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    When are the new Alienwares with Maxwell coming?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Cloudfire, Sep 29, 2014.

  1. Harryboiyeye

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    Chances of Alienware not selling 900M series until after january, 2015?

    Hope they sell the 8GB variants as well.
     
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    I asked HiD Evo on their Facebook if they had any idea of Dell selling 980Ms in their machine, they said everyone is wondering the same thing and none of their insiders have any info.
     
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    There has to be a good reason we are not seeing movement here with Alienware releasing new stuff. I am wondering if maybe we will see something über-wicked after the first of the year that takes us totally by surprise. Wouldn't it be sweet to see something ridiculously amazing and wonderful like a new 18 (or 20) with a 1kW AC adapter, a desktop 5960X CPU factory overclocked to 4.5GHz, no space wasted on an ODD, 6 SATA-3 mSATA 1TB SSDs in RAID0, and 3 x 980M SLI? That would so sweet! They could call it something like the ALX-18 laptop.

    " Wicked has a name. Introducing the all new Alienware ALX-18. Get ready to gut the competition with the worlds first and only 3-way SLI laptop. Domination of the fittest."
     
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    Hmm... change that mSATA to PCI-E or M.2 and have a 3K screen on it and there's your beautiful monster-power.
     
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    Yeah, something like that would be too amazing for words as long as it was done right.

    Does X99 support that many M.2 and PCI-e storage devices? It would be sweet to have 6x1TB SSDs in RAID0. I thought it was a max of two M.2 for Haswell E, one being shared with PCI-e
     
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    According to this, a maximum of 4 M.2's.

    Well here's something not new, but a whatever. No 900m series in very near feature, according to this Black Friday leak.
    Deals aren't that great, by the way.
     
  8. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    I think it meant m.2 PCIe x4 and PCIe x2, not that you can have 4x M.2 SSDs. In the diagram it clearly says 1x M.2, and besides I don't think any of the X99 mobos come with more than one M.2 slot.
     
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    Not natively. I think I saw one or two desktop enthusiast mobos with a third-party second M.2 add on. It's nice, but I'm not overly excited about a faster interface for drive read/write access at this point. With only 1 or 2 available ports it limits its usefulness too much to suit me. I would prefer to have 6x1TB SSD in RAID0 versus 1 or 2 M.2 SSDs. Well, technically I would prefer 6x1TB M.2/PCI-e SSD in RAID0, but there is no such thing as that. Plus, I don't want to pay extra for something new just to have something new for the sake of being new, blah, blah, blah.
     
  10. Player2

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    What comes after tb. Just get one of those in ssd and your good.
     
  11. Mr. Fox

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    Well, I haven't seen a 6TB SSD for sale anywhere... yet.
     
  12. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Yeah no point getting new for the sake of it being new. And definitely do NOT get the Samsung XP941 unless you enjoy seeing 100+C temperatures. Besides, M.2's main strength is in sequential read/write speeds, 4k random read/write speeds doesn't seem to get much of a boost, so for daily use it won't feel much snappier (or at all).
     
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  13. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Do you have inherited some money Mr Fox? :D
     
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    No, but for something better than a P570WM in a laptop, I'm willing to go into debt tomorrow. Check out the new signature. Basically, I would settle for the laptop equivalent of a maxed out Area-51.

    With the mSATA "rack" on a daugtherboard, I think this could be squeezed into the current chassis dimensions. I'd also like to have an edge-to-edge glass display instead of the bezel, but I'm willing to make a reasonable sacrifice and do without that feature if I absolutely have to. While I am wishing, Cosmic Black, Nebula Red or Cobalt Blue anodized finish would also be nice to have. Silver isn't ugly, but it really bores me. I'd also like to have the current "soft-touch" palmrest replaced by a black anodized slab of billet aluminum.
     
