ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

have you heard of driver optimizations, on the geforce fx5xxx era?
im done trying to convince you

 

Raclimja, we get it, nVidia are evil..haaaarr.

 

Can someone tell me what this guy is trying to get across? I think Rolly here needs to take a chill pill.

 

Im not quite sure. Something about companies cheating. No idea if he is trying to thread-jack or not.

 

im just trying to say that 3dmark is unreliable source of benchmark and (intel,amd,nvidia) have records of cheating on the said benchmark by using various techniques(driver optimization, offload to cpu, phsycx, dll, etc)

also if you may remember on the geforce fx5xxx, nvidia has gone to extremes on using driver optimizations on games benchmark and it was proven nvidia has cheated

 

I've been using the HP version of the mouse for the past few months and it's a nice mouse.

 

I think it is made by Razor as well.

ASUS reports that their mouse on the ASUS G73JH-A1 and ASUS G51JX-A1 are made by Razor, so I think the HP is just a rebranded Razor.

 

How come the laptop
Asus, G51JX-A1, Intel Quad Core i7-720QM (1.60GHz) , 6GB DDR3 4 SODIMM Sockets, up to 8GB , 500G 7200RPM, NV GTS 360M 1GB GDDR5 VRAM, 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) (G51JX-A1)
is already released in Canada for since last week.
http://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=450395

 

I was able to match the score of my 4870s ([email protected]) with 3870s ([email protected]). lol

 

How does this pertain to the G73 laptop discussion exactly? Any speculation on what the G73 will do in benchmarks is just that, speculation. We all know that manufactures over claim their products for marketing purposes so until it is released we can only guess what it will do vs. the hardware that is out now.

 

Good to hear it, I feared asus was beginning to give lower quality goodies, while in fact, if what you say is true, they even put more effort in the included goods by making razor develop a mouse that actually fits the look of the asus g73jh.

 

Looks contribute towards marketing. Themed, sexy laptops and accessories manage to seduce the average consumer more so than an e-sata and USB 3.0 ports. -_-

ASUS certainly went overkill, effectively so, producing a model that'll flag. First with ATi's flagship graphics card that got us all in the bandwagon ( rightly so, might I add) and now all this stealth design charade. It'll certainly be a blockbuster....can't wait...can't wait....can't wait.....

 

i like specs and and the add ons...with that being said. how do you all like the redesigns on the mouse and bag extras?

Would you like the old or the new versions better?

 

OPEN YOUR EYES, i said
im just trying to say that 3dmark is unreliable source of benchmark


the other guys are arguing with the 3dmark score of a gtx 260m in alienware and asus, what i am trying to say is that 3dmark scores are garbage and unreliable to test/compare the performance of cards to each other,

heck a intel gma series 4 manages to make the same score as ati igp in 3dmark vantage even though the intel gma is a piece of garbage

i suggest you read first before you spam nonesense and without basis

peace

 

Vantage P GPU scores..this is a ballpark estimate for comparison purposes.

260M=4500
280M/4850=5000
4870=6000
5870=7000

Assuming Asus marketing isn't fudging the truth (again) the 5870 is a significant improvement over the 280M.

 

Mate, chill. We got your point. No need for saying the same thing over and over again. Most of the people love just gossiping about possible G73 performance and most of them know how reliable those test benchmarks are. Now goto WC, wash your face and freshen up

 

i dont think so

 

That's close, the 260M gets 4900 and the 280M gets 5200. BTW, the M17x-R2 manual is now online. It supports CPU overclocking and vcore adjustment according to the manual! I posted a link in the AW forum.

 

CPU OC'ing and over-volting. I think the wind got knock out of me a little.

 

Vcore....Lol..... Cannot wait to get back to Alienware when a day comes I can afford it....

 

Yes, Just to make those options work it'll cost $3K.

 

Getting the 920xm would've put my system price >$3500 Hopefully someone on eBay sells a cheap non-ES sample one of these days.

 

doesnt really matters for me cus i am planning to get the razer orochi.. 4000DPI ftw

 

Are those numbers correct? I usualy use notebookcheck to quickly see what gpu is better but there the ati hd4870 is equal to the nvidia gtx260m, which I doubt is correct.

 

They are estimates. I owned the 4850, 4870 and 280M so I know it's close.

 

Is the Mobility 4870 20% better than the 4850? I thought it was like 10% or less...they are almost the same card surely.

 

Oh my god... I have not heard that name uttered in YEARS! hahaha

Your point is spot on though.

 

Originally Posted by jellygood View Post
Mate, chill. We got your point. No need for saying the same thing over and over again. Most of the people love just gossiping about possible G73 performance and most of them know how reliable those test benchmarks are. Now goto WC, wash your face and freshen up

hahahahaha EPIC!

 

Hmmm, this thread got even more interesting after I read through the Flame Warrior roster.

Thanks to Soviet for pointing that link out.

 

I should clarify that the testing for the 4870 was done with a M17x and the 4850 with a Alienware M17. So there is some difference because of that.

 

I like the new add ons. Personally, last years styles were overkill for my liking, might work for a young demographic but not everyone needs the flashy appearances. I like the video of the 2 designers mentioning about user feedback. The bag looks great and IS something I would carry around. So mouse is a Razor? I thought maybe Logitech but I guess I'm wrong. No light show works for me. The entire package is fantastic and I've never been more impressed or compelled to pick one up.

