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    **Official Alienware M11x Owner's Lounge**

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by MAG, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. opnickc

    opnickc Notebook Consultant

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    New images posted on the official website. I was thinking before that the Alienhead logo on the back of the lid wasn't illuminated (or that it was illuminated in white by the LCD backlight). Good to see that it's got full AlienFX.

    [​IMG]
     
  2. bluehaze013

    bluehaze013 Notebook Evangelist

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    Pretty sure it will come with at least an i5 for the 999 pricepoint, can't see anyone flopping down 1000 bucks for an 11" notebook with 1.3ghz core 2 duo when you can already get these for 400 bucks, should know in a few days I would think.
     
  3. opnickc

    opnickc Notebook Consultant

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    Um, where?

    Newegg doesn't have any 11.6" laptops with that cpu. And, regardless of screen size, there aren't a lot and none are $400.

    Same deal at Best Buy, laptops with this CPU are 14.1"/15.6" and cost $700.
     
  4. cookinwitdiesel

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    this thing needs to just come out already!
     
  5. opnickc

    opnickc Notebook Consultant

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    Agreed! Especially since I don't have a laptop right now!

    Hurry it up Alienware, lest I break down and grab an ASUS from Best Buy!
     
  6. rpg-XPS

    rpg-XPS Notebook Evangelist

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    The release prices for the Core i* ULV's earlier this month were $241 for the i5-520UM, $278 for the i7-620UM and $305 for the i7-640UM. The release price for the SU7300 in late 09' was $289. I know other factors will cause a i5/i7 build to be higher in overall cost, but it can't be that much since the CPU's are similarly priced.

    They have to be teasing us. I bet you all the guys in AW are laughing at this thread.
     
  7. Thierry19

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    UM stands for ultra mobility I guess?
    Well we'll just wait and see, since the release date is january 2010, it cant be much longer :p
     
  8. Thorpe24

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    if u look up those chips he mentioned on the intel site, they all fit the specs of the last gen culv su7300
     
  9. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Since no one wants to buy my desktop I may just hold onto that and not get ths M11x, still very interested in seeing what it can do though!
     
  10. bluehaze013

    bluehaze013 Notebook Evangelist

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    Samsung x120, Acer Aspire timeline 1810, Lenovo Ideapad U105? I think is the model number... just going off the top of my head. There are a bunch of em out there in 11.6"/12" size
     
  11. Thierry19

    Thierry19 Coffee enthusiast

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    None of them have a discrete gpu, and none of them have a sexy Alien FX lighting stuff :3
     
  12. rpg-XPS

    rpg-XPS Notebook Evangelist

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    I think opnickc thought you were referring specifically to SU7300 netbooks, not dual-core netbooks in general. But yeah, I agree. The Acer Ferrari One also has a similarly clocked dual-core AMD processor and it's priced around $500 IIRC.

    Fair enough, the graphics on these netbooks aren't in anywhere near the performance of the GT335M, but everything else pretty much is. AW really need to fit a i7-640UM to take king of the netbooks, a C2D is simply not enough.
     
  13. bluehaze013

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    Never said they did... Was only talking about the outdated Core 2 duo processor :D

    If you want discrete have to go up to 13" like ul30vt and some others. Point was though that i'm sure this thing will release with an option for i5 or i7, the Core2 duo stuff is old and on it's way out. I looked around and it is actually kind of hard to find these right now probably because these models are due for a refresh to Arrandale i5/i7.

    Those are all available with su7300 or they were at some point. They might be hard to find now i'm thinking because it's due for a refresh to i5/i7? Prolly will start seeing alot of these in the near future. And yep this thing really needs to come with i5 or i7 to be worth it! I'm pretty sure it will.
     
