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    Windows7 here I come...

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by findvikas, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. findvikas

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    There are couple of DLL's that are installed in System drive and its not a good idea to install it on USB. If all you care about is changing the colors, then get the Standalone version of color wheel and you dont need CC to be installed. ColorWheel works same with Win7
     
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    So what's the best way to go about partitioning my hard drive?

    I never partitioned a hard drive before and I do not want to screw anything up.
     
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    Yeah you can use GParted which is indeed a great tool, but 'handle with care' :)
     
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    Do Vista driver's work with Win 7?
     
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    Sorry for the double post, but how come I'm not prompted to enter Respawn when I boot up anymore?
     
  7. findvikas

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    A new OS install will overrite the MBR (master boot record), this is the first sector of hard drive where the boot information is stored. Per my knowledge Respawn tools are installed on a seperate partition which is selected as default boot partition on a factory configured machine. When you install a new OS this partition is no longer an active partition and does not gives you any prompt.

    If you want this option back, go back in GParted assuming you have installed Win7 & done with all, select the last partition... should be around 8gb and mark it as active partition. Reboot and you should get it back.
     
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    I didnt install using GParted. I used Vista partition program.
     
  9. findvikas

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    Either ways respawn partition is no longer an active partition. You could turn it active from disk management as well.
     
  10. findvikas

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    There are even more devices which are supported from within Win7's own driver base, you dont need a driver cd. Still if it cannot find the right driver for you... Vista drivers 'should' work fine without any problem whatsoever.
     
  11. kobe

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    Hey Vikas, Win 7 is pretty sweet. I'm running the Beta in a dual boot config with Vista Home Premium. You guys are doing a good job at M$.

    I didn't have to load any big drivers other than the Nvidia Video.
     
  12. Deepestblue

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    many vista drivers works for 7. :) and there is a special GPU driver for ATI , for windows 7, both 32 and 64 bit :)
     
  13. Axman

    Axman Notebook Evangelist

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    Windows 7 has an update for the drivers for our cards (3870x2) for download.
     
  14. Axman

    Axman Notebook Evangelist

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    i got it. got all my drivers up, there is a beta driver for our card for download in windows update. hasnt worked installing it yet. gonna restart and try again and then run 3dm06.
     
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    So, this release is the exact same release that I had been using for 2 weeks.
     
  16. Axman

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    yeah, the leaked version. but its legal now!
     
  17. whizzo

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    legal, schmegal. rumor has it the "leaked" early version was leaked by M$ themselves.
     
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    i tried out a copy of vista ultimate 64 the other week, as i currently have ultimate 32, and thought it was slightly more responsive, loaded a bit quicker, did all things a biy quicker i guess. i have never really seen what all the fuss was about with vista, ok, i havent used a machine with XP on it for what, a good couple of years, but i dont remember it being soo much better than what im using now. i like vista, and was impressed with the 64 bit version.

    anyway, to topic, i have downloaded the win7 64 official beta, and have to say that it is quicker on my m15x than both 32 and 64 versions of vista. it works ok, it looks pretty good if you ask me. only time will tell if it is good enough for me to actually buy a copy when it comes out, but my early impressions are pretty good.

    id also be quite excited about the touch screen possibilities, if it wasnt for having to shell out a whole new lot of money for that feature to work. i only spent £2300 on my m15x a year ago!!

    i can see why people want to slag MS off, they are a MASSIVE company, and they charge way too much for their products, especially office. but let give them a break? if win7 does prove to be stable and quicker than xp, who cares if it took 8 years or whatever, not me
     
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    What about the gaming performance ? for those who have installed win7
     
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    it's slower in gaming in my experience, but my system is fast enough to compensate for now.
     
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    i havent had any problems with dead space or mass effect, havent erlaly tried anything else yet
     
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    I installed Win7 on a second drive last night. Many items in device manager have no drivers installed. My sound is terrible. Also, when I boot back into Vista, the sound is still terrible. I have to boot a second time into Vista to get my sound normal again. I tried installing the 64bit Vista audio drivers but the installer said incompatible OS.

    Win7 also did not find a driver for the ethernet card. I could not install a driver for it because again the installer said incompatible OS.

    It seems to run fast, but I have a bunch of drivers that won't install.
     
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    whoa - I installed windows7 on a 2nd drive in my m9750 - I haven't had to install one driver...everything is happy in the device manager, I've never had a crash....this OS is so smooth I find it a little creepy...it even asked for my WEP key during installation...
    also...I played some COD4 on it and it seemed to run just fine...
    the only program that has made any complaints is skype, but it still seems to be working.
     
