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    *OFFICIAL* "All Powerful" M17x-R2 Edition Owners Lounge!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by 5150Joker, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I would expect to get the same cards that are coming in the R1 laptops
     
  2. Thorpe24

    Thorpe24 Notebook Evangelist

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    well i'm glad that i have to wait 30 days for my refund to be processed, so by then all these questions will be answered and i'll know what i should order it with.
     
  3. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    You won't need to wait 30 days for the refund to be processed. They told me the same thing when I sent the M15x back and I got the refund a day after they received the M15x.
     
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    I sent mine last tue. Haven't yet got my refund. Hope I get it next week any ways.
     
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    javilionaire Notebook Consultant

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    These last 2 weeks have been the longest 2 weeks of my life :(

    Hurry up Dell :(

    Anybody know if I will get my laptop before the eta? (Mine is the 2/3)

    EDIT: well not "know", but "reckon"?
     
  6. Thorpe24

    Thorpe24 Notebook Evangelist

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    i hope that doesn't happen, i'm using the 30day thing to force myself to wait for the 5870's, i hope it takes 30 days if not i may have to pull the trigger on it.
     
  7. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    I would think more like 90. But unless the 5870's are something crazy like 256 and DDRR5 the 4870's would do the trick.
     
  8. 5150Joker

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    The major advantages of the 5870s will be OC potential with the Gddr5 + 40nm core. It should manage close to a 20% lead over 4870 with both overclocked. I'll probably skip it and wait for fermi.
     
  9. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    not true

    as testing in another thread is showing, the 5870m's should be able to significantly outperform the 4870s. The architectures may be similar, but the clock speeds are not. At full overclock, the 4870s are still weaker than a stock 5870m. They have the benefit of the 40nm silicon and it is allowing MUCH higher frequencies which is equating to much higher performance.

    Mandrake had his 4870s at 650 core 1050 memory. The stock 5870m in the Asus is 700 core and 1000 memory.
     
  10. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Vantage scores are not indicative of gaming results. It is true that the smaller process will give it a bigger OC potential. At stock the difference in real world gaming should be about 10-15% average. That isn't very compelling to me. If it was 50% across the board Id take notice.
     
  11. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Also the arch is much different so the 40nm helps but the arch this time around is much better.

    With more and more games being console port you will need less gpu power so for me 5870's are over kill and I will skip 5 series because I can't afford them and I do not need them :/
     
  12. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    They are not everything, but they are pretty good at indicating dx10 game performance. Keep in mind that if you score 12000 points on GPU, then 2000 points is 16.7%, which is in line with what you were saying ;)
     
  13. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    which thread?
     
  14. Zero989

    Zero989 Notebook Virtuoso

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    javilionaire Notebook Consultant

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    When I get my m17x, I'm going to leave my processor on turbo mode all the time. Will that destroy it?
     
  16. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Lol no.

    10char
     
  17. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    ...... No ..... Just no
     
  18. Zero989

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    still cant believe theres vcore control, the temps are bad enough at stock lol
     
  19. 5150Joker

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    Temps are bad enough at stock? o_O First time I've ever heard that. You're going to be in for a big surprise when your little G73 arrives.
     
  20. Zero989

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    well i7s in general get extremely hot

    if the stock load temp is already above 70c (m15x) then expect like a 10c jump when changing voltages

    maybe AW changed the cooling?

    the i7s have a much bigger cpu die than c2d/c2q
     
  21. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    What? lol no. The M15x (new one) with the i7 barely hits 66C with extreme load and STOCK paste (e.g. OCCT running which normally puts other laptops on the verge of melting). If the M15x can handle it that well, the M17x-R2 should have no trouble. You should be more concerned about that plastic Asus with it's tiny air intakes. Just remember the old adage, "you get what you pay for" and that always rings true with Asus.
     
  22. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Actually the asus held up well under stress as far as the CPU went.

    The cooling system is just as good as the m17x ... There have been pictures in the g73 lounge
     
  23. Zero989

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    i havent used occt in a while, but i thought i read a review saying an m15x hits 73c

    i dont use occt anymore, i use intelcpuburn which takes much less time time to run and stresses the cpu huge amounts

    and as for the asus, no comment lol, chances are i wont even keep it
     
  24. Mandrake

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    for some reason I thought someone was actually testing a 5870.

