Apple -- The New Trend Setter ?

SCARY picture there Apple_Killer

 

people are exaggerating this netbook market. theyre crappy little laptops and thats all it is. the netbook market is going nowhere imo and its wise of apple to stay out of it.

its not where computing is headed and its not part of apples vision.

 

I think the netbook and the notebook will become synonymous soon enough. If you can get a 12" laptop with a discrete gfx card (8400G), C2D and same specs as any other laptop, then why get a netbook? How long before a netbook is just a smaller laptop with all the goods under the hood?

 

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Agree ---- Unless there is something I'm missing, This is a nacent market. Apple shouldn't touch this right now with a 10 foot pole !

 

woot! hit by apples! maybe i can improve the gravitational theory.

back to the topic. companies are only driven by profit, both short term and long term. the fact that many big players in the computing industry jumped into the arena backs up my point.
unless you come up with data backing your claim that netbook market is worthless, your comments are meaningless.

 

Actually the Asus N10 is a 10" "netbook" with a 9300M GPU. Talk about blurring the lines.

 

profits?

all i'm hearing is layoffs and losses. i'm not going to argue this further because arguing about netbooks is a joke. if you want to prove me wrong you back up your claim about profits and show me how much netbooks have contributed to dell or hps income, the market leaders in home and business computers. have fun finding those numbers.

 

you can have negative profit, and it's called a loss. in this case the firm will seek to its minimize loss/maximise profit. why should i explain such obvious statements.

basic theory tells me that if a firm is enjoying excess profit in a certain market, other firms will come in, the excess profit will be saturated by the other firms. my main point remains the same, the fact there are many new entrants justifies my claim. there you go.

 

I agree with this, netbooks are not really taking over or rather eating much of the notebook markets share.

I think netbooks are popular right now but when it comes down to it a netbook is an overpriced piece of crap thrown together that most smart phones with built in 3g could do.

Netbooks is a trend itself and will die out eventually. And if you really think about it, netbooks have always been around and its slowly starting to evolve into ultraportable notebooks, the same as what Sony has been making for the past 20 years.

And when I saw "evolve" the netbooks are starting to gain actual intel cpu's and memory parts from real notebooks and basically you throw in an atom cpu, integrated gpu, 8"-10" screen, ddr2 RAM, SSD/HDD, keyboard and little trackpad/pointer, you get an ultraportable notebook.

One last thing to say about the netbooks is that to me its a very uncomfortable thing to carry around. I mean at least an iphone or an HTC phone can fit in your pocket and still get online via 3g.. but a netbook is between a notebook and an smart/pda phone and seems not really worth it to still lug it around.

I mean if I was going to go out and take the trouble to carry something around, I wouldnt mind carrying around something much more worth carrying like a sony vaio p90 (which I dont consider it as a netbook and actually a real ultraportable notebook) or a macbook air.

 

so why is it that apple has not yet introduced a netbook? thats the arguement here isnt it? apple can apparently attain 25% of the market if they create netbooks?
that was your claim right?

acer and asus have 70% of the netbook market btw.

 

thomas.murlis has gone militantly anti-apple!

 

I think they interviewed Tim Cook about netbooks and Apple's future in it. And at the meeting last week he concluded that Apple is not interested in something in the $500 netbook as it is too cheaply made and basically not worth it over the long run.

I could see the netbooks sales taking over if the economy were to get into a serious depression but for now I think we'll be alright after Obama has served his first term. =D

 

Well it's a good thing Asus/Dell/Benq/MSI/Acer/Samsung didn't listen to you then.

Because a netbook costs about 1/6th as much as an ultraportable notebook.

Apple just wouldn't do it because they could only engineer a testicle heater that small.

 

The difference between ultraportables and netbooks is that netbooks are less powerful but much less expensive. It's saying, hey, you don't need all that much computing power to check email and some websites and use a word processor.

Anyway, if Apple had a netbook, and they were the only company with a netbook, a lot of you guys would be talking about how they're so amazingly great and such a trendsetter and netbooks are going to replace regular laptops, etc.

 

lol 10chars

 

My whole point is most people would rather bother carrying around if anything of a hassle something more powerful than the weak netbooks.

I would rather carry my iphone and have the comfort of it being in my pocket and googling via 3g time to time instead of actually carrying a backpack to put my netbook in and if I was carrying anything to that requires a backpack and many would agree I would much rather just stick a macbook or a macbook air in the backpack and get a whole lot more computing on the go.

I dont see netbooks taking over the notebook markets, it may retain its own little market but eventually will die off or just evolve and merge into a more mainstream ultraportable market.

I may be an Apple Fanboy but I do have some sense and if Apple does plunge into the netbook market I would have to see what it offers before glorifying it as I think macbook air is just "ok."

However I do drool over those sony vaio p90 and wish apple would make an equivalent to that ultraportable.

 

Surely Apple would use the same Atom processors like the rest of the OEM vendors so it wouldnt be a testicle heater.

I dont understand, most other notebooks burn your testicles just as much as Apple's notebooks.

And there is a reason why laptops are not called laptops anymore and their called notebooks for a reason.

 

And then Steve Jobs said "to the death"

 

I still have no idea what the hell your talking about.

 

fight to the death since you aren't smart enough to get it

 

I'm lol'ing all over the place reading this topic.

 

Oh Jesus...

 

Well, Apple have been using the same parts as everyone else for a few years now, and people still complain about the heat. My MacBook was so hot it was the only laptop I've owned that I would only use on my lap if wearing atleast jeans.

"It's okay, we can just use their nuts as a heatsink!"
"Brilliant!"

 

Nuts as a heatsink? Never crossed my mind.

 

well thats all due to their arrogance in not having vents. not even the bottoms of their laptops has vents. its this enclosed piece of metal.

