When are the new Alienwares with Maxwell coming?

Isn't it sad that we are talking about upgrading a laptop over 3 years old as a better option than looking forward to the "new" Alienwares?

So sad.

 

Can't single out Alienware on that. A three year old Alienware is better than anything new with low-TDP BGA feces welded to the mobo. To be more accurate, what we have seen coming from most of Alienware's competitors is extremely sad if all we have to look forward to is more of the same crap with an Alienware logo plastered on it.

There could still be a pleasant upset or even severe disruption coming from Alienware in 17" and 18" SLI monsters coming that we don't know anything about. I'm sure there are some things that don't get leaked until they are good and ready to let them be. Expecting to see anything truly amazing in a console replacement or 13" Ultrabook is unrealistic. They serve a valid purpose, but not an amazing one.

 

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OK so pictures of what I think is the next lineup from Alienware was just posted.
M18X R4 according to the guy who post it, and that is indeed a new Alienware 18 if my counting is right.
Upcoming notebooks looks like are AW13, AW17 and AW18.

Damn now I'm not sure what to do. Upgrade or not

 

Nice. So AW 18 with 980M confirmed?

 

And I was just about to pull the trigger on that sweet 4K curved TV!

Looks like maybe my Unix guru friends might have worked their spell. The stick with feathers and bag of chicken bones were fine but I drew the line at the goat sacrifice

 

It must mean we are close right?
Also it doesn't look they changed the looks of any of those notebooks at all.

I assume R4 means 980M yes PAO. Wouldn't be a new number there if nothing have changed with the hardware. Give us the Dell vbios and 980M

4K TVs have to wait Micky lol. Damn that must suck
Notebook is atleast my priority right now.
Question is whether they done any changes that makes it worth to buy through them instead of upgrading current Alienware's.
If they comes with soldered CPUs which I think they do, the GPUs they sell are overpriced, wouldn't it be better to buy "old" Alienware's that are new and just upgrade the GPU for cheaper price??

 

Normally when Dell sell those new units with new cards, do they release the new bios immediately?

 

It's not an R4. It's an R2. The AW 18 R2.

I knew they wouldn't get rid of it and basically hand that market to MSI. You all lost faith in Alienware so early. Now we have to wait and see if they really put HQ processors in them. Oh man, I hope not... That is wrong, just wrong. Alienware 17's and 18's are not Ultrabooks.

 

They won't release the new vbios at all. We need to wait for some kind gentleman to buy the notebook with 980M, receive it and extract the vbios and then post it to us here

Well AW18 R2, M18x R4. They are the same although I wish people used the new AW18 more

Now all remains is Porras giving us icing on the cake saying they will start selling them next week

 

From an alienware 17 owner wanting to upgrade my gpu to 980m I hope the chassis is the same as the 2013 17 and they upgraded the heatsinks. Then I could by the new 980m card with the new upgraded heatsink for my 17. Then I really would be a happy camper.

 

980M is rumored to run cooler, so heat sink upgrade may not be needed.

 

Sorry I miss wrote my post. By upgrade heatsink I ment for the cpu. one could always use better cooling for cpu. Even know mine does ok now but if I ever decide to overclock or push it it would be nice.
I know I'm day dreaming but it's the only thing that keeps me sain.

 

Yeah, guess I'm kinda enthused again that something I want will arrive. That monthly statement with my 'burn' money is getting old .

Even if it's a dead end it should be fun for a couple of years .

 

Remember how the 18 was called "M18x R3" in some regions. Well, yeah, this is an R4.
Someone want to give it a codename? Ranger, Viking, and Caldera are out, so... Hanger, in tribute to the old desktop? Gargantuan?
Dang, that 17 barely looks taller (longer?) than the 13.
However, we don't know if the CPUs are LGA or BGA. Most certainly the GPUs are MXM if the chassis are the same.

 

Aside from 980Ms, I hope there is a 1080P screen for the Alienware 18. I don't really want anything higher too be honest.

 

1080p isn't going anywhere. It's still a great resolution for gaming. But now these systems can support 3k and 4k gaming. So, there will probably just be some additional upgrade options on the website, similarly to how the Alienware 13 configurations are setup (minus the 768p screen).

 

Some new pictures of M18x R4 although I'm not sure its any new. I would say the keyboard LEDs are brighter because that's a pretty lit room and the keyboard are still bright. I could barely see the lights on my AW18 during the day

 

Cloudfire bro, did Eurocom gave you an update today?

 

I didn't expect the exterior to change again so soon. They didn't change it from the M18x R1 to R2.

My hope is that they adjusted the internals, adding better fans and heat sinks, as well as more ports for storage and additional I/O support.

 

I will be the contrarian again... that looks like an AW 14 on top of a 17. the thickness is almost identical, I have a hard time believing that is a 13 as thick as it is.

 

Someone needs to right click on the desktop of those laptops and check out the resolutions. Or get onto Nvidia control Panel. That'll be the ultimate proof I need.
Docsteel, you are correct. That is a 14. The 14 is still selling in China (well, Hong Kong), so this could just be a regular display thing.