  14. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    Just read an Apple article regarding the i5-UM series about a possible delay in them, but a few things of interest..

    from http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/22/claimed_low_voltage_intel_core_i5_delay_could_impact_macbook_air_upgrade.html

    this leads me to believe the delay in shipping the M11x until February in order to get the i5's received and ready to go. I don't want to believe too much that i5's will be in the M11x so I won't be let down, but I have a feeling it's true.
     
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    rpg-XPS Notebook Evangelist

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    Ah right, very good. I'd say so, it'd be crazy for AW to release a new netbook with C2D technology, when the majority of other manufacturers have or are in the process of releasing ULV i* netbooks.

    Every day that passes, I think to myself how crazy it would be for them to release the M11x with a C2D... so I'm getting more optimistic as the days go on! :D
     
  16. bluehaze013

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    Yea I think if they were going to stay with Core 2 Duo they would have released it already. I'm thinking the reason it doesn't release until February is because the final version will be with the Arrandales.
     
  17. opnickc

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    First off, all three of those have integrated graphics.

    Second, the SU4100 CPU in the Samsung (and I think the Acer) is worse than the Alienware's assumed SU7300 (does not support virtualization, for one).

    Third, and most importantly, your pricing is way off. The Acer is $600, not $400, and I can't find a price on the Samsung.

    The Lenovo U150 (on sale, I should note) is $650 with the same CPU as the Samsung. With the SU7300 in the Alienware, the Lenovo starts at $750, and that's the sale price. The normal price is $850, more than double the price you stated and right in line with the expected price of the m11x, which will be a vastly superior machine.

    EDIT - I see the CPU issue was already raised, but my point remains: You can't buy a ULV Core 2 Duo laptop for $400, they cost $600-$900. The Alienware, having its dedicated GPU, makes perfect sense priced as it is. That said, I would love an iX CPU as much as anyone, but all this talk seems like wishful thinking to me. Would love to proven wrong, of course. :)
     
  18. rpg-XPS

    rpg-XPS Notebook Evangelist

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    I hope so! I really need something capable to replace my 3-year old M1330, but I'm not going to invest in a CPU that's slower than my T7500!

    @opnickc, nothing slips through your fingers does it? :D
     
  19. opnickc

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    Scientist in training here :D
     
  20. bluehaze013

    bluehaze013 Notebook Evangelist

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    Show me where I ever said any of these had discrete graphics? Please try to read better before replying... it is quite rude to put words in others mouths.

    Perhaps I was a bit conservative on pricing, I am fairly certain at least the Acer has been on sale for 450 before though because I almost bought one last year :) In the end I decided to wait for 1201n though because I wanted something a little better for gaming.

    Cheers
     
  21. opnickc

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    You didn't say that, what you implied (unless I misunderstood) was that people would buy these cheaper ULV systems over the m11x. I was just pointing out a reason this simply wasn't true. My wording was clumsy in the previous post, so for that I apologize. :) It's an apples to oranges comparison - that's all I was getting at.

    -EDIT-
    And back on topic, I hate to be a downer, but I have to point out that Alienware's official advertisements for the M11x list it as having a Core 2 Duo, not an i5. Just check out the Alienware Arena homepage, there's an ad on the right and the bottom - both are for the m11x and both say "Intel Core 2 Duo Inside".
     
  22. bluehaze013

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    You misunderstood, my point was the discrete graphics do not make the lappy worth double the price...That was why I was pointing out other lappy's with the same processor minus the discrete graphics that cost half as much as the 11x.

    And the only reason I was making that point was to emphasize that I feel at the 999.00 pricepoint that the 11x will come with i5 or i7 because otherwise it is a ridculous price for a core 2 duo lappy considering they are currently being phased out in favor of the i5's/i7's.

    Of course I can be wrong, there is no way of knowing til it is actually released, but I certainly hope it has i5/i7 because I really want to buy one!

    Cheers.
     