  15. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    I think you forgot "120Hz" after the 3K IPS part ;)
     
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    Have you had the opportunity to buy this one: Alienware ALX-18 - Core i7-5960X | Unlocked Dual BIOS | 3xGTX 980M SLI | 64GB DDR4-4266 Quad Channel | 6x1TB mSATA RAID0 | 3K IPS | 1kW AC Adapter, would certainly the price been + $ 11,000 :D
     
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    Yes... in fact, a 3K 120Hz TN would be totally acceptable.

    I think they could sell it for about the same as the maxed out Area-51 and still make a decent profit. For $11,000 I could build my own insane desktop with 4x980 SLI, upgrade the 18, M18xR2 and M18xR1 to 980M SLI and have enough left over for a nice steak dinner to celebrate the unexpected but totally excellent surge in my utility bill.

    They could easily fit 6 mSATA on a two-sided daughterboard replacing the optical drive and use the space the existing HDD caddy occupies for something more useful... like a dual eSATAp/USB 2.0 legacy combo port that allows for blind flash crisis recovery. I would trade that for Thunderbolt in a heartbeat. No blind flash capability really sucks.
     
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  18. Papusan

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    Remember in Norway so had 6 pieces 1TB Samsung 850 Pro cost about $ 4700 and i7-5960x approximately $ 1,500. What the rest had cost, I dare not think of. :D
     
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    You have to come over here for vacation and take it home. :D
     
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    Vacation and purchase of ssd drives had become just as expensive.:cry:
     
  21. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Hell for $11,000+ you could easily build a 5960X rig with 3x GM200 (Titan X/980 Ti), 32 GB of DDR4 3333 (no 8GB sticks at that speed available right now :/), 4x 1TB 850 Pro, an ROG Swift 1440p 144Hz monitor, and still have enough left to install a custom loop.
     
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    Apparently not in Norway.
     
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    If it's in Norway better off going with a quad r290x and bathe in the heat :laugh:
     
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    I think I may have a plan

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  25. GTO_PAO11

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    CLoudfire, Eurocom is testing the AW 18 with 980m today, yeah?
     
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    That is a correct PAO. Fingers crossed they get it to work on first try. :thumbsup:
     
  27. Harryboiyeye

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    Just got off the online chat with a dell rep. About 980M Systems.

    He said approximately a month.

    So now I am trying to haggle a base system with 880M SLi for £2k. My argument is that it's old tech and I'll buy it if they lower it. Best price I have gotten so far is £2210.

    CPU question though, how much FPS difference is there between the 4700MQ and 4930MX? (Both systems have 880M SLi.)
     
  28. Peter

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    Dell rep. got no idea about it, they said to be a week ago that 900 series will online within next week. I dont know why you wann go with 880M SLI as 880M is unstable card as many ppl complained about it. If you badly want Alienware with previous generation graphics card then go with 780M SLI, even you can upgrade your M18x with Dual 780M SLI. You wont even notice any difference between 4700MQ and 4930MX in gaming.

    Well guys any update on 980M SLI working in our AW 18 systems? I think i got to try them on tomorrow :)
     
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    My M18x has more or less died. Both GPUs dead, CD/DVD Drive doesn't work and I am getting artefacts while using Autodesk Maya on the IGP. Think it's time for a refresh lol.

    If there is no difference, why do people have the highest end processors available? Is it just for benchmarks?
     
  30. GTO_PAO11

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    MATE!!!

    Eurocom is testing the AW 18 with 980M SLI at the moment per Cloudfire.

    I've been praying for your stuff to work. :D
     
  31. Peter

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    Ahhh lets take my system example, it had 3740QM and upgraded to 3940XM, while playing game there is not any FPS advantage. Extreme processor is useful for video editing, benchmarkin and got unlocked multipliers. If you can wait then Dual 980M SLI will be great performance gain over previous graphics cards. Dell still sellin old generation at premium price.

    Ahh im excited for tomorrow :) I'll have two 980M but no idea it will work or no.
     
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    I will cheer for you. It will work. :cool:
     
  33. Harryboiyeye

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    Been without a gaming PC for about a month now, so painful lol.