 

I agree... 1080p is ideal on a small 18" screen. 1440p is OK. Anything more than 1440p on a laptop screen starts becoming disappointing. Going 3K or 4K on a 17" or 18" screen is, at best, unpleasant and text is challenging to read. With screens below 17" it is borderline unusable at 100-125% scaling. Using 100% scaling is ideal because that is what the OS UI is optimized for, 125% is OK, but not great. Above 125% scaling, text in dialogue boxes gets truncated to where you cannot read everything, text on menus is often truncated with ellipses and things just do not fit right anywhere else on the screen.

Under taxing gaming conditions, (BF4, Crysis 3, Metro, etc. on max settings,) I expect even 980M SLI on 3K or 4K is going to have a lower framerate than what many find gamers find acceptable. Being "playable" at 30-40 FPS is a marginal experience, although some people with weak "gaming" systems have grown accustom to it and sometimes feel that 34-40 FPS is a "good enough" experience. The caliber of enthusiast or gamer that goes all-out on an SLI beast with flagship GPUs probably won't be very happy with that kind of low framerate. It creates an impression of weakness even though it may technically be a demonstration of strength at ridiculously high resolutions. The higher resolutions are best suited to workstations where CAD, content creation or business productivity applications benefit from vast expanses of screen real estate. Even there, multiple 1080p or 1440p displays can sometimes prove to be more useful and much more affordable.

 

Heh I used to be firmly in the "30 FPS is good enough" camp, mainly because my crappy Toshiba could barely push 30 frames on Ultra even at 720p. And before my Toshiba I was rocking a Presario v2000z with a single core AMD CPU all the way into 2011 May LOL.

But now even 60 FPS is starting to not cut it. I think for me somewhere between 90 and 100 FPS is where I can't tell the difference anymore. I think when GM200 gets release 2 of those in SLI should be enough to drive 90-100 frames at 1440p, and if that's the case I may consider grabbing an ROG Swift. (though I still balk at the idea of a TN panel costing more than a GM200 card)

 

I'd personally prefer a 120hz 1080p than a 1440p 60hz if those where the options. I agree, anything past 1440p on a 18" is kind of a waste. Viewing pictures and 4k movies would be nice, but games will run like crud and native scaling would make things way too small.
My mate is getting one of those 5k iMacs despite my disapproval. Not too sure what's he's going to be able to do with all those pixels and a sad soldered 4gb AMD card at the helm.

 

It's a funny thing how the brain works. Play a game at 30 fps for about 10 hours and 30fps starts to look just as smooth as 60 at least to me.

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He may not even notice or care if he's not gaming. Besides Macs can't really do much besides "creative productivity work" anyway without overheating lol

 

No one get a mac for gaming. Also go try and tell a university engineering department that mac's are useless...

The 5k screen on the new imac's are absolutely bonkers. Especially considering the only other 5k display I have seen announced so far is by Dell, and its $2,500 without being an all in one.

 

I think that's your problem right there. People have literally fallen over dead doing this.

 

No one dies after a ten hour gaming session. The only time you ever hear about someone dying during an extreme length session is when they have been going at it for at least 24+ straight hours.

 

12 hours is closer to 10 than it is to 24...

Xbox addict, 20, killed by blood clot after 12-hour gaming sessions | Daily Mail Online

 

I spent an entire summer doing 8 hour Counter Strike 1.6 and TFC sessions because I was way too addicted. 8 hours because 9-5 parents heh. Took a 20 minute lunch break and went to the loo as needed and that was about it.

 

The difference is, the people who died literally sat in one place for an entire day without moving a muscle except the ones in their hands. Probably didn't even bother to pee in a bottle.

 

Yeah its not just the Engineering depts that think they are gods gift to the world. My Uni had a Media studies wing that ate them up too. I even had a 1440p 2010 model for music production when I switched over to Logic. Then I found myself bootcamping 90% of the time using my older Win7 apps since I simply knew my way around better and id get things done.
Ill certainly say, the displays are beautiful and UI scaling is magic . But severly handicapped not having enough GPU horsepower to power them.

 

Are the new Alienwares gonna have an option to have them with Windows 7 or will be forced to use whatever the latest Microshaft OS they are having? That would be a deciding factor for me as I refuse to use anything but Windows 7 but don't want it customly installed by some online store, I want it to be officially from DELL

 

Well that would certainly cause problems yes. The longest continuous session I've had recently was 6 hours; could've held out longer if not for the urge to pee.

 

Should have Windows 7 Pro x64 available as an option until they are told they cannot do it any more, which is perfect. I've never cared for Home Premium due to missing features (primarily useful configuration utilities) and lower RAM capacity limits. I also never use any of the extra fluff features I have available in Ultimate. The MicroNazis no longer allow OEMs to sell a new system with Home Premium or Ultimate starting October 31. That may vary by country, so it may be a different drop-dead date where you are. It will not be available on all system, thoughs. Consumers are expected to use the crappy new OSes and I suspect that most, if not all, XPS and Inspiron systems may not be given the option of sticking with Windows 7. Gamers should be able to ride piggy-back on the Pro licensing with Alienware since they know that many of us don't like Windows 8, but the intent is that Windows 7 Pro will be mainly for business use.