    Seriously? Nothing to prove that up to this point except Asus marketing propaganda. As joker said they are tiny air vents that don't compare to the M17x. That is my biggest worry in getting the G73.
     
  25. Thorpe24

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    still don't know what to do, i just wanna future proof my system. as much as possible anyway, i just don't wanna get the 4870's and then when the 5870's come and they destroy the 4870's for some reason that we didn't know about before i'll feel stupid, i suffer from wicked buyers remorse.
     
  26. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    no @ CES some one ran HWmonitor and the CPU under load was @ high 60's
     
  27. 5150Joker

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    IIRC that was IaTa and the g73 died on him when he pushed the CPU to 100% (it was at around 70% in the power manager by default). There's no solid evidence yet that it holds up well under full load. My bets are it will fail miserably.
     
  28. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    ....

    fine joker you can troll what you want but the Asus G73 is a solid laptop
     
  29. 5150Joker

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    I'm sure it is a solid laptop but your assertion that it cools as good as a M17x or even M15x is off base unless you can show otherwise. The air intakes are a real concern with that laptop. Ask soviet what he thinks about the G73 cooling..
     
  30. Mandrake

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    Regardless of what we or anyone else says until we get it in our hands to test it's all speculation. The pics just aren't promising.
     
  31. 5150Joker

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    I agree. Are you in the first wave of shipments? I'm looking forward to you pushing it and putting up results.
     
  32. Mandrake

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    I doubt it. When I called xotic they said their pre-orders were already in the triple digits. It all depends on how many they get.
     
  33. cookinwitdiesel

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    if i read those things right, then i think you just conviced me to wait for the 5870's
     
  35. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    lol

    The main thing is that the 5870 clocks are just going to be alot higher, making it faster

    The 4870s are 550 core 888 memory where the 5870 (in the Asus G73) is 700 core 1000 memory. That difference is huge obviously as the 4870 cannot even be OC'd that far and the 5870 can be OC'd further. The main advantage is the 40nm process has so much OC headroom in it
     
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    Does anybody knows how many hours the new M17x-R2 with this Dual ATI 4870 can get?

    I had one M17x with dual SLI 260M and with power saver option enabled + 9400 integrated graphics, I could get up to 3 hours on battery.

    I sent it back to get the refreshed one, does anybody knows whats the maximum time the Radeons can get on battery with the M17x-R1?
    And will this be the same for the R2?

    Thanks.
     
  37. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    I believe Mandrake pushed his 4870s further than 700/1000. Thats why his GPU score is over 14000.
     
  38. cookinwitdiesel

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    possibly, but his record 06 score was at 650/1050
     
  39. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

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  40. cookinwitdiesel

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    oh, ok, thanks for the udpate
     
  41. The Revelator

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    Just a quick question: Why aren't people picking the 620m as opposed to the 720QM? I'm just wondering. They are the same price, and besides clock speed, what other advantages are there to the 720QM?

    Or is this the same old, plain and simple, Quad vs Dual question like T9600 vs. Q9000? If so, feel free to ignore this post!
     
  43. sleey0

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    I chose the 620 for 32nm and the fact that the clocks are higher.
     
  44. The_Moo™

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    its better for most games but it will run cooler and if some one finds a way to unlink qpi then well its gonna clock higher
     
  45. WaR

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    Which one are you referring to?
     
  46. WaR

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    I thought the same. I'm like--where is the catch?
     
  47. cookinwitdiesel

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    well the 620 is a dual with hyperthreading

    not a quad, so half the threads of the 720/820/920
     
  48. The_Moo™

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    620 / ten ...
     
  49. Mandrake

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    When you configured the i7-620M M17x were you forced to pick 1066 memory? According to Intel it supports DDR3-800/1066 while the i7-720QM supports DDR3-1066/1333.
     
  50. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

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    Thats why I picked 720 and above for that reason, so I could use my 1333mhz memory.
     
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