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    When are the new Alienwares with Maxwell coming?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Cloudfire, Sep 29, 2014.

  1. J.Dre

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    Maxwell doesn't support 3D. I doubt Alienware will have a 120Hz screen.
     
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    They may still have a 120hz screen, just no 3d.

    I see a big trend in desktop monitors being 120-144hz

    We will know for sure if there will ever be a 120hz option once we can get under that keyboard and see where the lcd plugs in... if there are 2 plugs like on the last 3 17s then 120hz could be possible.
     
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    I will, go with a 4K screen. I have to admit. 4K looks amazing that sharpness with the combination of an IPS panel is beautiful.
    I play diablo 3 a lot, and I have a few old games I still love to play, and I will be able to enjoy them on 4K which is amazing.
    For now indeed 4K ultra is not even close to possible with a 980M, running on 1080P on the 4K screen shouldn't be a problem. since the screen is rather small (15 inch) and the pixels are INCREDIBLY small so scaling from 4K to 1080p shouldn't be a problem at all. By the way, also not fan of a matte screen, so don't want to pick the 1080p one.

    Also 4K has so many pixels which increases the contrast ratio of the monitor too.
    And I will probably end up buying a graphics amplifier when the next lineup of nvidia desktop graphics cards release. and then I might be able to run games medium settings on 4K.
    since anti aliasing is out of the question on a 4K 15 inch display, you also win a little performance from there.

    So in the conclusion, the alienware 15 is a darn impressive laptop for me
     
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    Ahhhhhh i just cant wait i really need a gaming laptop i have been waiting for alienware since past 5 months to launch their newer flagship and now i seems to have to wait little longer for the official confirmation.once its 100% confirmed that 120hz wont happen or is not possible i will pull my trigger or els i am ready to wait a month or so just for the 120hz display option.
     
  5. CSHawkeye81

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    Just about to order mine, guess will have to sell my Fully loaded Alienware 17 with 3d on the forums.
     
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    What the heck is happening the new alienware 17 seems to have only 2 display options one is 1080p and 1080p touch ??????This is driving me more crazy i thought 4k was also an option here ???Am i missing something????Not only that the 980m seems to have only 4gb of Vram instead of 8gb????

    Alienware 17 Notebook | Dell
     
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    Yeah... I am going to have to find a way to score one of these to replace my aging M14x-R2...
     
  8. ejohnson

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    Few reasons.
    The 980m thats in there is a soldered version of the mxm, so they have to cut the ram in half.
    The lack of a 4k lcd is due to no one makes a 17.3 inch 4k lcd right now.
    Plenty of places make the 15.6 4k, but not 17.3 :(
     
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    I sure hope they don't drop to a plastic shell on the AW 15 the way they did on the AW 13. I don't mind it on a system with the aim of lightness and portability, but the 15/17 both better maintain the mag lid or I will be pissed :mad2:
     
  10. J.Dre

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    I'm going to wait until there are some good reviews on YouTube before pulling the trigger, but the AW 15 looks like a system for me. I want to purchase the AW 17 R2 just to do a "side-by-side" comparison with my current AW 17 R1, but I need something smaller for class.

    The 1080p and 980M combination should last for years. The 980M is like a GTX 780 desktop card. But, I'm still upset that everything is soldered. :mad:
     
  11. ejohnson

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    From what I was reading, the bottom half is actually a carbon fiber. Not sure what the source was, but it was one of the news outlets posted in this thread.
     
  12. kamlesh

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    well in that case i feel the MSI GT72 Dominator Pro is probably the most powerful gaming laptop with 8gb of 980m dont you think?
     
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    Lol can't even get 32GB of RAM.
     
  14. J.Dre

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    There has been talk of 16GB SODIMMS coming available this year (aftermarket).

    I will never buy Dell RAM again. It's so cheap. The only upgrades worth anything: warranty, screen, GPU, and CPU (if available).
     
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    You only have 16gb in your area 51 with triple 980s... what do you need 32 in a laptop for?
     
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    DDR4 prices are horrendous. It's $500 for just 3000Mhz of the stuff. I'm waiting.

    As for what I need it for, I will let you guess. I'm currently using a Technet version of Windows 8.1 Pro. Hyper-V has never been better. Windows 7 requires an annoying update to get it running. :D

    I never had an issue with it. Have you ever used Thaiphoon Burner? It was all the rage back in the M18x R1 days.
     
