*OFFICIAL* M11x Owners Lounge - Part 3

To everyone planning to just return it if you don't like it.

Dell Return Policy:

If you'd like to return your Dell order please note:

* You must contact Customer Service within 21 days of the invoice date.

* Unless the product is defective or the return is a direct result of a Dell error, a restocking fee may apply of up to 15% of the purchase price paid, plus any applicable sales tax.

They are not just gonna let you return it for no reason, and I am pretty sure "It doesn't overclock to 1.73!111!!" is not gonna work.

 

I understand that the whole point of getting the SU7300 is to take advantage of that 20% increase in performance.

It's probably been answered before in the past 500+ pages as we are in the 3rd thread already, but how much long term damage does OC'ing the m11x do?

Will the battery run out quicker if you switch back to 1.3ghz because it's been stressed so much by the OC in its past?

 

Um... the SU4100 can over-clock too... I thought...

 

Just sell it on EBay rather than return it, most likely that's what i'm going to do at this point. The hard part will be not opening it so that I can sell it as NIB. 15% restocking fees are ridiculous, i'm fairly certain someone will buy it on Ebay for probably more than we all paid with the epp discounts.

 

Battery won't be stressed if voltage isn't affected, or even if marginally increased. As long as the voltage and thermals stay within spec, it'll last as long at any speed.

Although if they offer the OC feature and it doesn't OC, then that is an issue, unless it says specifically somewhere (and not buried in super fine print in one of the 18 flyers that comes with the laptop) that the OC feature does not guarantee a successful overclock.

 

I'm just irritated by this latest mishap.

I've owned multiple AW's throughout the years, and they're just a different (inferior) company since Dell got a hold of them.

The one thing I will not do is blindly suck up to a company that is alienating (no pun intended >_>) its core audience (pc enthusiasts).

I really blew up in the m17x r2 owner's thread because of all the issues I was having (and still am waiting patiently for a bios fix to alleviate), and recently tried to calm down and accept the situation, but I don't know if I can tolerate another Dell/AW misstep with their "cutting edge" technology.

AW undervolting the SU7300 is just an absolutely asinine maneuver.

 

How many slots of ram does the M11x have?

 

You're not doing "damage" to your SU7300 processor by overclocking it to 1.73 GHZ. There's so much misinformation going around right now it's infuriating.

This is an undervolted and underclocked processor to begin with, a minor OC with a minor temp increase is absolutely going to do nothing to harm it.

I speak from experience with this very processor.

 

Two.

10char

 

Will the 2GB ram configuration likely be one stick of 2gb or two sticks of 1gb?

 

Is this such a big deal, really, think about it we can all get 1.6ghz? and possibly in the future we will get the 1.73ghz when somebody figures out a way round etc. I think there is some serious overreaction going on here.

 

AWESOME, thanks man!!! Look forward to more benchies from ya.

 

I think it would be 2 sticks of 1 GB.

 

I believe I remember hearing it will be 2x 1GB sticks. Could be wrong.

 

@maverick76
One person had a bad experience overclocking, everyone else that has tried it hasn't had a problem. The only issue however is that everyone assumed we would get a 1.73 overclock and it appears to be a 1.6 overclock instead.

Personally I think it is a bug somewhere. It doesn't make sense why they would have the the stock multiplier of 6.5x change to 6x when overclocked when all we are doing is bumping the FSB up for the ram to what it is rated for.

 

Give this a look too, http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...52921666065650&categoryId=8198552921644702498

That is what i'm going to get instead.

There is thread for it here, http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=447505&page=247 , if you have any questions.

 

I may just cancel my order now. There is no reason this laptop shouldn't be able to hit 1.73ghz if other laptops with the SU7300 can do it without a problem.

 

I noticed this:
alienware.com advertises DDR3 800MHz.
alienware.co.uk and alienware.es DDR3 1066MHz.
Will US M11x begin to ship with 800MHz RAM?

Also Alienware says 6100+ @ 3dmark06. If they don't advertise the OC feature, one can assume they benchmarked @ 1.3GHz.
Already saw below 6000 marks from one user. Can anyone else test it at stock?

 

That's exactly my point. The AW of all ones, being the one with the OC'ing problem.

It's like a joke.

 

That’s to expensive.

 

Excellent, maybe I'll get mine a day earlier!

 

Yup AW is always the cutting edge pushing the limits past other companies. This time other companies are pushing past AW. I hope they fix this issue ASAP...

 

I agree with BrianIRL. This is taken way out of proportion. Does it game in a decent manner? YES. Can it overclock? YES. Was the selling point strictly around overclocking? NO.

A lot of people are missing the purpose of this system and looking at one specific piece. Cottabe already posted benchmarks that shows it preforms as intended or implied(whichever you chose).

 

As far as I know and from my own experience, Dell never actually charge restocking fees even though it says so in their policy.

 

Key is "may apply". If you are a customer with a history of past sales, Dell will NEVER charge a restock, if in the first 21 days. BANK ON IT. Probably will not
even if this is the first sale, but do not kid yourself that they will charge it- normally. You would have to completely pi55 them off to get them to charge the restock.

 

One person has a problem with their machine and people start jumping ship? WOW, I like my chances of mine arriving earlier!

 

Yes please everyone call and cancel your orders =). I am still keeping mine lolol.

 

homebrewer said they want to charge him restock fee and it is defective! Maybe if they see the bad press from this thread they won't charge him restocking fee. It is bs to charge restocking fee on defective item IMO.

 

well correct me if i'm wrong here, but didn't Homebrew also get his to work with the OC on the integrated gfx? wouldn't that point to like the mobo? sorry, i have limited experience... but i'm just puzzled by that...