 

it will mess with the style of the macbooks

 

If you look at any threads including, hp, dell, asus, alienware, sager, everyone complains about the heat on their "notebooks."

I dont know about you but the 2nd generation macbook (white) that I had, I was able to use it on my lap just fine even when I had shorts on while it being mildy warm.

Also I dont know about you but when I place a notebook on my lap, its no where near touching my nuts as my d*ck is in the way (so basically you would flip back your d*ck for your nuts to be actually touching the bottom of the notebook?!?).

 

but nuts are evolved to stay cool you know, it even regulate it's tempreature automaticly

 

please care to read carefully I said MOST,not ALL!

f.e. how does including blu-ray act on stocks?and I don't believe that because of 1 trojan the stacks fell...

 

yeah?tell that to my m4400,which reaches 93 w/o and overclocking

 

*WHOOSH!* Figure of speech, dude.

RMA it. Dell's aren't supposed to get within 10 degrees of boiling point.

 

oc it reached 98 sadly can't return it,since I am not in USA now.I ll try XP,it may help...

 

True enough the cost difference is there on many netbooks. But I still see the lines being blurred more all the time. Some netbooks are definitely getting into the price of a full fledged 13"-14" notebook. I mean you can get a laptop from BB or FS for <$500 when there's a good sale on (at least up here). And well spec'd 10"-12" notebooks are showing up more and more and the prices will likely drop as most tech does over time.

You still said absolutely nothing to prove your point. Way to go!

 

sorry?what do I have to prove?

 

MOST? You said MOST of the points in my post are inaccurate, but you have yet to point out one single thing in my post which is inaccurate.

I'll even help you get started. I said iPod Touch was Apple's last major new product (not update, but new product). I had forgotten about the Macbook Air, which can be considered major, kinda.

So... you have a lot more of my points to discredit in order to show that most ot the points made in my post were inaccurate.

I never claimed these were reasons the stock fell... I said that they're reasons I was pessimistic about Apple stock. (I didn't say they would make everyone pessimistic, either.)

 

Why should someone be pessimistic about stocks?The only reason i can think is that he is not sure that they ll keep their cost....

Man,it is pointless to argue with you.You don't even want to understand what I am saying.

But I have an idea-lets open a new sub-forum called "Apple sucks",so all who hates apple can come together and discuss how bad,overpriced,pointless and worthless mac is!I come here to discuss apple products and their problems and not to ruin my nerves.

 

Just for the record, I don't understand what you are saying either. 0.o

Swarmer has made no statements about "Apple Sucks" and made an excellent contribution to this thread's topic with his post. You challenged his points than failed to qualify why. There's no reason to get all edgy, unless you don't really have any good reasons to challenge Swarmer's post. Then I can understand your highly defensive replies.

 

Just to clarify, doesn't that make a lot of sense? You're "not sure [stocks] will keep their cost," so you're pessimistic about them?

 

being defensive is not allowed anymore?Ok,if you need me to prove it....tho I agree that the sentence I used was a bit wrong,I should say:"but some of you posts are inaccurate"

He says reasons for pessimism of owning aapl stocks,but mostly stats mac "problems".In same way I can say that aapl stocks drop bc of bad weather!

Judging by apple's last financial report,their sales are still "growing".

AFAIK,apple had just 3 CEO-s(in early period Steve wasn't a ceo,but was "in charge"),so...

But yeah,you are right,we don't know yet how good is the new one...also,steve is still around

there were lots of "finger-tough" phones on market before iPhone...and new contenders may bite "iPhone's pie",but I don't think that it can seriusly harm aapl or iPones sales,which,still judging by apples report,are still very strong!

And leopard will be replace soon too,and Jobs is right-lots of people bought mac bc of vista...and I think that they won't drop mac if W7 turns out to be good,I don't think that switchers would drop their macs,most of them will just dual boot!

what do you mean weren't designed for recession?apple is now nearing 10% of market share and new mac's are selling quite well!

SJ has a right to keep is "health status" secret.if you had an illness,would you like all your friends/neighbors/partners/relatives etc. to know about it?

8. No iPhone nano, and no Mac netbook imminent, apparently: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...c_netbook.html

Agree,but who said that apple should reveal something on macworld?

Once again,based on 2 reports of same trojan,which was a represented as a keygen to activate photoshop and iLife,can't be considered as "end of era",so it wouldn't harm your notebook if you ware smart enough not to give root access to a random pirated keygen from web.

Still no on-screen speedometer on Mercedes cars?C'on BMW had that for ages!

And my last statement about about MacSucks sub-forum was BC of recent mac-bashers activity(like apple_killer,pacman...,etc.)who's every post here is about mac-suking....thats why I suggest to have a separate place for that.

 

yes,but I said that i don't believe some of his point can cause the stock fall...

 

I love how every apple fan bashes netbooks all over the place, when the thing I see as having started the whole netbook craze-- the MB Air is now laying by the wayside after people bought it, realized that their child's ipod touch had the same amount of computing power.

Edit: Since I know that I'm going to get yelled/laughed at for insinuating that the MB Air was the first netbook, let me explain myself. A netbook is a limited power device that sacrifices power and size (and most of the time, a little build quality) in order to be super portable. The apple MB Air was a device that sacrificed power nd a little build quality (and design quality IMO, but we won't get into that because it's a separate debate entirely) in order to be ultra portable. Hence I see it as the first netbook.

 

Macbook Air is a nice laptop either way you look at it or whateve name you use for it.

 

MBA is a great laptop.

That said, I think a lot of the netbooks out now are incredibly nice, but IMHO not exactly trendsetting.

 

Do you realize that MBA is more powerful then lenovos x301?