Why Alienware?

i'm actually regretting buying my alienware, not that it's a bad machine just that sager is better bang for the buck.

my m15x rocks out loud, but still...

 

Hype, Self Satisfaction, then Denial

i have not bought into AW... but based on my purchase and ownership experience of another boutique... those 3 are just about it folks...

Hype:
includes looks & design, and "premium" concept... really, just a hype... ok, a couple of more FPS here and there... hey, at one point in time, i recall my laptop was the "best of the best of the best..." but technology is brutal and that glory is short lived...

then comes Self Satisfaction... you justify your purchase as it being "my baby" my personal baby... my one of a kind baby... my ownership experience...

then comes Denial... despite the issues and the woes... "i love it"...
"this is MY baby..." and i do remember in shanghai a couple of weeks after my $7000 endeavour... in the electronics market, i saw a price of a Clevo of equivalent setup... oh... ok...

yea, we learn to love our machines despite the "flaws"...
we dont "regret" our purchases... nooo... never...

but then why do we buy into AW or any other Fads?... Hype, Self Satisfaction and Denial... that's bout it...

and i've done it again with my car...
and i will probably do it again...
in the near future...

as soon as i get a good moment to talk with the wife...

oh, on a final note.... let me add... Clevo is BUTT UGLY!!!
and i guess some makeup does help... eh?

thank you...

 

Design and Hype (plus the little cool features)

 

the best thing about buying an alienware i think is that so many people want one that reselling is easier. they don't lose value as much as others.

 

eh, i dunno... to be honest, i don't think my m15x will have much resale value in a few years...

 

Nah they lose value and the biggest problem is that when you try to sell it you cannot transfer over the warranty like you can with other companies so the person who buys it is SOL if anything breaks because AW will refuse to talk to you unless you are the original buyer.

Also, if I had a second chance I would have bought a sager/clevo. I do not understand a lot of you saying that the AW has better aesthetics because looking like a huge geek whenever I whip out my laptop is kind of annoying and I'd rather have one that is more "hidden" than just screams 'LOOK AT ME I LOVE COMPUTERS"!

 

the delay is only due to NP9262, Please read the thread other than just the first post.
on the other hand, here are the centrino 2 rigs reviews and benchmark:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=276430
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3687429&postcount=43

 

Whew, I'm glad that Kinghong1970 and others are here to tell us why we REALLY chose AW. Otherwise, I might never have known I was in denial. /rollseyes.

 

why alienware? looks. specs. and because i wanted one.

 

It seems this topic ended m15x vs m8600.

Which in my eyes gives a tie. The m15x has longer life battery, binary gfx, smartbay and isn't that overpriced. The m8600 has new platform, DDR3, 64bit OS ready (AW isn't), has a insignificantly better gpu and a fair price.

Adding, m15x you already know what to expect (poor workmanship, creaking, woobling, etc). M8600 remains with "lack of reviews".

So, in this, you see a reason to still get a AW.

Other side, on the 17" market... well you only get a AW if you like to pay for looks. Since there is no space to argue: clevo montevina 17" notebook > AW m17x.

And the OP meant to talk about TODAYS standards, since if you look 7months ago, there would be NO point in arguing "why get a AW instead a Sager", because the m15x was the only 15" notebook with a 8800GTX, and so the only "top perfomance" notebook in that category.

 

Yep, I realised that after posting a few uselss comments Good summary there!

 

Just want to say thank you to everyone that responded, after 2 hours of reading your posts, I've got my answer (yes 2 hours, every post haha).

I didn't mean this to be a versus thread, I was only using the sager for a separate identity of equal value. But i got a good amount of information from a lot of you guys, so thank you for your input.

PS pas-tense/present made no difference

 

i just want to say, i have nver regreted bying my m15x, it is an awesome piece of machine, and looks great too, all the other computers i saw were ugly as hell


so if i can afford to buy a 3500$ laptop i will buy it, and i will feel great about it

 

Now you say that
Hahaha

 

haha that is so true I can't find any computer that can beat it looks and only one that can challenge it in specs

 

haha Wraithers

And yes i agree, the Alienware looks are unmatched. how long u think till Alienware comes out with the next 15 in lappy?

 

years, probably.

 

It could be this Tuesday...

Maybe Alienware is advertising the current m15x so much, with a newsletter devoted to the m15x and featuring it on the homepage to help clear their current stock to get ready for a new one? Plus, don't forget about Breed and the AlienNetwork video on Tuesday.

 

it probably depends on when the next nvidia platform comes out. since the 9000 series has very minimal change AW might wait for maybe a 10000 series? a GTX M 280/260? i think the earliest we will see a new notebook is whenever Nvidia decides to release a new card that is actually an improvement.

 

Agree with whizzo and exiled

I'd think in about a year/year and a half, but this is all speculation..
It could even be at the next CES like these last two years, however they just started production and shipping of the m17x around a month back so that could change things.

 

I also agree with whizzo and exiled.

 

Why Alienware?
Build Quality and Style!

Its like a Porsche 911 Non-Turbo vs a Mustang GT500
Alienware's might not be the fastest but the slickest design and looks thus far!

 

i wouldnt say build quality. i do agree on style tho.

 

I would prefer a Porsche + an Alienware....

 

are you saying AW = porsche or mustang?

 

from what i gather, AW = a 1981 honda civics rebuilt engine placed in a porsche.

