Where are the new Alienwares?

anyway, just drop all these tough act and look at it this way. the more consumers are okay with garbage hardware and dont speak up, the more they will be selling it. no one complains means OEM will just shrug it off say everybody else is ok with it.

people that dont care simply because they dont understand, are stupid, or simply dont have the time, and that means they aren't enthusiast nor can they call it a "high end" gaming laptop. sure it's gaming laptop but definitely not high end, not even close, yet spends 5000-6000 getting ripped off to no ends thinking they bought a good product.

these people have the right to know, if they getting ripped off and lied to yet brainwashed thinking they got something good, then thats just wrong.

 

100% correct

 

How is the 1060 compared to your previous 980m?

 

Who is spending $5000-6000? Certainly not me. I already showed you my maths lol.

My current laptop cost $1800. IF I choose to upgrade to a brand new 1070/1080 laptop it would cost me anywhere between $1800-$2800. Total cost I would have spent on two laptops would be $3600-$4600.

Nobody but you enthusiasts are spending $5000+ on a single laptop here. And what happened to Mr. Fox's $5000 laptop? Oh he had to sell it for $3000 4 months later, which means he made a loss of $2000. Forget about the time he spent tuning it.

What's going to happen to the people buying Clevo's new DM3? Well they'll upgrade to Kaby Lake some point in the future but that's it, and then Nvidia/Clevo will change the MXM design for Volta and they'll be **** out of luck. Anyone who truly doesn't believe Nvidia/Clevo will pull that **** again in a year is being delusional. They're definitely going to do so.

And yes that's wrong but it was you enthusiasts who spent the past 2 years making fun of everyone who bought a BGA laptop because they'll never be able to upgrade it. What happened 2 years later? You got the short end of the stick by the companies you held so highly in regard. Neither you or I can upgrade my laptop to anything meaningful...well I mean unless you're going to try and convince me that a 1060 upgrade is definitely a top of the line gaming beast!

Who cares how powerful it is? I don't go around claiming my laptop is a monster top of the line high performance gaming machine. And then find out that my only upgrade choice is the 1060.

Even if I buy a whole brand new GTX 10 series laptop, I would have still saved money and have a significantly more powerful gaming machine than what you enthusiasts have right now. Well not in the CPU department but definitely in the GPU department and since its for the gaming the GPU > CPU.

So at the end of the day when you look at it. YOU were the ones who got screwed, not us. We bought our laptops knowing full well what to expect from the future. You bought your laptop with the hope that in the future Clevo/Nvidia/Intel wouldn't shaft you, and they did shaft you. Big time.

 

Who said @Mr. Fox or I spent $5000 usd on our P870?

 

If I go configure his laptop (the one that he sold recently) on Eurocom right now it comes upto $4500-$4600. Granted he may have performed some of his own upgrades by himself (SSD/HDD/RAM/Had his own extra power adapter) which would change the cost but I have no way of knowing that so I went with the cheapest options that match his specs to see what Eurocom charges.

And of course that's not including the countless hours he spent tuning it, testing it, benching it to turn it into the machine he had. That time is essentially priceless.

But let's say $4000. Either way you look at it the VAST majority of people buying gaming laptops are not spending anywhere near $3000 or more. The only people doing so are enthusiasts, that's my entire point.

The average person is spending maybe $2000 or less on a gaming laptop and then upgrading it every couple of years with a new one. Ole!!! was making it seem like these guys are buying $6000 laptops and then throwing them away every 2 years and then buying another $6000 laptop. Virtually nobody is doing that.

 

Got mine for $3500, after all the upgrades.

 

I hope you can show me the newer laptops with 1080 under or about $2000 usd
I paid about $ 3750 for the BGA-KILLER in sig. Including 2x 512GB 950 Pro and 512GB 850 Pro. And of course the 1TB old fashioned HDD. Those ssd's isn't the cheapest ssd on the market.
Maybe you remember it to next time you spread **** and claim what other payd?

 

My point still stands. Only enthusiasts are, generally, buying very expensive laptops. Everyone else is most likely spending half that.

 

Not according to NVIDIA/MSI/CLevo, at least seems to be the case, with the way they are screwing people over.
And this doesn't quite fall into an enthusiasts system i think.

 

You need to learn to read because all those have already been answered, like 3 times.

You can get a 1070 laptop for $1800 (little bit more / less depending on options). The 1080 laptops are, right now, $2800 at least.

Already answered to how the price came along. I have no clue how much each of you individually spent. I looked at his specs, went to eurocom, put those specs in and noted the price. If I was to buy a similarly specced NEW laptop that he has it would cost me $4400-$4600. That's where that number came from. So no its not ********.

Just like how my laptop when new from alienware would have cost $2400. But yet I got it (new) for $1800 because of various discounts + free ram upgrade. Does that mean if I tell people a new alienware 17 r2 costs $2400 means I'm lying? Hardly.

But I find it funny you claim that I'm spreading ******** but not Ole!!! who claims we're all spending $5000-6000 on laptops and then throwing them away.

Yes they are screwing people over, I get that. Has nothing to do with how many people buy that particular laptop. Willing to bet it's not their top seller, or anywhere near their top seller.

The average gamer is buying laptops less than $2000, maybe $2500. The average enthusiast is spending more than $3000.

 

Alright folks, the past dozen of pages was filled with personal attacks and off topic posts that me and my colleagues had to remove.

After all this, I see no sign of improvement and as a result, this thread is now closed.