  17. ejohnson

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    holy jebus thats expensive ram....
     
  18. J.Dre

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    Their RAM is fine. I've been using it for a while. It's just not worth the extra $150 for another 8GB's. You can purchase 1866MHz or 2133MHz Kingston Impact memory for the same price (or a bit more).
     
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    Perhaps, but it is an MSI... just not, interested :)
     
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    I've found that their RAM overclocks just fine. If lucky, Samsung modules will take you places. Hyundai did 1900Mhz+ from 1600 with tighter timings than 11-11-11-xx. I've never used DDR3L though. And not sure if they ship Hynix.

    That's for 16GB...


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    Just noticed this, so sad


    YT Comments


    " i feel cheated. I bought an asus laptop with a 980m and i could buy a cheaper alienware (my dream computer) for 200 dollars less with just a bit less ram. Damn alienware, you need to pop these products out like there's a christmas sale and you need a huge stock. Maybe next year i'll buy one. Are they upgradeable? If so i might just sell my asus laptop and buy it with a small loss of money."

    "Is there an option to have two graphics cards in this laptop?
    "

    RIP 18

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDmTakhm3RU "17 is Flagship model"
     
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    That is the more-is-sexy-routine unless you are running VM's or some such.

    Outside of running VM's myself I have never in gaming use come close to needing more than say 12 GB of RAM with a lot going on.
     
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    Not sure, but isn't the 980m with 8gb on the P35X v3 soldered as well?
     
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    You could put in a 980M and keep the 120Hz, that would be good, unless you want the GA.
     
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    Why in the heck is Alienware 7 pounds? It certainly does not feel lighter. I was hoping it would be around 5-6 pounds...but 7 pounds?! This makes clevo's laptop look better.

    On the other hand...look at that battery size! Oh yeah! I bet we can squeeze good battery life out of these things. Very hard decision for me to make, I was hoping that it would be lighter (NOT heavier). I just hope those are errors.
     
  25. J.Dre

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    4GB's of GDDR5 memory is plenty. There are very few games that utilize 4GB's and might do a little better with more.

    8GB cards are not soldered. They are standard MXM.
     
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    I personally prefer at least 16gb of RAM. I might get more if possible. For just gaming, I am not sure you'll need more than 8gb, however, aside VMs, if you are: (i) running code and need to have a lot of data/structures in memory, and (ii) handle big files, like I do, more than 8gb can be useful. For all these, you may also need a powerful CPU.
     
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    Thanks - I assumed since the P35X v3 is thin the 980m would be soldered. COD Advanced Warfare I heard may need more than 4gb of GDDR5 - I'd like to try that.
     
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    :chatterbox:No optical drives as well in any models including alienware 17 :eek:
     
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    Not even close mate, you're forgetting about the new Clevo models which have extreme and desktop processors along with an 8gb 980M. That and a lot more customization options, so the crown goes to Clevo this year no contest.

    Clevo P750ZM

    Clevo P770ZM
     
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    Regardless of TDP, I predict you will see mediocre performance from this GPU... probably can expect scores around 5000 in Fire Strike and maybe P8000 in 3DMark 11. Not quite, but pretty close to one half the performance of 980M. Likely close in comparison to 6990M CF or 580M/675M SLI.
     
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    Hey guys, on the website of the alienware 15 it states about the audio output:
    (1x) Audio Out 1/8" Ports (Compatible with inline mic headset)
    (1x) Line In Microphone 1/8" Port (retaskable for 5.1 analog audio output)

    I don't understand, How can you get 5.1 analog audio out of 2 jacks? I have an alienware m14x. I have 2 audio jacks and one 1 for mic. In order to get 5.1 audio, I have to reset the mic port to sub/center channel, so that I can get 5.1 analog audio using all three 3.5mm jacks.

    How is it possible on the alienware 15 with only 2 audiojacks? Did they mean digital output instead of analog? like spid/f combo port?
    I'm confused. and I do have a 5.1 setup that I can connect through either three 3,5mm jacks or one spid/f optical port. So how is it actually on the alienware 15?
    On alienware support the guy didn't know nothing about it and couldn't help me further as expected.
     