 

Windows 7 has only one usable edition to *me*

Professional

- No limits on hardware (RAM, CPU, ETC)
- No bloatware (ie. Bitlocker, language MUIs)
- Sounds cool

If they release it with options for Windows 7, that is another plus which will help in their sales as they will be one of few if any who have a new laptop in 2015 with Windows 7.

I cannot use Windows 8 even if you paid me to do so. Windows 10 looks no better from what I've read and seen although after the bad damage that 8 did, I was not one bit interested in trying Windows 10 when I read the control panel options are still split, and the start menu looks like a small kid designed and insisted on including his lovely cartoony tiles! Misco$haft! Please!

 

Well, I think Windows 10 looks better, but I'm not impressed with it as a product. It doesn't perform any better than Windows 8 and lackluster performance is one of my harshest criticisms of Windows 8. Mess with my CPU performance and there's gonna be hell to pay, LOL. And, Windows 8 absolutely sucks in CPU performance. At least with Windows 10 you can disable the stupid Start screen/Modern UI garbage. The native Start Menu works OK, but put those butt-ugly tiles on the right side of the menu instead of text links and there is no way I can identify to change the tiles to links. Hopefully, a third-party utility like StartIsBack or Start8, or Classic Shell will be able to fix that. I would also like to remove all traces of those bloatware smartphone-ish Modern Apps and I can find no way to do that.

 

From my experience with Start Menu Alternative apps, my take on it is, mess with the core of the OS UI, and you're only asking for trouble, won't appear immediately, but you will have issues in the future, that's why I have accustomed myself to the fugly UI of Windows 8 but my main issue with it is not the UI, its the performance and 20 other things that I won't bore you with. If Windows 10 is not gonna be the way I want to use out of the box, then I'd rather stick to any laptop which has the ability of running Windows 7 with proper driver support. Just my 2 cents worth

 

Me too, but if I have to use it, I'm going to redo it my way instead of accepting garbage they way they want me to have it. If having it my way causes increased vulnerabilities or something else, I'll have to just suck it up and assume the risk to have it my way. But, sticking with Windows 7 is definitely the smarter option.

 

Your link contradicts you, read more than the title next time. He didn't die during his gaming session or even soon after. He died of a blood clot that took a VERY long time of repeated lengthy sedentary activity to form.

When people die during long term gaming sessions is literally always after 24+ hours and with exhaustion/dehydration as the main factor.

 

Not enough GPU horsepower for what exactly? Imac's are not meant to be gaming machines in the slightest, and their GPU's along with the other hardware in them is typically able to handle CAD and other design programs at ease even at their display's high resolutions. If you are wanting to render a borderline Pixar movie the Mac Pro is perfectly capable in that department.

 

If a person dies during and/or a direct result of an extended gaming session due to something like excessive dehydration and extreme exhaustion that is scientifically identified as being killed by a severe case of e. stupidis maximus.

Anyone that is that far out of control had some pretty severe personal problems and something else likely would have killed them, if not gaming. That's just nuts.

 

Oh certainly. Let me put it this way. If it was even slightly common for people to die after spending 6-12 hours in a chair and staring at a screen... corporate America would go extinct overnight. The human body is not that weak.

 

Look, I don't totally disagree. But from a general computing standpoint it's a crying shame that the GPU's inside can't come close to rendering a game should one so wish to do that. Plenty of people game on iMacs still whether it's in MacOS or bootcamp.
I don't see why I should cut it any slack not doing well as a all rounder multipurpose machine because it's a apple product and that somehow infers only designers use it for designing.

 

Lol at the direction this thread has gone.

@Cloud: Anymore leaks on those Chinese sites?

 

On the win 7 issue I believe MS have already pulled the plug on cheap OEM European licenses. Win 7 has been gone for over a month now. You would be asked full retail cost for dell to be able to offer it. Probably too much hassle. They don't get any money back for not using win 8 as they pay by the processor irrespective of what OS they put on it. That way MS can offer OEM's single machine, low cost, licenses...

 

Macs are laughable. Almost all engineering software we use is for windows, and on top of that, none of the macbook laptops are capable of rending because they dont even have a dGPU anymore, except for the 2500$ model that comes with a nvidia gt 750M which is total garbage for professional rendering. That iMac 5K is a good computer in its own right just for its 5K display, but thats where the awesomeness of mac stops (excluding PCIe SSD storage).

 

Nothing more yet

AlienwareUK started doing promotions for AW17 and AW18 though. But for the wrong reasons

https://www.facebook.com/AlienwareUK

 

What about Eurocom's status for the AW18 980m? Any progress on that?