So the unit does have one blue light at the base of the monitor going by the pictures which is cool and I've read you can turn it off if you like.

If I didn't want a more portable 15nch format laptop, I'd sell my VX in a heartbeat and get the G73jh.

 

I just bought Frontlines on ebay factory sealed for 99 cents plus 4 dollars shipping. haha Now that's cheap entertainment. I'm also looking at the other games you listed as well. I got an email from someone that has a group that still plays Battlefield 1942! I can't wait to try that again.

And I will resist the urge to take your statement about buying your girlfriend a G73 as a jab at me. lol

 

UPDATE: ASUS reported today shipments Estimated to come in the 2/10, 2/17 and 3/9. Hopefully everything will come in on time.

 

Justin, that is fantastic news! I really hope those dates hold!

 

I agree hope they hold. They said there is another shipment coming by sea with no confirmed ETA.

 

I'm seriously considering this model. Not only because of the hardware but also because of the subtle design (I'm currently in the ThinkPad crowd).

I have always been turned off by gaming laptops because of the flash. Do you think this new subtle design will become a trend in the mobile gaming world?

 

Let's see what comes first, my M17x or G73.

 

I like both types of designs. Something in the middle like the G73 is very nice.

 

Okay getting my preorder in soon. Thats not too long of a wait and this baby is just too good to pass up. But watch they release a 15" model right after smh

 

Okay as some of you know I was the original poster of the M15x A03 Bios issue and obviously I wanted to part with the system as I did.

Like many of you I to am looking at this ASUS from XoticPC and I have a few questions for you guys.

Do you think it will live up to the hype/specs and not be underclocked and or have poor heating issues?

Also I was wondering if you guys think swaping the 500GB Sata II for (primary drive) for an 80GB Intel SSD would be wise while keeping a 500GB for the secondary.

Thank guys.

 

Personally I would replace the drive myself, because then you have a 500gb notebook drive, just go out and buy a usb/esata enclosure and you have 'technically' a basically free 500gb external drive. But yes, I would replace it with at least an 80gb, pref a 160gb.

Living up to the specs... We all know asus's track record with heat issues, but nobody knows how this design will perform, Iata said it was running pretty cool at CES but who knows.

 

Who will be the NBR first!!?!

 

evensen007 and some others discuss the ssd question in the G73 owner's thread - ~pg 45-48 (estimate). the short answer to what they discussed is yes...but i found the discussion over those pages helpful knowledge wise - unhelpful in that if i pre-order a g73, i'll have to contemplate shelling out another $235!!!

 

Yes I agree replacing the drive to a SSD would be great and probably a significant performance increase. I never owned an ASUS product before bottom line.

I certainly hope this is a full-spec high-performance machine without the cutting of corners. In regards to cooling I have found some interesting and yet funny statements on how the general public distinguishes a cool running system.

Take this for example...

I know these form-factors are called Laptops but by no means should anyone use them on their lap and then go "it is hot and has heating issues". As I and anyone who is more experienced on here clearly knows we are all taking about the internal cooling mechanism of in-taking air and expelling it.

But yes I hope this unit is well made and has the performance on all areas stated, I am ready to pull the trigger on it but hesitate.

 

Maddogg,

I think the G73 will be a solid system. It won't have the build quality of the M15x so just be aware of that ahead of time. The M17x-R2 is also available now in case you're interested.

 

Striker, I have a question. I noticed your configuration and did exactly what you had and came up exactly $ 2730.00 with the same configurations and discount will be 2648.10 the change in price are the value of a cpu, thermalpaste, and intel ssd 160gb. I want to know if your still have to pay your price or they adjusted the price thus u'll be paying the 2730 instead. I noticed like Legacy his is 1637 while if I input the configurations I get 1800 because of the DDR3 that he chose 8gb 1333mhz so I'm confused....and I noticed Iata his price comes up with $ 1595.63 and if I were to come up with it it goes straight to 1843

 

Thanks for the heads up on that bro but I clearly do not want to deal with Alienware and Dell any longer. In fact I was in touch with their Online E-care customer return form manager and well I am really giving them a hard time.
I have yet to replace my system and or get it returned. I called origonally after the post reached all those replies but they made me wait almost half an hour so that is why I decided to write to them instead.

I got told that I would get a call back from 24-48 hrs from the return department and that my concerns were forwarded to the proper people.
As we speak I never did get a call back so I rewrote to that manager again and told him about the references of my post making it to Engadget's site.
I will not stand down unless they really give me something more than just a simple sorry and refund.

Now as for the whole build quality of an Alienware vs the ASUS I didn't find the AW worthwhile in build. I did have keyboard flexing on the right-hand side where the arrow keys were and also felt as if the system was not that well put together hardware wise in terms of performance. I had some strange issues occur with it way before the bios issue ever came.

Anyways enough of me going bla-bla-bla... thanks for your assistance.

 

Dunno about Striker, but as for Legacy i think he was one the people who had pre-ordered when Ken@gentech goofed up and listed the ram as 1333 instead of 1066 for the price of 1066 and afterwards when he realized his mistake he was nice enough to let those people keep the faster ram without paying more i.e. 1333 @1066 price

 

Best you get with your reseller on final pricing. I have changed my configuration..... still undecided..... ergo, I have no final price.

Good luck!

 

Fair enough, that bricking bios problem was definitely a major screw up. Good luck with whatever you get. Right now my 2nd choice after AW would be the G73 and then a Clevo.