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    Thats it i Give up with AW -- 4850's CANCELLED

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Pman, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    If you got your hands on a Mobility Radeon 4850, I would bet money that it would work, no problem. There would be no Crossfire, but me, I would choose one 4850 over two 3870s every time. 800 shaders vs 640, plus no scaling issues.

    Someone needs to ask about buying just a single card.
     
  2. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    well if i was to get a single card id get 280m gtx any day
     
  3. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Type IV :)
    Too late
     
  4. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    I thought clevo did mxm 2.1 gtx 260' at some point?
     
  5. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yup but no SLI port

    also the m17 has a hybrid slot that work with Nvidia ... its werid but stupid 2 ATI cards or 1 Nvidia card
     
  6. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Hmm that sucks :/ although the 3850/70 crossfire i must say is still lethal, prehaps waiting some more time and AW may think of something.
     
  7. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    i did, they have removed the 4850 from thier systems altogether

    they are no where near ready if they ever will come out

    i wont buy AW again, not because of the laptop but thier customer support could be improved if my cat was running the place
     
  8. Marshall1975

    Marshall1975 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello

    As an m17 owner I have to say I was a little miffed when the previous member stated his order for the 4850 had been cancelled. Then obviously reading the comments about them never coming to our laptop. Well after having a chat with the tech support guy at AW europe over in Ireland he had another reason for them not being available yet.

    Basically he said that they are coming without a doubt but simply will not be available as an upgrade until they are made available for new M17 systems as a new build. He was saying all the info about MXM trouble and heat is just purely speculation as they work perfectly. Also a quick check on his system showed they are very much on their stock list and will be available soon. Just thought I would share that info with you all.
     
  9. julian-nold

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    Pls don't blame AW for that, I am quite sure Dell is guilty, I am quite sure they decide this ...

    For me I'll think, the M17 was the last notebook alienware produced, now you can only buy Dell notebooks which look like alienwares... :D

    As soon as I have a M17x I'll remove this oppinion :p

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  10. simonmpoulton

    simonmpoulton Notebook Deity

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    If this is true it still does not excuse all these idiotic excuses that they gave the OP. All this lot makes me glad that I didnt opt to upgrade to an M17 :)
     
  11. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Well it's actually an MXM-II/III but it really doesn't matter for MXM-IV because an MXM-II/III slot can work with MXM-II, III and IV. The Asus W90 has the same setup of having an MXM-II/III connector, though both 4870s are MXM-IV (the 4850s in the GT725 btw are MXM-III, but has no crossfire connector).

    What's preventing an MXM-IV card from fitting into the 2nd GPU slot in the M17/W840 is the fan; it's interfering with where the HE tab would stick out. They could have designed the system better in this regard, but meh.
     
  12. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

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    yes id agree with that, pitty i got m17 even if they said next year and no sooner or no deffo not untill m17x has been out a year at least we would know what the crack was.
     
  13. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    agree 100% if they were open and said we dont actually want to do it as we want to sell more M17x's

    or that we wont make enough money from it blah blah blah

    at least they would get some respect for it
     
  14. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    I don't think I'd recommend that, or even swapping for a 280M. Overclocked 280M is about 10% slower than CF 3870, and it's almost like running WUXGA is free for the 3870 because of the high memory bandwith.

    Your main boost would come from games that CF didn't scale with, notably Crysis.

    LOL, totally missed that was 1000th post. What a lame post to celebrate <.<
     
  15. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    ichime ... whats getting in the way? you can take a nice little dremel and buzz it off
     
  16. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well even if you were to do that you still need the cards and they won't say'oh you used a drill so the cards can fit? that's fine we'll send you them overnight.'
     
  17. julian-nold

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    Hiho I just added your thread to the *offical m17 Thread*, I hope it's ok ;)

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  18. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    thanks you can also add the quad core problems threads to it.
     