    Also Peter, thanks for having a sig. I've made note of your Samsung M9T for when I eventually do order. Looking to have an mSata Samsung 840 EVO 1TB, SATA Samsung 840 EVO 1TB SSD, x2 2TB Samsung M9Ts (I'll take the optical drive out). Nice total of 6TB of internal storage.
     
  34. Peter

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    I hope so, There are few tweaks that i know but i got no idea about vbios tweaks.
     
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    Keep us updated man. So many people ready to upgrade to the new Maxwell GPUs. Fingers crossed for you mate :)

    Early december? List them then or start shipping them? Because AW are painfully slow at building systems so if they start selling them around 7th December we may not get them until 2015.
    But it would be a nice christmas present if they manage to deliver them before Xmas :)
     
  36. Peter

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    lol i can understand your pain but remember after purchasing new system from Dell now. If after 14 days Dell come up with 900 series card then that pain may be extensive. Indeed Samsung M9T is smashin HDD as 1TB version of Samsung. Actually im lookin forward to Samsung 840 EVO 1TB mSATA, hopefully before Xmas. I think i can push it to 10TB :)
     
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    Indeed, it recently occurred to me my storage needs have grown a lot in the past year. I really didn't care about storage until I started downloading a ton of movies and videos. Now I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited to have a ton of storage inside a laptop.

    Oh and thanks for the info on the CPUs.
     
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    This is painful. That time of the year has come where the most anticipated triple A title games release. And My laptop cannot handle it.
    Dammit, this bad luck I have. The lack of 14-15 inch laptops with 900M series is painful.

    I can't wait anymore.
     
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    I gone through some post that 980M work on Aw 17 without any issue, Eurocom posted video on it also. As per argument Clevo 980M works on AW system with Optimus(Honestly i hate it). Is there any way to modify 980m vbios, hence it can work on two different core clock state. Im not sure but graphics card on Aw17 system only operates in maximum core clock.
     
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    Will this waiting time pay off?

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  41. J.Dre

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    If you have a 2013 model, no, I don't think it will be worth the wait. Upgrading your GPU is going to be your best option for added performance as opposed to purchasing an entirely new laptop with soldered components. For new people looking for an Alienware, waiting may be worth the wait because you will have a better performing machine. However, you can also purchase an older system for less money and upgrade it to have the same performance. It will differ case to case, person to person.
     
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    They may not even refresh the AW18 so upgrading could be our only option
     
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    I currently have an Alienware M17xR3 with 6990m card and the lowest cpu option that model offered.

    I dont know if I should just update the graphics card or buy a completely new computer.

    To avoid the soldered components, should I try to get an AW 17 with the 780 on Amazon or Ebay?


    I have no clue what to do. I have waited almost 8 months to upgrade. I was hoping for an AW 14 refresh but now it has been replaced with the pathetic AW 13. UGH!

    fyi my M17xR3 has been outstanding. Still going strong and playing everything I have to throw at it.
     
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    I'd just upgrade it. I know the 780M works in the M17x R3, so there's a small chance the 970M/980M will also.

    Upgrade your CPU, too. The 2960XM is the best choice.
     
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    Unless you are adventurous, until alienware Vbios files hit the net (or cards) then it seems to be risky at the moment.
     
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    It isnt risky to upgrade to a 780 though? I have never upgraded a laptop but I feel I can watch videos and follow instructions :)
     
  47. J.Dre

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    It won't be a straight forward upgrade because you have AMD. It will be a bit more extensive. There are videos online (AMD to NVIDIA) upgrade. You can watch those. You will need thermal pads, IC Diamond, an x-bracket, and maybe even a new heat sink. It will be worth it, though. That 6990M is nothing in comparison, performance wise.
     
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    The 780M is tried and tested, so long as you are careful and read through the details it's not uncharted waters. I would wait if you can though since a 970/980m will offer a large boost.
     
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    Nah, simple bolt-in upgrades are a piece of cake unless you have never torn apart a laptop before. INF modding is super easy as well.
     
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    The 2960XM and 970M would be a very nice combo at a reasonable price. The 970M performs about 20% better than the 780M.

    You're looking at a 100% performance upgrade there.
     
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