When are the new Alienwares with Maxwell coming?

I remember the first 'mobile' phone I ever saw. It looked like a briefcase with a handset attached to it and at the time I thought to myself '... that will never catch on!'

 

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Here's the nightmare for Skylake Processors on Mobile versions (SLK-H) & Readymade Desktops (SLK-Y) all are on BGA no more MQ only HQ...damnit !!
Intel Skylake PC platform: quad-core CPUs, new graphics, new chipsets | KitGuru

Plus this one featuring that intel's completely out of mind at first...
Intel Changes Plans: Set to Continue with Upgradeable LGA Platforms Even with Skylake Chips - X-bit labs

The mobile Skylake featuring BGA is utter crap destroying the whole modular High performance notebooks, how to stop this bulls**t from happening...

I guess the only way is AMD if they manage to get their processors performance on par with Intel then this BGA will stop but that would be a miracle to happen...

& Lastly I guess the Broadwell might also have the MQ processors line up, suggesting from that Intel's roadmap.

 

If we have to depend on AMD for anything, especially with respect to CPUs, we are definitely doomed. The last time they had a CPU that was as good or better than an Intel processor was back in days of the Pentium 4. Some of the youngest gamers around were in grade school and others were still wearing diapers back then.

 

If Intel ever made desktops chips BGA only then there will be a massive riot. Or at least I hope there will be one. If that day ever comes I will have no choice but to go AMD and never look back. BGA has absolutely no place in the desktop world period.

 

Just thought maybe this was worth mentioning, again. Perhaps it was overlooked. What do you guys think about this? Particularly the second paragraph.

Also, the latest "apparel contest" would suggest they are very close to launching their new systems, considering 1st place has a reward of one.

 

Well, there are several articles on the internet with people that already visited Alienware and saw the 13" with their own eyes. All of them says that they can't tell the exactly release date, but should be something at the beginning of November. So we can assume that is a fact that AW13 is about to come.

But isn't very smart to release a new 13" model and instantly refresh a 14" model, unless they actually provide different hardwares, which may indicate that 13" won't come out with anything better than 860m, otherwise it would steal sales from the 14". So the questions is, when will the 14" (and obviously all the other ones) will be released with a refresh GPU lineup? For that, we have no clue. But one thing is fact, if I had the option of buying a 14" and 13" model for the same price, and the 14" having better hardware, I'd def go for it, and I guess everyone else. And that's why I don't think they will refresh their line-up close to the 13" release date.

Am I being nonsense ?

 

I agree matolati. I'll buy 14" probably. But i think the 13" will replace 14", if not i'll go for 14". More weight doesn't matter for me, better have gtx 9xx series.

 

Trust me, there won't be a riot. There will be a small community such as this sub forum going all crazy, but when all said and done, we are like 5% of Intel's mobile customer base, the rest will buy whatever is out there and we won't get heard.
Combine this with OEMs taking Intel's side because they get a better deal for soldered processors, plus let's not overlook the fact that customers will more or less be forced to buy a brand new computer if they want a faster CPU. OEMs will be there right with Intel.

Word on the street is that new redesigned chassis from Alienware are coming and they will discontinue some models.
i7 Broadwell isn't coming until Q2 2015 and should have been here this summer. So that naturally changes OEMs plans. Which you see from both MSI (GT72) and Asus (G751) which are all redesigned new models with Maxwell

 

Intel said Broadwell is coming early 2015. And the "redesigns" are rumors. Skylake is scheduled for Q4 2015. This changed recently (last month).

2015 will be the first year to a new start at Dell. It's finally a private company. No more bloody shareholders!

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Well the high end LGA2011-x and LGA115x will continue to exist on desktops but I guess the BGA will take around 60-70% of the Intel's market in 2015-2016 & yeah many customers are ready to buy whatever crap the OEMs offer, like those Razer Blade and Aorus X7....

Plus I really hope the Maxwell AW's are coming soon w/o that BGA crap...

 

If Intel were to go BGA only on desktops it would turn the motherboard manufacturing and sales upside down as well. It's really idiotic that anyone thinks this kind of design (BGA) is OK. It's not OK, even a little bit. It's stupid, but burning calories for an effort at gathering enough support to cause a massive consumer revolt is futile. Most people don't know, and don't care. For the average consumer, including many gamers, it's just click-and-go, baby... click-and-go... It works, so it must be good. Plus, the salesman at BestBuy said it was really good, so that's enough for me, by cracky!