  24. FoxTrot1337

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    Really? My M17 runs smooth, I only needed drivers for my Wi-Fi, fingerprint scanner, and CCC. The Vista drivers work too.

    For the audio, right click the driver installation and click "Compatability Troubleshoot", follow through the instructions and you will get it to work.

    -That is what I did. Hope it helps! :D
     
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    Yeah, for people don't know how to install drivers, they should not install windows 7 beta. Especially those doesn't have the patience to change the setting of taskbar to fit their style and say it's worse than vista.


    First thing you do after you install windows7 is disable UAC and change taskbar settings.
     
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    UAC isn't all that bad in Windows 7, I left it on to test it out and it really has been streamlined. It's actually ok to leave it on.
     
  27. findvikas

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    Its actually recommended to leave it on to default (1 level below the full high). It will not prompt if you manually go and change any system setting but if a program tries to do that behind the scenes it will prompt you. UAC could save you hours or days of hard work in fixing your system back to normal.
     
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    Below is a shot of the devices that did not install drivers during install. So, not every Windows 7 install goes well on the M17. My sound is still horrible and I have to reboot into Vista twice in order to get it to sound correctly.

    I know how to install drivers. It's been part of my job for 20 years. I just haven't had time to mess with it. I was simply relating my experiences of trying things the easy way. I installed it out of curiosity to see what would happen.
     

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    Out of curiosity, since your ethernet driver is not installed - can you go to Windows Update and check for driver updates ?
     
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    I just installed the drivers from My Hive. They worked and sound is normal.
     
  31. Axman

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    i have no sound issues in 7, in vista i would when it came out of sleep mode.
     
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    I've gone to the Disk Management, but I have no idea what to do? :confused:

    -I'm a noob at installing OSs, this is the first time I ever dual booted something.
     
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    well, i've succeeded - this my first post on Windows 7 :D looking good so far.
     
  34. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    congratz as soon as i get the m17 imma war drive and get it from some one lol
     
  35. whizzo

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    well just had my first crash :D

    to be fair though, i was trying to install Dox' customized 181.20 graphics driver :D
     
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    Congrats whizzo! Ya crashed the beta OS more stable than Vista. :)
     
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    eh, i didn't really expect it to work... a desktop GPU driver, heavily modified by some 3rd party website, and then i try to install it on a beta version of an OS it wasn't developed for... :D
     
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    watch out, some anti-ms fanboys are coming in here soon. worst OS ever, it crashes. :D
     
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    85 percent now whooooooo now for the m17 to shipp imma put this on a old compaq v5305 and see what it does and try a dual boot on the desktop
     
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    The Alien Respawn option doesn't show up for me either. Vista does not give me the option to set it active. I booted up gparted and I saw no option to make it active. Weird.
     
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    its offical here i got it running and may i say its beautiful and works geat and the install is way better set up love the task bar to
     
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    Congrats Mr. M! Woot! Glad you didn't feel the need to make a pointless "I got it" thread! ;)
     
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    I tried upgrading to Windows 7 from Vista, didn't want a fresh install as i dont want to reinstall everything again, and it didn't work! The setup went through all the steps up to the actual install of features (after unpacking and gathering and all that) but then rolled back to Vista, can't see any errors anywhere either!
     
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    All im running is windows 7 x64. it expires in August and im not to worried about problems because i dont mind reinstalling vista if need be
     
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    I changed the taskbar for easier read when I first install windows 7.
    Now, after I read some comments on how the original design is more efficient, it just need some time to learn, then I use the original design.
    It's actually very very good. Now, I put the taskbar on the right (which I never do in previous windows), and I can see clearly which icon is just opened, and pinned. Very organized. Especially when I have 8+ applications open.

    Don't hate something until you fully learn about it.
     
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    I tired out the beta today i like it a lot, but if you showed it to just anyone they would think it was vista
     
  47. Axman

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    i like the task bar alot better. It does take some getting used to, but its so much easier to manage and control once you get used to it.
     
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    I hope that we don't have to wait until August for it to be official, i wouldn't mind if they released it in March or April. I hate when Hardware and Software do like batch releases. August always is a back to school month so release all the new stuff then, causing a backlog of orders.
     
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    i doubt it will be released this year, ive tested every beta since 98 besides vista. and its always been at least 1 year from the beta until the final release.
     
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    But this is a sp2 for vista.
     
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