 

the engine on 911 is not that scary.

 

it cant be a 1981 honda civic engine since the performance is still one of the best in the market...

 

Why is this thread still open? It's called "Why Alienware" started by a Sager guy? Blatant flame bait if you ask me.

AW would be win if it didn't have such bad build quality.

Smartbay and binary gfx means I can take it on the road to do work ALL DAY WITHOUT THE POWERBRICK and still come home and have an awesome gaming experience.

Power and flexibility. Any other questions?

 

Dont get all defensive AW guy, I was't starting a flame or an AW vs Sager, as was stated in my opening thread. It was a sincere question, because even though I've ordered a Sager, I still struggle with the choice. I've always wanted an AW, but if looks are the only advantage, than I'd rather get the same specs in a different brand for $500 cheaper.

Like I've said before, Alienware's looks are unsurpassed IMO. If I had the extra money to spend, I would of got an AW, but I can barly justify spending the $2300 that I just spent on the Sager, let alone another $500 just for looks.

 

"AW would be win if it didn't have such bad build quality."

Yea but it does which is kind of an issue.

 

Like I posted in another thread (that got locked):

That was their first 15" that they put top of the line hardware into it and actually had a better notebook than anything else that you could find (for its' first seven months at least), and I think it was the first 15" ever to have the best of the best. They did a really good job for their first time around. I'm sure that they've learned enough for their next 15" to blow away the competition. If it wasn't for the m15x's problems, it would've already. PCWorld called it the most well-rounded notebook that they ever tested, and I wouldn't doubt that because of the battery life and performance Alienware got out of a 15" notebook that's only a little bigger than other ones.

If Alienware had the same quality control for every notebook shipped that they have for critics' notebooks, they would be fine. Most of the problems aren't really Alienware's fault, it's the staff that Alienware hired to build their systems.

 

where do you get that?

 

Let's hope they learned something... All brands should learn over the years, but you only know for sure when you get the new model under your nose.

Lol, I chuckled What exactly do you think Alienware is? The alien mothership orbiting our planet? Alienware is the company, and it is composed entirely out of the staff crew that makes the things.
So what exactly do you mean with "the staff that Alienware hires is the problem". Staff is hired by staff. Staff makes products. The company is only as good as the staff that works there.
So if the staff doesn't build good products, then Alienware as a whole makes bad products. And that's the fault of the corporation as a whole.

 

What I meant was that the people that build each individual system, not the ones that designed it, are the people to blame for most of the m15x's problems. The m15x's only real problem is its' build quality issues, which is mostly because of how it's made.

 

The m15x is also by now the only 15.4" laptop supporting the FX 3600M video card. If it is going to be also the first one to actually melt in front of its owner, with that monster of card, it is another matter but I guess we'll discover it shortly.

The FX 3600M is a professional model, so probably it will not appeal most of the customer base of AW. However I'm impressed by the effort the put into it, only a couple of 17" models could carry that Quadro until now.

 

I have talk to techs about the Quadro. It not for gamming it more for cad and so on so it will not be super hot.

 

The Quadro is indeed more for CAD and modeling. However its peak power consumption is 70 W (the 8800M GTX is 35 W) and I wonder if this will sit well with the m15x.

 

If that were the case, then he’s pretty sure which is best since he did post the question in the rivals’ forum. That’s only going by your thinking, not his. He is about to purchase a laptop, and wanted to know if his decision to choose Sager is wise or not considering there might be some AW units that would give him the better bang for the buck. Asking that in the Sager forum might have given him selective views, which seems to be the case here as well.

Thanks, that made his decision somewhat easier!

Excuse me? What the heck does that mean? That he can buy a Dell 1330, use it all day on the road and come home to game on his desktop? Or do you mean that swapping out the bay drive for the bay battery on the AW, instead of swapping batteries out period on the Sager will give you more battery life?

Yes, just about everything you brought up.

 

Oh **** I didn't know that. Maybe they downclock the Quadro or something because that is a pretty big difference. I really want to see some tests with that card because I wonder how it works with the M15x.

 

I look forward to that as well. If AW manages it, Clevo may consider to support it as well on the M860TU and then it would become quite interesting.

 

Keep this conversation on-topic and factual. I see a lot of unfounded statements being thrown around.

 

I just ordered my boss a Precision m6300 with the quadro 3600 card. i'll look to see what temps are using i8kfangui and the 7 degree offset. i heard it runs cooler as its based on the "GTS" model (the one the very affordable gateway gaming laptop uses). the gts has less shaders i believe, like 64 vs 112 or something. Anyhow, i believe it will be here wed-thurs of next week.

 

Fitting that GPU in the nice Precision m6300 17" workstation, will have different results than fitting it in a 15" notebook. With that being said...I'm sure many here are waiting to see exactly if they will put the full blown quadro 3600 in the x15 and it doesn't melt anything.

 

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Precisely. The potential buyers of that system are surely less than the ones for the gaming version with the 8800M GTX, but if AW manages to get sufficient cooling this time (and I wonder how, since the chassis should be the same) they will have a unique machine like the m15x was at the beginning of this year.

The shipping time for the m15x with the Quadro is 20 of August on their website. I hope someone is brave enough to order one and post some review.

 

I hear something about a new m15x, A different look/chasis? Or different arangment of compents? And when might they be coming out with the new m15x?

 

Nothing new, those are all speculative news.