 

No I'll put my mum on the phone to act dumb (or be ha) plus the screen issue plus it crashes nearly straight away when overclocked

Oh and yes it works fine overclocked on intergrated but after like 5 minutes when I switch to discrete it crashes, weird thing is I can't do anything apart from change the brightness and obviously turn it off when it does.. anyway it's back in its box now ready to be picked back up

 

Not really, it points more to weak power supply... makes sense why they lower the vcore and the multiplier on the cpu because it probably draws too much power when using the 335m like I posted earlier. I mean they have to intentionally lower the multi on that cpu it is default 4x and 6.5x multi, for it to go to 6x Dell has to intentionally program the bios to only allow 6x otherwise it will always go to 6.5x so why did they lower it?

Homebrewer system works fine with 335m disabled but has problems with 335m enabled...

Just guessing of course but it makes sense to me.

Here is something, Homebrew, try to lower your brightness all the way as low as it will go and see if it takes longer to crash, it will draw less power with the display all the way too low, that will give us some idea.

Actually when I think about it, you could be right could also be too small traces on the mobo not capable to carry the current required, if that was the case lowering the brightness might not have any effect.

 

There is no such thing as 800 MHz DDR3 Memory. DDR3 1066MHz memory (PC3 8500) is the slowest speed they make.

 

I purchased it because I own the SU7300 and know how easily it overclocks. So for me, the selling point was the OC'ing potential. I'm my own consumer, I don't need you telling me what the selling point for me was, because the term "selling point" is subjective and you need to understand that.

I am not the type of consumer to turn a blind eye when something does not perform as it should.

My personal battle with purchasing this system was initially the weak processor, but I ultimately purchased it knowing how easily it overclocks. If you can, for a second, show a little empathy, you'll understand the frustration that comes with seeing that potential being stifled by a questionable design on AW's part.

Also understand I just went through nothing but frustration with my m17xR2, because AW shipped defective R2's to everyone that purchased it with a 920XM processor. We're all still waiting on a bios fix to even use the damn thing normally.

I'm sorry, say what you will, but I'm not satisfied with AW atm.

 

We all wish you well Homebrew, and hey i think this whole jumping ship thing is gonna create a tighter group of people on these threads and might make it a little less cluttered.

 

Does anyone that has a m11x play Star Trek Online? I REALLY wanna know how it runs. I'm seriously interested in it, but STO and Diablo 3 are the main games i plan to play. With D3 being made by blizzard, i assume it will run well on almost everything, so thats not really a problem. With all the sto i play at the moment, though, it's a big deal for me.

 

Yeah it runs at 800 though due to the motheboard

 

Scrap that it was not about my post, my fault.

 

Depending upon the thermal interface material that Dell used it could take a while for the material to break in and work correctly. I've had the exact problem you're seeing now when I was testing out several different types of pads on a notebook. Until the pad heats up and melts it doesn't work very well. Once it has heated and the excess flows out the CPU temps stabilize. That might explain why you're not having problems now.

 

Go here and post a thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16 lot of people will help you find what you looking for.

 

You are really missing the point of M11x, it's meant to be portable with long battery life, I am sure they could've paired with another CPU that's more powerful, but they specifically went with SU to get the most out of battery.

Also, in my experience with SU processors they are not as "weak" as you say, they provide enough capability to do any task that anyone needs. If you want performance then there are plenty of other options.

 

@ travis:
check this: http://www.intel.com/technology/memory/ddr/valid/ddr3_dimm_results.htm

OC or no OC, 3dmark06 @ stock anyone? It should be around 6100.

 

Well, in their defense, must admit that first impressions are what they are Fair or not.

Seems like the memory may be the issue? Can we confirm the laptops running at 1.6ghz have 1066 memory? As far as comparing to Asus, it is more than fair. Please think of the irony (if the 1.6 cap is true):

A non-gaming device (30vt) clocks to 1.73ghz and does not even need a bios switch to do it, but a device being pushed as a gaming rig (M11x) may perhaps be capped to 1.6ghz, even though the 7300 is very mature and has a proven ceiling to work FINE at 1.73ghz.

The irony is startling, actually. The 335m and most games could have used the extra 173mhz, since the 335m is NOT the bottleneck. Even more ironic since the Asus has a 210m and the gpu IS the bottleneck on the 30vt. So, the Asus has 1.73ghz and does not really need it and the M11x may not and does need it. Irony I tell ya, irony! If correct, of course

 

@ SaosinEngaged

I agree with you that the selling point is subjective and specific to the individual.
For me I am coming off of an HP TX2120US with some serious overheating problems, so for me the AW M11x appears to be within my price point and offers significantly better cooling.

 

Ye i can lol at that okay, but who knows, maybe this may all be solved and eventually will hit 1.73, all I can say is that for me, this is not huge or big for that matter, as long as i can hit 1.6 i'm fine with that.

 

So I got mine (the "I thought it was canceled" version). The part above the keyboard is really cheap. It already has scratches on it.

 

@jonjonk, cept for the poor piece how are you finding it ?

 

Thank you. :wub:

 

@jojos = Forum rules say no animated stuff in your sig so take it off before a mod gets to yah mate

@rushy = We'll need more units to hit us before we can call the final judgement for sure.

@jonjonk = Did you get a banana? ROFL. Is yours working fine?

 

isnt there a way to just manually change the voltage & multiplier in the bios?

 

I haven't really done anything yet. This version has the SU4100 and 160GB HD. I'm probably going to keep it in the box until I get all the DPA stuff sorted out. The piece of plastic above the keyboard...omfg, it's like a plastic sticker. Sorry folks, I'm not going to test anything on it yet. Not going to waste time on a system that I might not be able to keep. I'm still waiting on my "real" (with same spec as my sig) laptop that should arrive 2 weeks from now.

edit: the lid is a HUGE fingerprint magnet lol Still looks cool in black though.