  23. bluehaze013

    bluehaze013 Notebook Evangelist

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    You are correct :( That sucks :( I suppose I will wait for MBP 13 with i5 and discreet graphics then... Damnit knew this was too good to be true :(
     
  24. opnickc

    opnickc Notebook Consultant

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    Ok, my bad. :)

    And I wanted to point out that they didn't - the Lenovo is the only one with the same processor and it costs $750 on sale, hardly less than the suspected $800 starting price of the m11x.

    $999 doesn't seem ridiculous given the price of the lenovo you pointed out, but it certainly makes a less compelling package. Yeah, especially with core 2 being the older tech that it is now. Let's hope cnet is right about its $799 starting price prediction, regardless of CPU.

    Same here :D

    You as well!

    -EDIT-
    Sorry to disappoint bluehaze. :( It might still be worth a consideration, depending on graphics need, if the new MBP's GPU isn't up to snuff. But good luck on your choice regardless :)
     
  25. Thorpe24

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    it's also been stated multiple times that it's an optional processor, in the vids from ces and what not. you bring up a valid point, but in my opinion if they waited so long after announcing it's to wait for i5 supplies they could have released it with the su7300 next day but they didn't.
     
  26. bluehaze013

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    Nah those all are available with su7300 they are just different configurations of them. I am not sure why they are so expensive now. The Acer MSRP was 599.00 and i almost bought one from Amazon a couple months ago for i'm almost positive it was 449.99 but might have been 499.99.

    Here you can see the MSRP and with the 7300: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/...d=news_view&newsId=20091014005366&newsLang=en

    I think if this is going to have 7300 and 1000 dollar pricetag it is not worth it to me, the new MBP 13 with i5 is coming real soon which should be around 1200 and it comes with discrete graphics and should perform better with bootcamp because the processors in these things are the bottlenecks when it comes to gaming IMO.

    I will hold out and wait to see what happens though there is still a chance it will come with i5, I don't really see why they wouldn't have released it by now if it was going to come with Core 2 Duo, maybe the advertisement is a misprint based on old specs or something.
     
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    I completely disagree with that statement. Any gamer should and would disagree with that statement.

    Discrete graphics is worth an extra bill or two to me any day of the week.
     
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    This is a very good point and something I've thought about a couple times.

    The only real reason AW has for not doing a "AND ITS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW!" type deal (when the hype was highest) is that they are waiting for Core I availability and maybe (if we're lucky) some final testing of the chips and which chips will work. I think of the UM series they are all the same socket, but they probably have to test the thermal performance among other things before they ship em out.

    Lets hope they are testing it at least ;-) They certainly didn't test my XPS1645....
     
  29. bluehaze013

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    Extra bill or two yes, extra 500 bucks? No ;)
     
  30. aznguyen316

    aznguyen316 Rock Chalk Jayhawk

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    If the MB comes with i5 + ATI 5830 or something, then yeah I'll be spending the extra cash. I don't mind going back to Mac, the reason I left it was due to not enough gaming power. Now after 2-3 laptops (MB-> SXPS 1640 -> Sager), I know what I miss and need most and it's SOME (discrete) gaming power, and portability/battery.
     
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    AW would be mad to not put an i5 of some sort in the M11x?! And it does makes sense what was said before with the release date of Feb being a time at which AW will have decent stocks of i5's to start shipping.
     
  32. bluehaze013

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    So much wait and see stuff is driving me crazy LOL Supposed to be a big Apple conference on the 27th so hopefully they announce the specs then and I guess we will know on the 2nd or 5th the specs of the m11x. Wish I had a time machine :D
     
  33. aznguyen316

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    Yeah, I know the conference will probably be mostly about iLife and new Tablet I hope they sneak in info on refreshes for the new MBP since it's due for one. But yeah this waiting really sucks, luckily I'll be busy throughout the work week this week and probably next so time will probably go by pretty fast for me.
     
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    Well the Macs are due for a new release, and a macbook refresh isn't really anything groundbreaking, so i wouldn't be blown away if they had the refresh on the 27th and then their usual one-more-thing nonsense.

