ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

It REALLY is this simple....

the price they show is what you pay for what they say you get, if you do not like, it, DO NOT BUY FROM THEM

End of story

 

No, you are not paying the difference, you pay full retail.

 

Yep, and upgrading from 2GB to 4GB through the resellers is roughly the same as upgrading yourself.

You're not going to buy a single 4GB stick to replace, because then you'd be installing 6GB, unless of course you're a moron, in which case go right ahead.

If you want to save money, upgrade yourself, upgrading through the resellers just saves you time and hassle.

 

Agree

Now, lets move on everyone


Alex

 

Might as well just get the bare minimum on your configuration and ride out the warantee and then upgrade yourself. If the thing doesn't blow up in the first 6 months it prob won't anyway. Then you will get to keep your old parts, plus the prices may have dropped on processors and SSD drives in the next year. Win Win situation hehe.

But I would never deal with a company/reseller in the first place if I think i'm really getting bent over a barrel. I'd just shop around for something I like and not stress over it so much, the money is still in your pocket don't forget.

 

Furthermore, some of the best resellers have a good return policy (such as 15 or 30 day period, where the customer only pays to ship it back). Such a policy nearly led me to hop on the preorder bandwagon, but at this point I'm satisfied with waiting it out.

 

Look, from what I understood, the resellers receive the chassis with the base procesor already. So, what would they do with the 720qm if you upgraded?

They would be selling you a 820qm at a (very) discounted price, seeing they would need to order it, and would only charge you a fraction.

They are not deceiving no one. You customize, pay for the aditional features. I would be annoyed if they received the barebone empty, but aparently, they don't.



Also, I need some benchmarks already!!! The wait is killing me...

I've spent the last several months saving for a good work laptop, and now that I have the cash available, I need to wait for it to be released...

I need to know if the hd5870 is compensation enough for carrying a 17"incher around

 

I think what everyone is getting at is you are not getting it at a discounted price. the G73 comes with the i7-720 stock. if you want to upgrade to the i7-820 its $575. If you were looking to just buy an 820 and install it yourself it is also about $575. So basically you are giving them your old processor for installation fee pretty much. so $380 for an processor installation is pretty much what it comes down to.


and as for the HD5870 check out http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26899312&tag=topics;title. I dont know how accurate this list is but its rated as the 5th best performing card out there right now behind the 5970, the GTX295 and dual 4870's

 

Those are desktop GPUs.
We really don't know how "MOBILITY" 5870 performs so we gotta wait until the real-world benchmarks.

 

ahh i would have assumed they would have been fairly similar

 

what ?

if you mean then a 9600m GT then yes by alot

 

but this GPU performs between desktop 5770 and 5750 so you can compare.

 

As it ships stock at 700mhz, it will perform more like the 5750. After we get our hands on it, I intend to see if we can get it to 5770 levels. Either way, both of those cards perform admirably in all the newest games out there.

 

What a fun read of a Tuesday morning. We should rename this thread

"Days of our Laptops"

I think wwoods had a valid point, but didn't pass it across well. He would have been much better off using a HDD swap to SSD example. At least you can USE the spare 500G HDD if you were to obtain it.

I was going to get the upgrade to SSD, but this very point decided me against it. It's not like I need a certified reseller to install an SSD and Win7 for me, and the cost of a 7200RPM HDD is still $150 here in Oz. So I would effectively be paying $450 for a $300 SSD.

And of course resellers can charge what they want. In this case, I decided not to pay their price.

 

I'm surviving days with a desktop (since I'm laptop-less ), it's okay but it's making a sound nearly as loud as a construction site. lol
I really hope this thing comes fast. If cooling system is near alienware then we can probably overclock this lappy and get it up to maybe 9800GX2 levels (that's what I'm hoping )

 

I would not expect 9800gx2 levels out of a single card. At best a gtx 260 at stock clocks (desktop)

 

yeah too much hope I guess
boy I can't wait to test this thing out.

 

Do you have your preorder in yet?