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    Yes, programming environments is another exception along the lines of running VM's. You have to be done some serious work to eat up 16 GB with that much data, what do you do if you don't mind my asking? Most people even today for gaming get by just fine with 8 GB, though I too prefer 16GB.
     
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    Well they finally arrive. I'm going to pull the trigger on a 17 since I've been waiting far too long already. If it feels cheap or the display is way worse than my 120hz then they can have it back.

    When I first saw the US page I noticed, 'a Full HD 1920x1200 display and the NVIDIA® GTX® 980M GPU.' in the description of the second build, but no it's just the same 1920x1080 :(

    I'll go for the truelife, not for touch, but I don't like what matte screens do to gaming contrast. Hope they land on the UK site soon....
     
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    For someone that loves upgrading their laptop, I think the R2 is a bad match. You'll have to let us know what you think of it.
     
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    I'm sold for now on True Life, if color saturation and range matter, its just the way to go imho.
     
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    You're right but since the choice is going away industry wide I'll settle for the (empty) GA to get my tweaking fix further down the road. It's not like I need mobility, it's just a nice-to-have (and old-faithful is not going away!).

    I sure will be posting, hopefully the UK will follow quickly and not continue to fob-off old stock...
     
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    I'm just curious to know why you are so confident the new AW 15 with a 970m or a 980m will have a superior cooling to that of the P650SE. Based on what I've heard from the P650SE users here, at least for the 970m version, the laptop never heats up. Even though AW 15 is going to be slightly thicker than the P650SE and will be of better build quality, I'd have to wait for user experiences to figure out if the cooling is better.
     
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  39. MickyD1234

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    Seems they were not sure what displays they were going to release - making me nervous...

    'The Alienware 17 is available with Full HD display, or you can choose Full HD display with a touch screen option. Get up to 2560X1440 pixel density for astonishing color clarity, and extra wide viewing angles' :confused: :confused:.
     
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    Am pursuing my doctorate in computer science - I do research in machine learning. I may have to deal with big data sets. Not saying I read data large enough to fill up 16gb memory everyday, but in my line of work, I have to be prepared for anything: memory-hogging code, big data, etc.
     
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    R9 285:
    1792 shaders
    190W TDP
    10 000 in 3DM11

    R9 M295X:
    ???

    GTX 970:
    1664 cores
    140W TDP
    16000 in 3DM11

    GTX 980M:
    1536 cores
    <100W TDP
    13000 in 3DM11

    GTX 980M should run much cooler and be much faster. AMD will need to downclock the shaders a lot and it wouldnt surprise me that M295X perhaps have less shaders than R9 285.
    I would estimate around 8000-9000 perhaps in 3DM11. It depends a bit on how badly AMD want to squeeze out performance from that horrible inefficient architecture. I think we will see one hot GPU unless they changed something on the GPU (doubt it)
     
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    Getting a doctorate no doubt; I am but a lowly BS CS grad myself (doctorates were almost unheard of when I went to school in CS) :p
     
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    I'm having an internal debate for similar reasons which is giving the Asus G751 with 32GB of ram a plus in its column. Decisions.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
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    Am perplexed. US Alienware shows only the two 1080 screens, but every CES review of the 17 states 4k will be available.

    Is this likely to be a delayed release or just wrong info at CES to generate buzz?
     
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    Looks like they are trying hard to discourage me purchasing:


    Your Alienware comes with a 1 year Limited Hardware Warranty
    Alienware comes standard with a 1-year Limited Hardware Warranty with mail-in repair service after remote diagnosis and shipping included.

    I can't see paying the extra above one year is a good decision even if it does include in-home. Probably have to fight for it as it becomes less used :mad:
     
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    4k gaming is available, only via the GA and an external monitor. Word games I think...
     
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    Yeah I noticed they all have basic warranty now. Thats' how they are able to sell them at a decent price. I hated when they forced on us the Premium support (which I always had removed after purchase for usually $100 back)
     
  48. ejohnson

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    My guess is they took out in home repair because most of the techs are not qualified to replace motherboards.
     
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    I see a 15.6 inch "UHD (3840 x 2160) IPS-Panel TrueLife 350-nits Display with Touch Technology" - under AW 15. Of course, AW 17 doesn't come with a 4k display.
     
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    Yeh more reading around suggests word games.
     
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