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    The Invasion Is Coming!!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by steveninspokane, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    Those 5870's are supposed to be BEASTS!

    I know you'll be glued to your desktop once you get 'em. lol

    Hopefully the refresh will a have a gpu surprise as well :)
     
  2. PoODiZzlE117

    PoODiZzlE117 Notebook Enthusiast

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    or red on the shirt = ATI 5870's (ATI RED) :)
     
  3. Speedy Gonzalez

    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    5870's for what system please i need an update when they come out and they will work with m17x? :)
     
  4. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    For Alienwares new 12 inch laptop. :p
     
  5. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    We are talking desktops chips.

    Sorry :(
     
  6. Speedy Gonzalez

    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    oooooooooooooh so the next m17x card upgrade will be 4870?????? :)
     
  7. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yeah thats why i put that in my comments because i knew it would be taken the wrong way :) .. i like everyone else would rather have them for the laptops since i spend far more time on my M17 then i do my desktop :) My desktop is my workhorse more or less and desktops are already so powerful there really is not much challange to get games to run well on them since theres so much power avaialable.
     
  8. MICHAELSD01

    MICHAELSD01 Apple/Alienware Master

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    That 12" netbook makes a lot of sense, especially since Dell is missing a netbook that most people can consider usable in their lineup :p. HP is coming out with a 12" netbook with NVIDIA ION graphics for $400, hopefully Alienware can manage to go beyond that, though the 9400M is pretty capable. A dual core ULV processor and a 9600M or comparable/better would be a must buy for me, for under $800. I actually wish I had a desktop and a netbook instead of my MacBook Pro, though I'll wait at least another year until I consider selling it. I would definitely buy a capable Alienware netbook, or even better, a UMPC. The most practical design for an Alienware netbook would be:

    12.1" LED backlit capacitive multi-touch screen (multi touch really makes a difference, especially at this screen size.)

    9400M NVIDIA ION Graphics

    Intel ULV Dual Core CPU

    Starts at $499-$599

    I'd probably buy an Alienware netbook with those specs or better. Changing anything I've listed could really be a dealbreaker for me.
     
  9. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    Man, a 12" netbook from Alienware would pretty much send my Eee PC out of my house immediately.

    It would be perfect to link that to my M17x instead of my Eee PC.

    *crossing fingers for a 12" or a mini desktop"
     
  10. lilyang

    lilyang Notebook Evangelist

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    It is possible for a 12 incher but I don't think AW is going to sell any notebook under 1k, however if they did I would be first in line
     
  11. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    for any one saying its a DX 11 5870

    it aint happening ATI hasn't even done anything with it


    not yet ;)

    :p

    ........
     
  12. Sparky894

    Sparky894 Notebook Evangelist

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    wwhhaaaoooo ... sthu ....

    them r a fightin words ...

    ;)
     
  13. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    lol

    i revised it

    it is coming just not at launch
     
  14. lordqarlyn

    lordqarlyn Global Biz Consultant

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    I would not mind a 12" note/netbook with AW theme. It would compliment my M17x. So long as it had the best features of a netbook, e.g., long battery life and slim formfactor. Sept 24 is only 8 days away lolol
     
  15. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Mini Moo ?
     
  17. Worgen

    Worgen Notebook Guru

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    i want the m15x with core i7 mobile and the 5870 gddr5 gpu lol.
     
  18. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    am I still the only one thinking of the fact the fastest mobile i7 is only 2GHz? ;)

    Anyway, yea, if they released a 12 inch netbook I'd suspect very high performance. If they have one I'd suspect a 9400M ION system plus a 9300M dedicated in Hybrid SLI or better. (Seeming as the Asus N10 already managed to stick a 9300M in a 10 inch netbook) And providing it was affordable I'd probably get one :)
     
  19. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    OC'd, the fastest mobile i7 is over 3GHz :)

    That's like saying the fastest mobile C2 quad is only 2.43GHz...
     
  20. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Plus this is not JUST a proc upgrade. People don't get that.
     
  21. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    That's overclocked which will 1. eat power, and 2. create a LOT of heat looking at the already higher TDPs. ;) I really hope it's got M17x caliber cooling in it if they're plonking an overclockable i7 into it.

    I'm well aware of that but nevertheless, I'll be eager to see what the clock speeds are like.
     
  22. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    You never said anything about heat and power -- just that the fastest was 2GHz.

    I am sure the cooling system will be pretty beefy -- just like the M17x :)
     
  23. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    Right.

    A stock 2GHz i7 may perform better than a stock QX9300 for all we know.
     
  24. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    It's not just you. The comment is just very common regarding the speeds of the mobile i7. I for one want to start playing with a proc with no fsb limits.
     