 

@Cloudfire: BGA for desktops though that's something pretty different

Well see my fear is if Intel started down the BGA path LGA2011 may be a thing of the past, or they may decide to charge twice what they currently do for a socketed chip.

Like Mr. Fox mentioned, I'd be curious to see how this pans out on the motherboard side of things if Intel goes BGA. Most off-the-shelf desktops mainly use el <del>crappo</del> cheapo Quanta and Foxconn mobos, which really makes one wonder where that leaves manufacturers like Asus, Gigabyte, MSI. Or maybe they'd start making BGA mobos to compete and race each other to the bottom.

 

Finally! Next Monday we will see it all unveiled. Please don't let Alienware 18 die.

Source: Alienware Facebook Page

Check out this site
http://www.alienwarelaunch2014.com/

Looks like they are planning to reveal big news about notebooks

 

Fingers crossed mate. I've been holding out on an upgrade to the Alienware 18 since the 880Ms were such a disappointment. I hope that we'll get nothing but good news, I'd be extremely pissed if the AW 18 is waved off.

 

Good choice to not let the temptations of the hot and broken 880m misguide you

If they announce a new AW18 I will most likely purchase it days after the announcement. But if AW17 is the biggest one, I will unfortunately be forced to go to MSI or Asus.
Its a shame because I was extremely happy with my AW18. It had many good qualities you don't find elsewhere.

Fingers crossed too mate! 970M/980M SLI will be beastly.

 

Does the 120 Hz screen not factor in your choice? Or is it basically 970M/980M SLI > 120 Hz?

 

Either of those cards in SLI would be a bit overkill for 60Hz 1080p. It would be perfect for 120Hz 1080p, though.

 

For most games it would be overkill at 60fps. But not all of them. Overkill has a nice ring to it One can always OC the monitor to 75 or so hz.

 

"Forget everything you know ", Oh please don't kill off the high performance and upgradability factors !!

 

^Yeah I don't like the sound of that either.

 

Haven't they said that line before?

 

I'm actually excited about this event. I hope they show us something great on the 13" and I know that won't happen but I'm even waiting for a 970m in there. And I'm excited also about the 14, let's see what they are doing with it. Is there someone going on this event from the forum?

 

Many guys are interested over the AW13, I seriously don't get the point of interest compared with the Aleinware's 17 & 18's which are highly efficient.

As it's very slim with such high end specs and with that BGA crap, it will get hot so fast and naturally there will be a drastic efficiency decrease, plus more over the 13" is not at all good for gaming in any scenario. The 15+ inch notebooks are the only ones which are good for gaming purpose and can handle the load.

 

Well, people who wants the 13" obviously for some personal reason can't handle the weight and dimensions from a 17" laptop. I don't believe it will get hot at all. We are seeing very good temps on the gs60 with 970m, which is much slimmer than the AW13" will be. Not mentioning the 860m, a naturally cool GPU.

For me, an ULV processor and 860m is just not good enough for what I want, and that is just my personal opinion, but I totally get the point of people having interest on it.

And you are wrong about 15"+ being the only notebooks for gaming purpose. AW m11 was a great example, and Sager NP 7338 is another one. Not enough for Crysis 3 1080p Ultra setting at 60 fps sure, but obviously a good performance for the size and mobility, and also remaining reasonably cool.

 

I would be willing to take the extra size and weight for a 14, 15" top notebook compared to the 13, cause I also won't settle for 860m and ULV processor.

Really hoping for a 14/15 with 970/980M. Now that would make me one happy fella

 

How much time will take before we'll see new products (launched on october 27) available to order over website? I really need it for Christmas.

 

I doubt about a 100W+ GPU like 970M/980M making it to the AW13 or 14 because of the temperature constraints when coupled with a CPU and the need of a ~180-240W PowerBrick if equipped with an MQ processor which may be highly unlikely with that slim profile.

Those AW's will prob get a soldered 860M or any card from 900M series cards approximately ~75W ones & A low power HQ BGA processor fits fine with that profile, leaving it un-upgradable.

