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    RAM: 1333Mhz vs. 1066Mhz in M17x

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Scytus, Jun 27, 2009.

  1. Scytus

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    sort of an off topic question...

    but is BIGX333...Mr. Bicep?

    I was looking over the m17x videos, and noticed that this one: [click me]
    was uploaded by BIGX333...

    I'm scared
     
    Scytus, Jul 6, 2009
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  2. Mandrake

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    OMG! :eek:

    Hopefully he just uploaded the video or has nothing to do with him. Otherwise we might just have to create a side topic full of ridicule. ;)
     
    Mandrake, Jul 6, 2009
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  3. dondadah88

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    Lol. i'm scared as well.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 6, 2009
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  4. BIGX333

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    Exactly... With divisors is possible :p .

    Need to be tested :p .

    Can you give me more details about your settings?, still trying 1:2 or you r using other divisors ?, what the settings of your max stable clock? (ram/divisor/cpu ?).

    Hell no! :D

    I just found it on facebook and uploaded it on youtube to post it here lol. I'm not Mr. Bicep (thankz god lol) :D .
     
    BIGX333, Jul 9, 2009
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  5. dondadah88

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    that's not what you name says
    bigx333(big muscles. x333 =????)
     
    dondadah88, Jul 9, 2009
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  6. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    Unh...

    BIG = I'm 6'4
    X = You know... Roman numerals :D
    333 = Masonic number wrote 3 times

    Or can be a conspiracy :eek:

    :D

    PS: You sig make me want to watch dn again lol.
     
    BIGX333, Jul 9, 2009
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  7. dondadah88

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    surei would say that to if i were you. :)

    watch it it's just that good. like the avitar also. it's light as well. you should also watch black lagoon. very good.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 9, 2009
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  8. Mandrake

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    More testing is needed and I can give you more specifics later. I'll be home in 5 hours or so.

    Thanks again...Mr.Bicep. :D
     
    Mandrake, Jul 9, 2009
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  9. Mandrake

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    1:2 is the most stable, can't get 1:1 unless I could get my FSB up to 1600 (not gonna happen). As I said before I can change my timings just not the CL. I'll post a pic in a little bit.

    Edit: Clock changing options
    [​IMG]

    Edit2: Current Clocks w/1066

    [​IMG]
     
    Mandrake, Jul 10, 2009
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  10. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    What FSB/MULT u r trying ?

    8:14 is a bit tricky but as you can change MULT you can try to use 5:8 which would be just stable as 1:2 .
     
    BIGX333, Jul 10, 2009
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  11. Mandrake

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    that's leaving the mem at 1066 and upping the fsb to 1200.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 10, 2009
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  12. BIGX333

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    You can try 1333 FSB with 10.5/10 mult (u r running at 3.4 right?)... Your ram you will be at 1066 using 5:8 divisor.

    Or you can lower your ram to 1000 to use 3:5.
     
    BIGX333, Jul 10, 2009
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  13. Mandrake

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    Actually I started testing out my P8700. I know I convoluted things now.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 10, 2009
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  14. BIGX333

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    Unh... Okay.

    BTW you remember what setting u was trying with 1066 and don't got stable but does with 1333 ?.
     
    BIGX333, Jul 10, 2009
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  15. Mandrake

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    No but if I go through my posts I could probably figure it out.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 10, 2009
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  16. Mandrake

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    The problem was raising the 1066 memory to 1200 trying to keep a 1:2 ratio.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 10, 2009
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  17. Mandrake

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    From Mr. Moo's review, the reason why 1333 and 1066 are different (not necessarily better). I'm going to test this with my HyperX memory when I get home tonight.

    [​IMG]
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  18. dondadah88

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    compare it to yours
     
    dondadah88, Jul 21, 2009
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  19. Mandrake

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    I can provide a screen shot of my 1333 and 1066 memory later when I get home.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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    1333 @cl11 !!
     
    kaltmond, Jul 21, 2009
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  21. Glzmo

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    I have 1333MHz RAM (there was no 1066MHz option in Europe when I ordered). However, if I run it at 1333MHz with the 9400 on-board video card enabled, it boots to windows but the display becomes dark once in Windows. If I disable it I can run perfectly Prime stable with just the 280Ms in SLI and the memory at 1333MHz. But when I enable the 9400, be it in hybrid or single mode, I have to downclock the RAM to 1066MHz. Looks like the 9400M doesn't like high RAM speeds.
    The CL7@1066MHz seems to be slightly faster in games than the CL9@1333MHz anyway.
     
    Glzmo, Jul 21, 2009
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  22. blade445

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    I have mine set at 1333, and fsb at 1166 and have no problems at all running with the 9400m on?
     
    blade445, Jul 21, 2009
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  23. Mandrake

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    Samsung 1333 memory running at 1333

    [​IMG]

    Samsung 1333 memory running at 1066

    [​IMG]

    Kingston HyperX 1066 running at 1066

    [​IMG]

    Kingston HyperX 1066 running at 1333 (bios reads CAS as "B"?)

