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    ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by iaTa, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. euisungkim

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    it's okay, as long as I see how the GPU works before it's released.
    maybe you can download the installer at home and put it in like a USB and install it @ CES? you think it's possible?
     
  2. iaTa

    iaTa Do Not Feed

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    No I don't think I would get away with that TBH. Safer to stick with wireless.
     
  3. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you dont have a usb drive?

    also try 3dmark vantage if you can...

    striker, can you post these test as pre benchmarks of the machine on the first page?
     
  4. Lanaya

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    iAta has a drive, just doesn't think the Asus reps would be too happy about him putting a flash drive in and running installs..
     
  5. iaTa

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    Yeah of course I do but I don't think the Asus reps would like it too much if I was physically plugging something in to one of their laptops. At least with downloading I can keep a relatively low profile.

    That PCMark Vantage Gaming bench is the same as one of the tests in 3DMark Vantage so they should be quite useful in a comparison. We just need someone with a 280M GTX to download PCMark Vantage and run the gaming bench.
     
  6. The_Moo™

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    [​IMG]

    fraps

    ... i couldn't select extreme burning mode :(
     
  7. mentalmike

    mentalmike Notebook Consultant

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    Yea I think they would escort you out of CES if you tried it. :eek:
     
  8. NeRo45

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    HAHA DO IT IATA!!! FOR SCIENCE!!! lmao jk jk
     
  9. Lanaya

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    =] good idea Moo! can we get you to repeat that test exactly iAta?
     
  10. iaTa

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    I didn't run FurMark in benchmark mode.

    Moo if you select Stability Test, tick Xtreme Burning Mode, Full Screen 1080p no AA and monitor FPS in top left.
     
  11. Lanaya

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    I know you didn't =P next time you get a chance tho.
     
  12. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    9 FPS was my MAX after couple mins
     
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    that's a big difference.
     
  14. euisungkim

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    15 FPS was max for g73jh-a1 right? idk anything about furmark stability test so idk
    is 6fps difference big?
     
  15. Lanaya

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    thats 6FPS not 4 =]
     
  16. Vitor711

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    Means the new ati card is definitely a step up from the 280m though - unless I'm analysing this wrong.

    Very nice if true
     
  17. ryzeki

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    well... 66.67% faster :p
     
  18. Mastershakejb

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    iaTa earlier posted the Vantage scores of the G73JH, and wanted a reference point. Here is a reference, of a 260m GTX, but with a considerably slower processor if core i7's boost was enabled, and I'm sure it was.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-mySN-XMG5-Clevo-M860TU-Notebook.17146.0.html
    (Score - 4500) w/considerably slower CPU
    Score of G73JH - 6070
    If you factor in the lower CPU power, I'd say it actually looks kind of neck and neck with a 260m GTX.

    But obviously much lower power consumption and heat production.
     
  19. iaTa

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    What about average - G73 was 15 FPS average over about 3 minutes.

    Just tried my 4670 and average was 7 FPS.
     
  20. iaTa

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    Master I posted the PCMark Vantage Gaming bench results, not the whole suite.
     
  21. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    average is only 8 ;)
     
  22. kurtcocaine

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    iirc, PcMark uses your cpu to render the 3d, so any i7 720qm will have the exact same score...
    none of PcMark's tests even touch the GPU, it only tests the CPU,Ram and

    BTW, here's the official AMD press release for ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5xxx series:
    http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/5000-mob-graphics-2010jan07.aspx
     
  23. Lanaya

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    that score was with a Q9000 which can get 8,000 points+ in vantage. the CPU in the G73's bench only received 8600...at a low resolution. so the CPU they are using isn't being utilized properly. also, the G73 scored 7240 w/ a CPU score of 8600 so the GPU score is probably around 7,300, whereas the GPU score for a GTX260m is ~5000 or less
     
  24. iaTa

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    Really? It was so smooth though, well you can see 44 FPS. And you say that would have been purely CPU - surely not?