  19. julian-nold

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    Ah and project Freez! I'll search for them but may be you are faster than me and my be I need your help^^

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  20. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    project freeze is in my sig and i have to look for the quad core problem thread

    edit here you go
    forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=368282
     
  21. julian-nold

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    Thank you m8 :) I am so tired I even oversaw it :p So close and still so far :D

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  22. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    are you keeping your notebook????
     
  23. julian-nold

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    öhm ... after Mr.Moo has so mutch problems getting rid of his, I don't think I would get enought money to not feel guilty for waisting money^^ 2000€ is more than less money for me^^ (ok my dad payed it but it would be still a waist)

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  24. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    understandable
     
  25. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    well its happening to me :(

    its a waste! just because i was being so stupid :(
    i should of known i need better battery
     
  26. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Well hopefully the M17x has a much longer battery life then the M17 does , with a 400 nit dualbulb display and all the other stuff in that machine i cant imagine the battery life being better at all or maybe worse. You can turn down brightness etc but that thing will still be slurping the battery im sure(even with the 9400m) :).
     
  27. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    2-3 hours

    im good with that
     
  28. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    gaming for the whitebook was 45 and just relaxing was 1h 30min if i did all the brightness dimmed out and stuff
     
  29. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    i hit 2:00 to 2:15 new every thing off and dimmed

    id be happy with 2-3 like i said

    stealth mode makes it run @ 65 w
    or run on intergrated but i unno what that runs at
     
  30. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Worst case scenario you grab another battery if need be .
     
  31. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well my old hp with a 1.5ghz c2d and a 8600m gs 17in 1440*900 got 3h 30mins just doing regualer stuff.
     
  32. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    i want more power then that and i will never purchase HP
     
  33. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    it was just a estimate
     
  34. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    what was its idle pull?
     
  35. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    it's been a while but 3:30 was fully dim and heavy web surfing on wifi and ethernet and listining to music. 9cell battery. gaming was 2:30 i think that i don't remember i don't really game on battery.
     
  36. __-_-_-__

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    I'm gonna sue AW and have my money back.
     
  37. julian-nold

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    For what? Did they prommis you that they will offer you other gpu's in the future?

    If they did (and you can proof it ;) ) than do it and may be they are so afraid of you that they will offer some to all of us :p

    Just as a thought, can the m17 use nvidia 280M in terms of "fitting and support (not the cooling)?

    Greetings
    Julian
     
  38. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    you will not get anywhere in that suit.. and the m17 can use a single 9800 so ill bet it can also use a single 280 but not in sli mode.
     
  39. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    yeh it can use one but cant SLI due to MxM incompatibilty (again)

    but 1 x 280 is slightly slower then cf 3870s from what i have read
     
  40. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    hey mate, did you area manager get any kind of update?
     
  41. zfactor

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    he said he still has not recieved any word officially they were to be cancelled. he sent a message to the upper offices and is waiting for a response from the actual corp offices to know whats going on ill post back when he responds
     
  42. Pman

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    thanks mate ur a star :)

    Pete
     
  43. DHC

    DHC Notebook Evangelist

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    Any word on this Z?

    I'd hate it to sell my M17, order an M17x and then find out that we will be able to upgrade afterall lol :).

    Rather spend the money i will lose with selling the M17 to buy new cards.

    Hope you got some info..
     
  44. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    i will be sure to call him and ask tomm. he was right on about the shipping times being bumpes for the 17x and many other things he has given me info on so id say he is a good source
     
  45. Phinagle

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    Please ask for more info on the ATI cards for M17x....and if Dell will be offering Win7 vouchers. :D
     
  46. DHC

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    Any news yet Z?
     
  47. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    they are offering the vouchers, but i have not seen word on the ATI units.
     
  48. poliuy

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    I'll call today and ask, see if anything is going on.
     
  49. DHC

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    What kinda vouchers? For W7?
     
  50. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    yes.......
     
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