 

I already have a highend laptop, I have no credit and am not made of money lol

I buy my toys cash, and currently am running low

An M11x will be my next buy and only one for a while. I just like giving my opinion/advice when possible

 

Interesting read this time around...
Just want to add that I perfectly understand Wwoods point of view, and I also understand the the resellers side.
It really is not hard to understand both sides if you remain neutral, because once you take sides it all gets distorted...
Perhaps a good practice in the resellers side would be to substract the cost of the stock part to the upgraded part cost and then indicate there will be a surcharge for the upgrade labor and other miscellaneous expenses the upgrade would bring. The reseller has the right and it is entitled to be compensated for their work of course but the customer also should expect a concise itemized cost for the total of the purchased product.
Again, to analyze this situation is necessary to remain neutral, then it is all simple
Rep to wwoods for standing behind a principle and rep to reseller for not ignoring the situation
Peace gang...

 

@scook
If I were to get something that size it would be the Thinkpad x301.

You could always sell the M17x and buy the G73 with that cash.

 

Yes confirmed with Asus, no eSATA and no ExpressCard.

 

I think to alleviate the confusion, the reseller websites should have two configuration options when doing an upgrade:

1. Base fee (e.g. $1000 for a 920xm) where they keep your 720qm but the value added service is "free".

2. Value added fee of $250 (or whatever) + $1000 for the processor but you also get shipped a spare 720qm.

The warranty trap is something I don't like either. Asus should not have those stickers on there. Clevo doesn't nor does Alienware. Furthermore, those stickers are extremely flimsy, I was cleaning out my G51 with compressed air and the force of the air (whcih wasn't even near the sticker) caused it to perforate into pieces effectively rendering my warranty technically null. I ended up selling the G51 at a bigger loss than I normally would have because of it. Frustrated by this, I did contact the Asus customer support person that's on these forums and he told me that the sticker being removed wouldn't necessarily void the warranty but rather serve as a flag for them to check for damage from user tampering. It's up to you whether you would trust Asus on this reasoning or even think it's a good policy (I don't). I think changing out the CPU and adding aftermarket thermal paste would be considered "tampering" by Asus but not necessarily void the warranty on the rest of the system. It still leaves it at their discretion though.

Edit: Here is the PM taken straight from my inbox. Mods, if this violates forum policy in some way, then feel free to edit the post. If it does get edited, then you guys can PM me for the info. instead:

 

And you're sure that's their final, last offer?

Oh well. I'll have to look at another stupid external USB 5.1 card. I think I just threw one out...

Anyone got a recommendation/price on a decent 5.1 system with optical in?

 

in the ces pictures a sticker on the g73 said it could be configured with i5 series cpus, any ideas on when those would be available? Or any info on this? I'd love to get on of these things with some usable battery life.

 

As for the re-seller's upgrading the laptop....

Lets not forget that the re-seller's have labor involved that they are not charging you for the swap out.

Take your base model to a tech and pay the $60 to $100 bucks and hour + the new component and then you can keep your old pieces

 

The thinkpad will be about twice as much for marginal cpu boost and considerable GPU downgrade. And it will not match my M17x lol

And I don't see the G73 being game changing enough for me to justify a switch

 

i was curious about the warrenty sticker, so what do the resellers do? do they get stickers from asus to reapply or does asus just approve the warranty because it ships back from the reseller.

 

They've got stickers from Asus.

 

There is a blackmarket for warranty stickers going around. Some people are starting to counterfeit them and sell them under the table.

 

Yep, take a picture of the Asus sticker, send it to any number of custom perforated sticker makers w/the dimensions and you've got an endless supply. Though Asus really needs to get rid of these altogether.

 

wow this thread just got even more interesting, another stupid question, where are the stickers located? on the case, inside the case? Im also kinda surprised of the lack of a expresscard and esata, so not many options for adding gadgets, only usb what about minipci or other slots inside

 

heh, gateway uses a real sticker which peels off nice and goes back on

annoying asus

 

On the current G series notebooks, the warranty sticker is stuck to one of the screws holding down the CPU or GPU heatsink assembly.

 

Wow this thread is getting really interesting. I remember when i had a g50vt and i tried to check out the gpu and cpu cooler due to overheating and i accidently ripped it off its so fragile, dell, sager, alienware don't care for stickers why can't this premium company well starting to become expect that from people like us. Hey joker how much faith do you have in cooling system and screen?

 

I saw some posts from fellow Australians who were interested in purchasing from http://www.logicalblueone.com.au. I just wanted to point out that http://affordablelaptops.com.au/index1.html also has it for about $250 cheaper but with 2 yr global warranty instead of 3 yrs.

 

Yeah hard to choose between the two as LogicalBlueOne offers a 90 day DOA including 100% perfect pixels whereas AffordableLaptops offer a 7 day DOA which does not include dead/bright pixels.