    EDIT: It says GPU gaming?

    Ha nice, nearly double the FPS :D

    Moo could you download PCMark Vantage and just run the Gaming bench?
     
  25. The_Moo™

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    lol i can't the download is to big

    I have very very crappy internet ;)
     
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    5870 with highly overclocked core + ram should be very nice provided Asus doesn't neuter the card. Hey Moo, it looks like the M17x refresh is coming pretty soon, they've pulled the configurations entirely from Europe.
     
  27. The_Moo™

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    I know :)

    it will be avaliable in January shipping in late jan early feb ;) IMO *

    I will put the G73 through its test when i recieve it and ALSO will make ALL my Guides since Donald has consented
     
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    What do you asnticipate the refresh being...if you could specuilate
     
  31. Lanaya

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    Dude, they're the same processor, in the G51J-A1 and the G73JH
     
  33. Lanaya

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    sigh. I'm done trying to get through to people in this thread lol. We tested 3Dmark VANTAGE, and with the SAME EXACT TEST, 260m clocked at nvidia reference clocks got 5,000 GPU score. whereas the G73 got a 7300 GPU score. same resolution. the 5870 is GREATLY faster than a 260m.
     
  34. Mastershakejb

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    I've seen 260m GTX score well above 5000 3DMark all over the web, and that's at 1280 x 1024, no gimmicks, unlike the 1376 x 768 or whatever the G73JH test was done at.
     
  35. Lanaya

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    I'm done trying to get through to you, if you have nothing positive to say, stay out of the thread, we have no use for your negativity. When the 5870 arrives, and scores 13,500+ stock 3dmarks, you will be the one shown the truth.
     
  36. iaTa

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    Yeah we need someone to run through those individual tests within the PCMark Gaming bench as we can compare the GPU specific details like FPS.

    I've found something which could help bench 3DMark06 but I need a rapidshare premium account - send me a PM if you have one going spare.
     
  37. David

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    If you flip to the next page of the link you provided, you'll see that the G51J's GPU score is 4135. This is significantly lower than the GPU score in the G73.
     
  38. evensen007

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    I gave up a couple of days ago. Too many new random people coming in and clogging the pipes.
     
  39. Lanaya

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    lol. he just doesn't get that I OWN a GTX260m, and I KNOW WHAT MY OWN SCORES ARE. if he saw one over 5,000 marks, it was overclocked.
     
  40. iaTa

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    Guys lets keep everything on path as this is a great thread :D
     
  41. Lanaya

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    G51J's GPU score is 4135, and the CPU score is out of this world, purely because they had physx enabled (which skews CPU results) the G73 doesn't have an nvidia GPU, thus no physx, and a much much lower CPU score.
     
  42. hirush

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    iaTa, do you mind posting all your findings include 3d mark vantage scores and benchmark wise on first post? It'll be easier for me (and perhaps other people) to follow the current news we have in here. I find myself got thrown out of few 10's of pages in 1 day lag !! xD
     
  43. dondadah88

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    i didn't see that post. unless you are talking about the post from asus when they did the res at 1378*768????
     
  44. euisungkim

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    Does anyone have GTX 280M? I'd like to see the difference between the mobility 5870 and gtx 280m.
     
  45. The_Moo™

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    My 26o with a p8600 hits 5600 ish with the CPU at 3.0

    overclocked 6300


    So I'm lost with what y'all are argueing
     
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    in what? vantage? I'm betting that was with Physx on in nvidia control panel (which as all the m17x benchers will say, skews results) cuz OC'd to 3.1ghz on my p8700 I get 5100@550/950/1375 in vantage@ 1280x1024
     
  48. dondadah88

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    your clocks speeds are low........

    and moo's run is without phsyx on...
     
  49. Lanaya

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    how the hell is that low? its nvidia reference spec, which is what we should be comparing, not an OC'd 260m, because its not really possible to compare an OC'd 260m to a stock 5870..
     
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