    If a 13" mbpro is released with i5 and a significant GPU upgrade I will probably go that route.
     
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    so if this thing ships with the stated Core I5 1.8ghz processor would that be enough to meet the minimum cpu spec requirements of bad company 2? it says it needs a 2.0ghz core 2 duo.. so wouldnt the Core i5 be faster even at 1.8ghz i mean you can always overclock to 2.0 i guess.... But it should still be enough right?
     
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    Probably, I am off work til the 3rd and am starting to go stir crazy LOL Forum hugging like mad...I think i'll get ME2 from Steam that should tide me over for a few days. One thing is for sure seems like we are on the precipice of the next gen stuff so even if both the mac and the 11x end up disappointing it seems like something else might be along really soon to fill the bill. We just have to be patient I guess. (Something i'm not very good at LOL)
     
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    (repost cause no one answered yet or cares :( ) so if this thing ships with the stated Core I5 1.8ghz processor would that be enough to meet the minimum cpu spec requirements of bad company 2? it says it needs a 2.0ghz core 2 duo.. so wouldnt the Core i5 be faster even at 1.8ghz i mean you can always overclock to 2.0 i guess.... But it should still be enough right?


    and i know for sure that 1.3 (even possibly overclocked) core 2 duo isnt going to cut it...

    that is unless i OC it to 2.0 ghz :D
     
  39. nuke737

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    As long as the i5 has turbo boost i guess. If it ships without turbo boost then... tough luck. Thats just my newbie guess.

    EDIT: Turns out the i5-520um has a base clock of 1.08GHz and turbo boosts to 1.86Ghz. Guess it should be possible but it might heat up the machine a bit, right?
     
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    What!! I thought they said it was going to cheap, 1,599!! lol cmon what the heck. What happened to 1,000 or so, damn alienware, but hey we better start counting down the days little more than a week from today! Yeah time to customize it!
     
  41. nuke737

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    Good sir, that pricetag is in Australian dollars.
     
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    My mistake lol, sheesh the euro is so higher than ours just like CAD, so then it will be available on Feb 3 in the United States or Australia first? How excited about this machine are you? Thank you sir for correcting me.
     
  43. nuke737

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    Very, I sold off my Dell 1537 since november and am living off a HP Mini 2140 since. Miss gaming on my own rig very very dearly. Having to share with 2 brothers who want to game as much as you is... painful. Guess it should hit Aussie shores later than the states. Them aussies are prone to getting stuff late.
     
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    Yeah i can imagine how it feels not game when you want with others, damn so you have been using a netbook lol? That must suck, are you overclocking the processor? is it the 1.66 or.1.6?
     
  45. nuke737

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    Plus we bros have different steam accounts. Lol. Yes I have, not for gaming though. Gaming is only done on the family PC now since my dell is gone and dad's downgraded his Vaio Z (old model) to a TT for portability. Its rubbish and the resolution is just too odd even for some old games ergo Warcraft 3.

    EDIT: Its the n270 so it should be 1.6. Great for doing work but gaming is... crappy at best.
     
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    i feel for ya man trying to game on an 1000HE seems like 2004 in an endless loop lol... so ill be selling it on this site so i can afford my m11x if it has a core i5 in it or a 2.0 c2d otherwise im going with the asus ul30JT atleased it can play bad company 2 on low..and thats all i really care about is just playing the game where ever i am...
     
  47. nuke737

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    Lol... Quote random PSA: Don't try this at home.

    Really hoping for the m11x to have a core i5 or at least a high end c2d too cause lugging at 4 kilo lappie to college and back was just as painful. T_T
     
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    Still, 1599 AUS dollars around 1440 US dollars

    If its true I hope its a maxed out version with either i7 or i5
     
  49. nuke737

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    I've spent a year in Australia and they usually have stuff overpriced. Such as having PS3 slims at 499AUD even though its 299USD in the states. They pay more tax and even more for shipping lol. You can't compare it laterally.
     
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