    [​IMG]
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  24. Megacharge

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    Hey mandrake, the Kingston Hyper X is able to run at 1066 at 5 - 5 - 5 - 15, and the M17x bios can manually adjust ram clock speeds, have you tried running locked 1066 at 5 - 5 - 5 - 15 yet, and also, have you tried, setting it to 5 - 5 - 5 - 15, manually and then over clocking the ram, and try and get to 1333 7 - 7 - 7 - 20 or something similar?
     
    Megacharge, Jul 21, 2009
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  25. Scytus

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    That one suprised me

    11 clocks
     
    Scytus, Jul 21, 2009
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  26. Mandrake

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    The Bios does not support changing the timings only the fsb of the memory. If I bring it down to 800 the CAS will show up as 6.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  27. Mandrake

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    and there is the difference between 1066 and 1333 memory. Finally an answer. Now I'm waiting for BIGX to respond to tell me I did something wrong. ;)
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  28. Megacharge

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    Weird, I was positive the M17x's mobo allowed for manual manipulation of the individual memory timings. Guess I wont be wasting 100$+ on the hyper X. lol
     
    Megacharge, Jul 21, 2009
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  29. Scytus

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    yess, I myself will also being anticipating mr. biceps response :p
     
    Scytus, Jul 21, 2009
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  30. BIGX333

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    Response to what?, i really didn't understood the point here lol.
     
    BIGX333, Jul 21, 2009
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    So your saying if your drop the mem down to 800, it will be faster?
     
    blade445, Jul 21, 2009
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  32. Mandrake

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    The only point I am making is that running the 1066 memory at 1333 shows up with a CAS of 11.

    Your latency will be smaller but your frequency will be slower.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  33. BIGX333

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    Just like i said before... That's probably because 1066 don't have SPD for 1333 and bios use the higher CL available.

    BTW... I never said that running 1066 @ 1333 is a good idea :p
     
    BIGX333, Jul 21, 2009
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  34. Mandrake

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    I agree. Also wondering if the memory chip is flashed with a new SPD we could get better timings at both 1066 and 1333. If that is done will the system still be stable? I'm willing to be a guinea pig if I could find the right program to do it.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  35. BIGX333

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    If you flash it with a lower CL it can become unstable but you can just keep the 800MHZ timings unchanged and if something go wrong just boot at 800mhz and flash again :p
     
    BIGX333, Jul 21, 2009
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  36. Mandrake

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    Have you used anything in the past to flash?
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  37. BIGX333

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    No. TBH I'm not a notebook guy and every motherboard i ever bought had mem settings :p
     
    BIGX333, Jul 21, 2009
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  38. Mandrake

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    Well you gotta do something when you finally buy the M17x. ;)
     
    Mandrake, Jul 21, 2009
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  39. sleey0

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    Wish I could help mandrake but I have never flashed memory before.

    I am very interested in this so I'm gonna keep an eye on this thread!
     
    sleey0, Jul 22, 2009
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  40. The_Moo™

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    nvidia system settings is nice :D


    [​IMG]


    My RAM could be holding me back on my OC'ing any thoughts ?
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 22, 2009
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  41. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    No.

    IMHO the problem with 1066 is that ppl gonna let the M17x choose the divisor and bad divisors = goodbye stability.

    But nothing that a little of math can't solve :p
     
    BIGX333, Jul 22, 2009
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  42. Mandrake

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    The holy grail of divisors! In this system you think it's 4:5? I still have my 1066 memory in.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 22, 2009
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  43. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    well what should i run ?

    :mad:
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 22, 2009
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  44. Mandrake

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    Look what I found hidden in the bios

    [​IMG]
     
    Mandrake, Jul 26, 2009
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  45. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    lol nothing because thats what i see :confused:

    what are your options?

    is it auto set or what?
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 26, 2009
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  46. Quadzilla

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    1:1 clock ratio
     
    Quadzilla, Jul 26, 2009
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  47. Mandrake

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    The sub options shows 1:1, 5:4, 3:2 and Sync Mode
     
    Mandrake, Jul 26, 2009
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  48. Quadzilla

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    Very nice Drake now can you edit the bios and recompile it ? :).
     
    Quadzilla, Jul 26, 2009
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  49. Mandrake

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    This is just looking at the default A00 bios so it's there. I have no idea why we can't see it.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 26, 2009
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  50. Quadzilla

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    Hmm maybe there is a key combo to press in the bios to reveal hidden options . there have been on other desktops in the past.
     
    Quadzilla, Jul 26, 2009
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