 

Greetings Whirlpooleans. Imagine meeting you over here. Let's hijack this thread while these guys are all asleep

Don't forget there's the "pool" discount for LBO, so knock $200 off. Without that, Affordable are way the cheapest in Oz atm.

 

Yes but don't forget LBO is $200 more expensive than AffordtableLaptops from the start.

I am still deciding whether to pay upfront with LBO and get the 90 day DOA including no dead/bright pixels or pay later with AffordableLaptops but only get the 7 day DOA excluding dead/bright pixels guarantee. LBO has an extra year warranty too. Decisions decisions!

 

WOW!!! $1k more there for stock, and $700 more just to upgrade to 820qm, holy crikey!!

 

a fellow NBR member has the dealio on that stuff!

and with that upgrade grief going on...it's up to the seller how much they charge. where does it say that they should "give you" the CPU? you are automatically assuming that since they charge the full retail for the UPGRADE, you should receive the CPU? It's up to them if they give it or not, and what price it costs. Obviously all (if there is a certified reseller who doesn't, please let me know) do the same practice...

For example...in batteries. On a typical Dell laptop...in the batteries upgrade section it will most likely give you these choices (prices are random)

• 6-Cell Battery (Included)
• 9-Cell Battery (+$150)
• 6-Cell + 9-Cell Battery (+$200)

So...in all these retailers, do you guys see a [ +] sign that makes you think you should be getting both? I understand the price is high, since it's an upgrade but it's up to them to choose how much they charge for it. They buy the CPUs retail most likely at those prices, and if Quadzilla's point was right about them needing to keep it...it is totally justifiable to upgrade at the prices they have listed.

 

sux to be us.

 

Dont even think it , most of the people here haven't slept since CES , or at least haven't slept good

 

For all you Canadians out there I present you the G73JH-A1:
http://www.comtec.ca/Notebooks-2/As...z-Quad-Core)8g-Ddr3Ati-5870-1g-Gddr5-G73JH-A1

@ $1777.39 CAN that deserves a HOLYHELL BATMAN!

 

Great price for what your getting eh?

 

Only $200 more than what I payed for my G51J-A1, but it's ok I have BSOD's to show off.

 

Hey $100 less than what I payed for my G51VX! But I have amazing side lights and .. um it doesn't.

 

I just emailed affordable laptops and even though its not currently on their website, you can remove the blu-ray drive and get a DVD drive instead, which is perfect for me and will save me $100. I reckon ill get it from affordable laptops because i really dont want to spend more than $2300

 

Although I live in Australia, I have just preordered from GenTech PC. Here are the specs:

Optical Drive: 4X Blu-Ray Read/DVDRW Optical Drive
External USB HD: None
Bluetooth: Built-in Bluetooth™ V2.0+EDR
WiFi: 802.11 Wireless a/b/g/n
Gaming Mouse: Included
Backpack: Included
Windows Recovery Disk and Drivers CD: Inclueded
30days Zero Bright Dot Guaranteed: Yes through Asus
Packaging: Shipping with Double Box
Warranty: Asus 2 Year Limited Global Warranty
Asus Support & Service: 24/7 Toll-Free, Both Way Next Day Air Shipping
24/7 Support hotline: 1-888-678-3688 (except holidays)
Accidental Damage Warranty: http://adw.asus.com/content/adp/default.aspx
Webcam: Built-in 2.0 MP Webcam
Availability: Pre-Order,
Additional Battery: No Additional Battery
I would like to receive future promotions.
Hard Drive RAID Configuration: RAID-0 Striped Enabled, Dual Hard Drives Required
Car Adapter: None
Thermal Compound: Stock OEM Thermal Compound
CPU: i7-820QM, 1.73~3.06GHz, 2.5 GT/s 45nm, 8MB, 45W
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit System Recovery DVD
AC Adapter and Battery: Included
Screen: 17.3 inch 16:9 1920x1080 FHD LED glossy
Secondary Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm SATA II
Primary Hard Drive: 80GB G2 Intel X25-M Multi-Cell SSD Serial-ATA II
Dead Pixel Warranty: Standard Manufacturer Dead Pixel Warranty
Additional AC Adapter: No Additional AC Adapter
GPU: ATI HD5870 1GB GDDR5, DX11
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1066 (2G X 4)

 

CONGRATZ! Welcome to the party Crew Member!