Some News for m9750 Owners (8800m GTX and Memory)

yea i dont get it either, just like intel keeps switching the sockets of their cpu's. This makes MXM pointless, they should all have a standard type just like desktops use pci-e

 

that's how they keep squeeze money out of us

 

Hooray capitalism!

 

its not like they dont make money off desktops when they keep the same interface...but i guess they want to sell motherboards so they chnage alot. If they kept the cpu and gpu interface type the same for a while, notebook gaming would skyrocket. Because we all know notebooks date much much faster than desktops, what are they waiting for

 

Well, yeah I'm confused too what is the M9750's current Video card. I have the 7950GTX is it is MXM 1,2,or 3? Im not sure either?

 

m9750 uses 3

 

Its actually a 'Special' version of MXM Type III.

 

so whats the mxm version of the m15x? and if the 9 series is type 4, i guess its not upgradeable

 

I believe that Ice-Tea and I have concluded that its a MXM-IV... since it has the HE tab.

We have seen pics of the slot and the cards for them... which seems to be backwards compatible with MXM-II(III?)... for those that chose 8600M GT.

If you can take out your card, and take a detailed shot of:
- the entire card itself
- and the bottom (that goes into the slot)

That would pretty much confirm the MXM Type.

 

and im assuming the next gen cards will be mxm 5 so no one can upgrade lol

 

The current and new Clevo notebooks with the MXM Type IV are scheduled to support the upcoming 98xxM GTX.

MXM-IV is the newest and latest module format that Nvidia has developed... they will probably not move onto any other format for a while.

 

so that basically means only the m15x and m17x can upgrade to the 98xxm gtx?

 

cant confirm if Quanta really did use MXM-IV or not.... so if they did not..

... then No. There might not be upgrades for M15x or M17x without a motherboard swap.

If you can take a shot of the 8800M GTX module (the whole card & the connectors), then I can confirm for you if its MXM-IV or another 'Special' MXM Type.

 

well that would make buying the m15 or m17x pointless being it will be like any other laptop that has no upgrades in the future, mxm has no point. The only thing its good for i guess is the card can be removed and looked at, whoopee.

thanks for the info Gophn, i will make sure to take screenshots of the notebook when i get it so you can see what it looks like, maybe the slot of the laptop will show u being ill only have an 8700m gt for now.

 

no quanta made machine has ever been upgraded before.

 

Thats what I was thinking... but they did a small number of MXM-II notebooks a while back.

Its a tough call to design a notebook, it seems that Nvidia has been pressuring ODMs to use a modular design for dedicated cards, but in the end the ODM might choose to make their modules somewhat proprietary... which only hurts the consumers in the end for future upgrades.

People may question Clevo, but Clevo has made sure that they design their new notebooks with the future in mind. To date, they are the only ODM to confirm using MXM Type IV... with Nvidia's confirmation as well.

 

theres a bit of a somantics problem with ice teas site

mxm doesnt mean the gpu can be upgraded at all

mxm is just the nvidia designed modular system they sell with the bios on the chip

a quanta made machine can use mxm but be entirely incompatible with what ice tea is trying to sell which is cross machine mxm cards

it needs a different word perhaps

 

See the post I made about a month ago - unfortunately the M9750 will not be getting any more upgrades.

 

Yeah it says that for the 8800m, but not all. I think that the m15x and m17x have to support mxm IV because they offer 8600s, 8700s, and 8800s.

 

I have heard that the 8800 module for the clevo m570ru is technically MXM type but only works in the clevo. So even if it is MXM type there is no gurantee of success.

 

So Gophn, you think the Sager 9262/D901C will be upgradable when the 98xx gtx when it comes out? Or is it jsut speculation at this point since Nvidia can change their minds and essentially make it incompatible when they finally do release the 9 series for notebooks. If the sager 9262 is upgradable then I would eliminate the M17x from one of my choice selections. Can you shed some more ligt on this Gophn, ty, gave you rep

 

I am confident that have Nvidia slight modification (that required a motherbaord swap) when going to the MXM Type IV 8800M modules, the upcoming 98xxM should not require anymore than a BIOS update at most.

Like I said before, judging by the MXM config and power requirements on the upcoming cards, there seems to be no need for any motherboard upgrades.

 

Of course, that was what everyone thought with the m9750 as well, and that obviously did not pan out.

 

I (as well as other MXM enthusiasts) am not "everyone" never really expected the 'Special' MXM in the Arima notebooks to reach 8800M at all.

MXM-IV has the highest power and tech specs for videocard modules to date. It has yet to fully be utilized.

 

Hi!

Having nothing to do last week end , i decided to change some ram sticks

in my m9750 ... here it goes in normal mode ( without OC )



And now with a small Clockgen OC



i think those HyperX (4-4-4-12) did the job...

 

@Ichia - Why are your 3dmark06 scores so low ?

 

yeah you should be in the mid to high 8000's

 

may be because it was not optimized for that bench...it was done

like normal use...i mean with Norton,WiFi and some others prog on...

when I'll have another " nothing to do weekend " I'll cleaned up my XP

and will retry the 3DMark06 with different drivers...

in fact you're right i have got around 7500 with AW drivers without OC

few months ago with XP Pro SP2...

I'll find why and let you know...