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Could you please list a few.
I am seriously looking for a replacement for my penryn MBP and can't find anything worth upgrading to at this time.
17" MBP is as close as I can find but apart from that I am lost.
Dell M4400, hp elitebook, ibm t500 (even t400s) are all good but they are all relatively huge in comparison.
I travel a lot, and often with 2 laptops, so keeping the size down is very important.
I'm not getting the 'huge' bit. The Elitebooks for example are not appreciably bigger in terms of area than their definitely sleeker-
looking Apple equivalents, and typically about 0.5" thicker. I wouldn't call that 'huge'. Hell, even Dell's behemoth Covet also only needs half an inch or so more room in a laptop bag than a 17" MBP, once again occupying pretty much the same area as the Mac. The Elitebooks are a little heavier, but they are actually built for the road. Perhaps you could quantify 'huge' better so that recommendations can be more relevant.
I find them huge too... If they are double the volume, they are huge... if I can sit 2 Macs on top of each other and still take up less space than the 1 other laptop, its huge...
Relatively huge. All 15" are about the same height and depth. Probably .25" - .5" thicker. You compare a bunch of 15" and they are all going to have the same height and depth, with thinkness being the difference.
Which brings up the question, when people say huge, do they mean too big for their needs or too big for their taste?
If it is too big for your backpack, then well, more than likelikely, it is due to constraints on the height and depth, not on the thickness. If it is on thickness, that is easy to solve: Don't use padding. 3 year warranty buys you that affordability.
If it is too big for your taste, well, the discussion has gone from "based on observable measures" to "based on individual bias." Which is why I hate shopping with women.
Well Engadget got their hands on a production Envy 13 and they have a review up. Looks like HP botched the trackpad; it's getting some horrible reviews.
I have to say, that's one of the main things that I thought the MB/Ps had as an advantage over other notebooks, it's the well designed and polished multi-touch trackpad. For better or for worse, so far it doesn't look like anyone's even close to replicating it.
The Envy will most likely be the only one close to the MBP in design, and it belive it will run you about $500 cheaper. The tracj pad has had some bad comments, but my MBP track pad works like crap under Windows. But I would hold off and see what other manufacturers will produce here in the next littel while, as more of the new i5 and i7 become availible.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