  25. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    We have become accustomed to equating high clocks with better performance :)

    This may not be as true with the i7's....
     
  26. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    it will be relavant as long as applications are not quad optimized
     
  27. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    It will seeming as it should have 4 cores with hyperthreading. That is of course presuming the program supports it. ;)

    If the desktop i7s are anything to go by, performance should be about 20% higher than a similarly clocked Core 2 Quad. (Presuming themobile i7s are 4 cores) Then there is of course overclocking, but that may not work brilliantly.

    I guess we just have to wait and see. :)
     
  28. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    Don't worry, evil.

    I'll be one of the first to test it! (Hopefully sooner rather than later :D)

    And I fixed my previous post (meant to compare quad to quad :))
     
  29. Bubbamel

    Bubbamel Notebook Evangelist

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    would someone be kind enough to answer this question for me?...If it has not been asked already.

    If the slowest I7 is 1.6ghz... how does it translate if I buy a game optimized for 2.5 ghz, etc? Is it fast enough?.. stong enough, and gosh darnit will people like it?..hehe. Thanks!
     
  30. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Yes, the i7 is fast enough, it is a quad core, and more than likly the game is saying it is optimized for at least 2.5 ghz dual core.
     
  31. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    also, I wasn't aware that i7 had anything less than 2.6 ghz
     
  32. v_c

    v_c Notebook Evangelist

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    One, its a quadcore.
    Two, its a newer architecture, more efficient in terms of clockspeed.
    Three, if all four cores arent being fully utilized, it can turn some off and overclock the rest.

    So even the slowest 1.6GHz one should be plenty fast for games.
     
  33. Darkhan

    Darkhan Notebook Deity

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    in desktop no, but mobile yes.
     
  34. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    oh, I stand corrected on that, but still a 1.6ghz quad core i7 will beat out a 2.5ghz dual core.
     
  35. shavenrat

    shavenrat Notebook Consultant

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    the slowest one:

    Quad Core i7 Mobile i7-720QM - 1,60 GHz (cache 6 Mb, Turbo mode up to 2,80 GHz)

    can overclock himself to 2.80Ghz, turning off eventually not used core (so no problem with one-core optimized programs/games)

    BTW, they should have made also a whole better architecture, so the i7 should work better also with lesser Hz...
     
  36. Bubbamel

    Bubbamel Notebook Evangelist

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    Thank you all for the explanation. Making my decision alot easier. :D
     
  37. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    That's what we're here for. :p
     
  38. shavenrat

    shavenrat Notebook Consultant

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    ops, it was already answered...I was writing in the same time as you guys...
     
  39. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    So this has probably already been answered but I can't find a clear response. If they release a 12 inch it will have a cpu comparable if not better to he qx9300, and the gpu will be on par? And would that be the same for a 15 or 16 inch?

    Just want to get clear facts so i don't jump the gun and buy my m17x :D

    Edit: Oh nvm. Just checked the 'landfall' topic and its going to be a m15x and not a 12 or 16 inch. :)
     
  40. Koshinn

    Koshinn Notebook Deity

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    A single GPU won't beat SLI 260Ms or SLI 280Ms or Xfire 4850s for a few years in laptops, and the bottleneck for games is almost always the gfx cards, not the cpu.

    So the M17x will most likely get better gaming performance than any single-card laptop for a long time.
     
  41. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    Is there any chance the m15x would be SLI then? I have no laptop knowledge at all(thus why im here :p ) so pardon my dumb questions.
     
  42. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    There's a 0% chance of that. It'll have a CPU that's at highest equivelant of the Core 2 Duo P series. As for GPU, I've predicted a 9400M and 9300M GS in GeForceBoost, however it might be a better GPU. Basically, probably graphics on the level of a 9500M-9600M if you're lucky.
     
  43. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    Thanks for clearing that up. I'm such a tech newb :eek:
     
  44. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    There is no net book !
     
  45. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Your just jealous Moo.
     
  46. lordqarlyn

    lordqarlyn Global Biz Consultant

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    hehe, don't worry about asking "dumb" questions most people here are helpful....

    Anyway, At best, the new M15x, if it has Nvidia GPU option with Nvidia integrated graphics, could use Hybrid SLI. I have seen Hybrid SLI provide a small boost on my M17x.
     
  47. a_beast33

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    there is always something coming.

    ps that ad was done by a 2 year old playing on their dads computer the effects are cheap and highly crap.
    what a crap ad......GET A GRIP AND SPEND MORE THEN 2 PENCE ON AN AD !!!
     
  48. sleey0

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    Don't care what the ad looks like....

    Just care about the refresh.
     
  49. Shrouded

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    Sorry a little late on this but everyone is seeing the i7 in the Blue alienhead as well right?
     
  50. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    If you're talking about the eyes then yes.
     
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