no.
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...... No ..... Just no
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still cant believe theres vcore control, the temps are bad enough at stock lol
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Temps are bad enough at stock?
First time I've ever heard that. You're going to be in for a big surprise when your little G73 arrives.
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if the stock load temp is already above 70c (m15x) then expect like a 10c jump when changing voltages
maybe AW changed the cooling?
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What? lol no. The M15x (new one) with the i7 barely hits 66C with extreme load and STOCK paste (e.g. OCCT running which normally puts other laptops on the verge of melting). If the M15x can handle it that well, the M17x-R2 should have no trouble. You should be more concerned about that plastic Asus with it's tiny air intakes. Just remember the old adage, "you get what you pay for" and that always rings true with Asus.
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Actually the asus held up well under stress as far as the CPU went.
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i dont use occt anymore, i use intelcpuburn which takes much less time time to run and stresses the cpu huge amounts
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still don't know what to do, i just wanna future proof my system. as much as possible anyway, i just don't wanna get the 4870's and then when the 5870's come and they destroy the 4870's for some reason that we didn't know about before i'll feel stupid, i suffer from wicked buyers remorse.
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IIRC that was IaTa and the g73 died on him when he pushed the CPU to 100% (it was at around 70% in the power manager by default). There's no solid evidence yet that it holds up well under full load. My bets are it will fail miserably.
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fine joker you can troll what you want but the Asus G73 is a solid laptop -
I'm sure it is a solid laptop but your assertion that it cools as good as a M17x or even M15x is off base unless you can show otherwise. The air intakes are a real concern with that laptop. Ask soviet what he thinks about the G73 cooling..
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Regardless of what we or anyone else says until we get it in our hands to test it's all speculation. The pics just aren't promising.
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I doubt it. When I called xotic they said their pre-orders were already in the triple digits. It all depends on how many they get.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
here is where me and Alex were doing some tests to compare the 5870 (simulated by a desktop 5750) and my 4870s
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5777801&postcount=43
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if i read those things right, then i think you just conviced me to wait for the 5870's
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
lol
The main thing is that the 5870 clocks are just going to be alot higher, making it faster
The 4870s are 550 core 888 memory where the 5870 (in the Asus G73) is 700 core 1000 memory. That difference is huge obviously as the 4870 cannot even be OC'd that far and the 5870 can be OC'd further. The main advantage is the 40nm process has so much OC headroom in it -
Does anybody knows how many hours the new M17x-R2 with this Dual ATI 4870 can get?
I had one M17x with dual SLI 260M and with power saver option enabled + 9400 integrated graphics, I could get up to 3 hours on battery.
I sent it back to get the refreshed one, does anybody knows whats the maximum time the Radeons can get on battery with the M17x-R1?
And will this be the same for the R2?
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
possibly, but his record 06 score was at 650/1050
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Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept
Mandrake's Vantage 14,396 GPU with 675/1150 using ATi 4870s
http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=42650&d=1262125102
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
oh, ok, thanks for the udpate
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The Revelator Notebook Prophet
Seen this? First review of Mobility 5850 in an Acer. Little brother of 5870.
http://twisted-reviews.com/short-review-ati-mobility-radeon-hd5850-1-gb-ddr3-first-benchmarks/ -
Just a quick question: Why aren't people picking the 620m as opposed to the 720QM? I'm just wondering. They are the same price, and besides clock speed, what other advantages are there to the 720QM?
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I chose the 620 for 32nm and the fact that the clocks are higher.
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its better for most games but it will run cooler and if some one finds a way to unlink qpi then well its gonna clock higher
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
well the 620 is a dual with hyperthreading
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620 / ten ...
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