I just cant hold my breath for those AW's 17 & 18 news !!

 

Last time I checked, Christmas was on December 25th. So, October 27th - December 25th... That's what, two months?

You'll have it by then, lol. Chillax, bro!

 

Sorry but i don't think i have them for Christmas. There are some days from presentation to officially selled. Also i'm living in Italy (Europe), so i presume will take other time to make the localization of the product (for example the keyboard).

 

Europe usually has products before the U.S. does. These Alienware's will be shipping by November, so I'm pretty sure you'll have it by Christmas, unless you order late.

 

The 13" will be in stores in November, that's a fact. The question is about the others ones

 

Without optical drive and 2.5" hdd (two m.2 slots instead) you can do a 970m at 13 inch.

 

Doesn't mean they will, though. Since we know the 860M will be an option, I doubt they will offer a 800 series and 900 series card together (as an upgrade). Seems weird, IMO. Why would someone choose an older card over a newer one, even if it is cheaper? It also can't be much more expensive. They'll probably save the 900 series for the Alienware 14/17/18 R2's until the 960M/956M comes out next year.

Alienware's always have at least two upgrade options, sometimes three or more (depending if AMD joins the show). There will probably be a 965M, 970M, 980M or 970M, 975M, 980M for the Alienware 17 and 18 R2's. I imagine the Alienware 14 will have the 965M next year.

 

Now, things should be getting to be a little more exciting...

 

Very nice. I can't wait to see what these babies can do.
Fingers crossed we don't have any kind of artificial driver limitations too.

 

Well Well Alienware 18 with Dual 980M SLI IN stock!!!!
Alienware 18 HID19 NVIDIA Dual SLI GTX 980M Gaming Laptop | eBay

 

GPUBoost Synchronization you say? I wonder if it's a new thing with Maxwell, or drivers are just borked atm:

 

Not really - read the fine print:

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M with 8GB GDDR5 - installed by HIDevolution

They're just installing 980m modules into existing units.

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Ahh on lighter note, if you wann eat chicken doesnt mean you wann meet real chicken I'm just interested in those two 980M

 

LOL Fair enough

 

They shoyld just dump those panzy machines below 17's. They shpuld put their effort in building 17's and 18's. Thats where the money is for them and where the power is for us.

 

I'd love to see the Alienware 13 design in a 14" form factor (e.g. AW 13 and AW 14 merged into one), then continue to offer the 14", 17", 18" and a new 19" model.

 

An 18 or 19 with a 5960X CPU, 980M SLI and a 1kW AC adapter would be really sweet.

 

My thoughts exactly. Perhaps with additional room for another fan or something for an "overclocking enabled mode."

They could dedicate a six-pipe heat sink to the CPU with dual fan support by splitting the heat sink up and having one fan per three pipes.

 

The 5960X causes issues even for desktop systems -- power draw of over 400W have been observed, and even with a custom loop temperatures can still go above 95C. Putting that nuclear reactor into a laptop is just begging for trouble.

I actually dropped the idea of a 5960X build after reading about how much of a monstrosity it is.

 

Well, just having chipset support for a desktop CPU is good enough for me. Pretty much any of them will outperform a mobile chip.

I think that's basically what we were getting at.

 

Desktop CPUs are power monsters, well you get more performance. Unfortunately, it heatsink and other parts makes laptop bulky.

 

wI would love to see them add an Alienware version of this to their lineup. Always wanted 1, still think about getting 1 just for the hell of it. Make it Widescreen, everything detachable as before. A true 20" desktop/laptop gaming beast.

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Hey guys,

So, I might very well buy an Alienware 17 with a 980M and a 120 Hz screen when they're out.

My concern is that I want a quality TN display (I play fast-paced FPS games, so I need lower response times than what IPS screens offer), and I've read a couple of AW 17 (2014) reviews which said the panel wasn't that great. I'm guessing those reviews were about the 60 Hz panel, though. My question is therefore: how good would you say the AW 17's screen is? And are 120 Hz screens typically better panels (notably in terms of contrast & RGB/eRGB/AdobeRGB coverage) than the default 60 Hz screens? Thanks!

 

The answers to your questions lie within the Alienware 17 sub-forum.